• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:20
CEST 22:20
KST 05:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy2[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10039 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7292

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7290 7291 7292 7293 7294 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 03:13 GMT
#145821
On April 07 2017 12:08 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 11:35 LegalLord wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:33 BigFan wrote:
The fact that no one sees why this is problematic and outright stupid to do is troubling. On that note, I also wish the US would stop intervening in middle eastern affairs whenever they want.

Was stupid but we were expecting a war. Maybe we'll get one.

So, you're ok with people on either sides dying because we expected a war? Wars aren't fun. Sorry but this is a poor mentality.

Gave my thoughts earlier. "I'm glad the response wasn't worse, but was that really a good idea?" But it could have escalated a lot worse right now in ways that would be doubleplusungood.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 03:21:52
April 07 2017 03:20 GMT
#145822


Record Scratch.



Also, some vintage stuff right here.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
April 07 2017 03:21 GMT
#145823
On April 07 2017 12:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:02 lastpuritan wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:49 Plansix wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:46 lastpuritan wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:36 zlefin wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:34 lastpuritan wrote:
Well, no matter we like it or not. He had courage to do it while Obama and whole world stood idly for years. Now Assad will think twice before targeting civilians, this little-something is what we couldn't achieve by previous administration for years and years. It's still a GOOD JOB.

more like a mixed bag. courage and stupidity can overlap a lot. to act without congressional approval/consent in waging war upon a country.
also, this isn't about targetting civilians, it's about the use of chemical weapons specifically (at least ostensibly).


But Trump said he was shocked by civilian deaths and changed his views on Assad because images of dead children hurt him deeply.

Not saying Assad won't be killing civilians in the future, but he'll probably reconsider his plan to terminate all the population opposes him.

-

Congress would approve it anyways, why lose time when you can strike fast and send a strong message.

Or Trump lied and launched missiles to seem stronger than Obama, doesn't give a shit about kids and just wanted to look tough.

They didn't strike that fast. They warned Russia, Assad's ally, and the base was free of staff when it was hit. They literally called ahead before sending the missiles.

And if it was going to be approved anyways, not reason to deprive the American people of the public discussion.


Why would you go into a public discussion if you already gave the president that power, I wonder.

I see nothing wrong with his desire to look stronger, some media keeps portraying him as a weak president vs Putin and a betrayer. Regarding his character, it's pretty normal for a guy like him to try get his reputation back.

The goal of the strike was not killing SA soldiers, but destroying one of their airfields. And warning Russians is a good sign to keep neutral relations with Russia.

You would be cursing Trump if he killed Russians inside that base and praising Obama for sending a great message without killing anyone.



I calling Trump on the bullshit excuse that he was moved by photos of dead kids. He wants to ban those same kids from coming here for safety.

I have few problems with the strikes, Assad has been a nightmare for the world for to long. More nations should stand up to him. I have a problem with how Trump went about it. How he didn't seek congressional approval. How this is going to be played up a him being strong on Assad, when they called ahead first to make sure the Russians and Syrian government had time to remove anything worth hitting. There are 5 more airstrips in Syria.

This shows all the signs of someone who wants to do the bare minimum possible, and then be praised.


In response to some of your thoughts.







Apparently they couldn't move worthy stuff out. I still think losing time would grant them the opportunity.


Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 07 2017 03:27 GMT
#145824
There is no reason to believe that we couldn't have destroy the exact same number of planes after a debate. We have a pretty advanced military last time I checked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 07 2017 03:31 GMT
#145825
On April 07 2017 12:27 Plansix wrote:
There is no reason to believe that we couldn't have destroy the exact same number of planes after a debate. We have a pretty advanced military last time I checked.

I don't believe our congress is sufficiently advanced enough to hold votes that require any level of debate at all at the moment, however.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 07 2017 03:32 GMT
#145826
On April 07 2017 08:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I'm sorry but can this bitch please just disappear? Hitchens was right about her she has to be in the spotlight as it's her therapy to believe she is always relevant somehow.


She ain't disappearing yet!



Guys, guys--she understand why she wasn't elected. Bernie Sanders. Then emails and some other stuff. Unironic use of "weaponization of information." It's just rich.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 07 2017 03:35 GMT
#145827
On April 07 2017 12:31 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:27 Plansix wrote:
There is no reason to believe that we couldn't have destroy the exact same number of planes after a debate. We have a pretty advanced military last time I checked.

I don't believe our congress is sufficiently advanced enough to hold votes that require any level of debate at all at the moment, however.

You are not wrong on that front. But I'm not pumped about ceding more power to the executive branch to make up for their short comings.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 07 2017 03:37 GMT
#145828
On April 07 2017 12:13 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:08 BigFan wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:35 LegalLord wrote:
On April 07 2017 11:33 BigFan wrote:
The fact that no one sees why this is problematic and outright stupid to do is troubling. On that note, I also wish the US would stop intervening in middle eastern affairs whenever they want.

Was stupid but we were expecting a war. Maybe we'll get one.

So, you're ok with people on either sides dying because we expected a war? Wars aren't fun. Sorry but this is a poor mentality.

Gave my thoughts earlier. "I'm glad the response wasn't worse, but was that really a good idea?" But it could have escalated a lot worse right now in ways that would be doubleplusungood.

oh ok, must've missed it then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 07 2017 03:37 GMT
#145829
On April 07 2017 12:31 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:27 Plansix wrote:
There is no reason to believe that we couldn't have destroy the exact same number of planes after a debate. We have a pretty advanced military last time I checked.

I don't believe our congress is sufficiently advanced enough to hold votes that require any level of debate at all at the moment, however.

How about we raise 56b so we can update out outdated congress?
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 03:42:04
April 07 2017 03:38 GMT
#145830
--- Nuked ---
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 03:46:49
April 07 2017 03:45 GMT
#145831
The way I feel about the situation we're in right now is that Asshole A threw a tomato at Tough Guy T, then Tough Guy T decided to smack Asshole A in the face, and now all the schoolchildren around them with little to no judgment formed a crowd and are screaming "Fight! Fight! Fight!" And it'll probably end the same way.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 03:48:43
April 07 2017 03:48 GMT
#145832
On April 07 2017 12:45 LegalLord wrote:
The way I feel about the situation we're in right now is that Asshole A threw a tomato at Tough Guy T, then Tough Guy T decided to smack Asshole A in the face, and now all the schoolchildren around them with little to no judgment are screaming "Fight! Fight! Fight!" And it'll probably end the same way.

Who's Tough Guy T, the US? Since when did Asshole A throw a tomato? Did I miss something? This was all Tough Guy T acting on his own just to show that he's tough, just like this Tough Guy T talked about Hong Kong and China's involvement within the first couple weeks of presidency because he wanted to "send a message".
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 03:51:53
April 07 2017 03:49 GMT
#145833
Tough Guy T is Trump. Hence, T. A is Assad, the schoolchildren are our FP commentators like John Rambo McCain, Micro Rubio, and Hillary Clinton.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
April 07 2017 03:50 GMT
#145834
Schumer and Pelosi just want Trump to come back and ask congress for authorization for more attacks, but they want more attacks worse than he does, or at least Hillary does.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 07 2017 03:50 GMT
#145835
On April 07 2017 12:20 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/850178642982338560

Record Scratch.

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/375071259643879425

Also, some vintage stuff right here.


Guess it might just be a shot across the bow for chemical weapons only.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 04:00:37
April 07 2017 03:59 GMT
#145836
So yeah...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 07 2017 04:00 GMT
#145837
On April 07 2017 12:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking/status/846113842602168321

And this is how world war III starts...
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 07 2017 04:03 GMT
#145838
--- Nuked ---
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 04:05 GMT
#145839
On April 07 2017 13:03 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 12:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So yeah...

https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking/status/846113842602168321

Is there any legit source on this? How trustworthy is this account?

The threat is accurate. Don't know about the account.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 07 2017 04:06 GMT
#145840
--- Nuked ---
Prev 1 7290 7291 7292 7293 7294 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
S23 - Announcement Showmatch
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
ZZZero.O215
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 558
ProTech137
-ZergGirl 67
JuggernautJason11
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 537
ZZZero.O 215
Dewaltoss 112
Trap 48
soO 17
zelot 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever158
febbydoto5
League of Legends
Doublelift2052
JimRising 108
Counter-Strike
fl0m859
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu665
Khaldor320
Other Games
Grubby3703
FrodaN2847
Liquid`RaSZi2372
B2W.Neo701
XaKoH 173
ArmadaUGS143
Pyrionflax137
KnowMe136
ZombieGrub74
Railgan27
CosmosSc2 25
summit1g0
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile123
• Reevou 8
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3702
League of Legends
• Shiphtur240
Other Games
• imaqtpie796
• Scarra576
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 40m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 40m
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
14h 40m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 40m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
Light vs EffOrt
OSC
1d 15h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
GSL
6 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.