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lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
April 07 2017 04:08 GMT
#145841
It's from 27. March though. Don't know why StealthBlue posted now?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4433 Posts
April 07 2017 04:08 GMT
#145842
On April 07 2017 12:38 plasmidghost wrote:
Well, I'll always remember where I was when the US inadvertently started World War III

The crazy thing is April 6, 1917 is when the US officially entered WW1.Exactly 100 years.

Facebook comments on the Syria situation on Trumps page are at least heartening.Nobody is buying this anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24156 Posts
April 07 2017 04:13 GMT
#145843
Well it's missing a key part that slightly changes the dynamic.

The Syrian leadership has sent messages to Israel warning that any further strikes by the IDF on targets within Syria’s borders would be met with Scud rockets fired deep into the Jewish state, the Lebanese newspaper Al-Diyar reported Saturday.


Source

They were talking about Israel, but not sure it being the US really makes any material difference.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 07 2017 04:19 GMT
#145844
On April 07 2017 13:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Well it's missing a key part that slightly changes the dynamic.

Show nested quote +
The Syrian leadership has sent messages to Israel warning that any further strikes by the IDF on targets within Syria’s borders would be met with Scud rockets fired deep into the Jewish state, the Lebanese newspaper Al-Diyar reported Saturday.


Source

They were talking about Israel, but not sure it being the US really makes any material difference.

ya, Israel has been bombing targets in Syria yet not much of an outcry about it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 07 2017 04:20 GMT
#145845
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 04:28 GMT
#145846
So, first Trump externally-generated crisis. How well did he do? Fuck if I can tell.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
April 07 2017 04:29 GMT
#145847
On April 07 2017 13:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/850184294786117632

5D chess. Assad now has to change his policy and also keep it the same. That puts him off balance, giving Trump the upper hand to swoop in and scoop up that prime golf course real estate.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 04:54:08
April 07 2017 04:35 GMT
#145848
On April 07 2017 13:29 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 13:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/850184294786117632

5D chess. Assad now has to change his policy and also keep it the same. That puts him off balance, giving Trump the upper hand to swoop in and scoop up that prime golf course real estate.

Come on, in a non-sarcastic manner: they're clearly just trying to beat Assad up just enough so he toes the line when it comes to abusing his own people, yet won't push for regime change. It is actually a reasonably sensible position considering the circumstances. Whether it will successful or was properly executed is another matter.

I just can't comprehend what Assad is thinking when it comes to using chemical weapons against his own people. Is he really just testing what the US would do? What the hell?
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 04:40:01
April 07 2017 04:39 GMT
#145849
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 07 2017 04:41 GMT
#145850
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 04:50 GMT
#145851
On April 07 2017 13:39 plasmidghost wrote:
I believe Trump did make the right decision, however, Syria could retaliate at any time, especially since Assad is crazy enough to use nerve agents on his own civilians

I mean, at first glance it looks like a reasonable decision made in a proportional manner. But it's brazen and in the aftermath, you would be right to ask, should we really have done this? The potential for all this to blow up in unforeseen ways was probably underappreciated by whoever proposed this move (probably Mattis).
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 07 2017 04:50 GMT
#145852
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 07 2017 04:51 GMT
#145853
On April 07 2017 13:41 plasmidghost wrote:
God fucking damn it, this is not good

Are we really surprised? Airstrikes generally kill people.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 04:52 GMT
#145854
Only answer is that we don't know. That's what happens when you strike right away in the spur-of-the-moment: you deal with incomplete facts.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 07 2017 04:55 GMT
#145855
On April 07 2017 13:50 plasmidghost wrote:
Something's not right here, we know the base had Russian personnel there since we had to warn them, yet we also claim that the chemical weapons were launched from there, meaning that either Russia knowingly allowed chemical weapons to be used on Syrian civilians or the chemical weapons did not, in fact, come from there. Which is it?

or maybe, just maybe the Assad regime didn't actually attack his own civilians when he has his hands busy with other issues?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
April 07 2017 04:57 GMT
#145856
On April 07 2017 13:55 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 13:50 plasmidghost wrote:
Something's not right here, we know the base had Russian personnel there since we had to warn them, yet we also claim that the chemical weapons were launched from there, meaning that either Russia knowingly allowed chemical weapons to be used on Syrian civilians or the chemical weapons did not, in fact, come from there. Which is it?

or maybe, just maybe the Assad regime didn't actually attack his own civilians when he has his hands busy with other issues?


Possibly, but I wouldn't put anything past Russia either. Almost like we should have had a chit chat about this as an international community before just popping off like a kid.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 07 2017 04:57 GMT
#145857
On April 07 2017 13:55 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 13:50 plasmidghost wrote:
Something's not right here, we know the base had Russian personnel there since we had to warn them, yet we also claim that the chemical weapons were launched from there, meaning that either Russia knowingly allowed chemical weapons to be used on Syrian civilians or the chemical weapons did not, in fact, come from there. Which is it?

or maybe, just maybe the Assad regime didn't actually attack his own civilians when he has his hands busy with other issues?


You're saying Assad is too busy to launch an attack..?
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 07 2017 04:57 GMT
#145858
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 04:58 GMT
#145859
This is one of the reasons you don't just go unilaterally bombing and killing people out of some pretense of stopping chemical weapons - before you actually figure out what happened. And go all pissy about "if u guyz aint up 4 it we do this ourselves" which should remind us all of a certain other conflict.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11586 Posts
April 07 2017 05:00 GMT
#145860
On April 07 2017 13:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:38 plasmidghost wrote:
Well, I'll always remember where I was when the US inadvertently started World War III

The crazy thing is April 6, 1917 is when the US officially entered WW1.Exactly 100 years.

Facebook comments on the Syria situation on Trumps page are at least heartening.Nobody is buying this anymore.

I was actually talking about something like this to a fellow social studies teacher, or rather that both the 20th Century and the 19th Century with massive wars (the Napoleonic wars being the next 'best' thing to a world war) will we go down the same path again? Or does Pax Americana still stand? (You gas your people, we blow up your airbase/ world police?)
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