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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On March 03 2017 02:54 Acrofales wrote: Or maybe it's Ben Ghazi'ing. Or does that strike too close to home? I know you're trolling given that you've been trolling for a while now, but yes, you could call it another Benghazi-like probe, yes. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On March 03 2017 02:58 farvacola wrote: It's nice to see someone who admittedly voted for Trump indicate that they too recognize LL's shilling, as some here are all too willing to let him add his RT 2-cents to their crusade against "the regressive left." Did you read the shit he posted on 688/689 of euro thread? EDIT: have a link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/471672-european-politico-economics-qa-mega-thread?page=688 not giving a tldr because that discussion deserves to be read in its entirety | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 02:58 LegalLord wrote: I know you're trolling given that you've been trolling for a while now, but yes, you could call it another Benghazi-like probe, yes. Man, wouldn't that be terrible. Subjecting the Republicans to the same level of bullshit that they pulled on the Democrats. Darn. What a terrible thing. We should all play nice and get along. That worked so well from 2000-2008. Great stuff happened back then. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Did you read the shit he posted on 688/689 of euro thread? Several of us have been calling out Aarron Burr on this RT fan-boyness for a while now. Though I might have to amend my claims that LL is the threads Arron Burr. He is more of a Benedict Arnold. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 03 2017 02:33 Danglars wrote: Skepticism at WaPo. No fucking shit they are overplaying their hand. This is #fakenews in action for all of the reasons that I detailed last night. And the insidious effect of it is obvious for all to see. People are reading the first 2-3 paragraphs of that shitty WashPo article and presuming that there's a huge problem without really digging into the rest of the article where the shortcomings of the narrative become brutally apparent. And don't for a moment think that the timing of this article wasn't deliberate. This #fakenews narrative was launched precisely to derail Trump's momentum from his speech on Tuesday. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:01 Plansix wrote: Man, wouldn't that be terrible. Subjecting the Republicans to the same level of bullshit that they pulled on the Democrats. Darn. What a terrible thing. We should all play nice and get along. That worked so well from 2000-2008. Great stuff happened back then. I'm ok with seeing this as a "what goes around comes around" especially considering that I don't particularly care for Sessions or Republicans in general. Sure, I would have wanted Democrats to show a moral high ground on any such issues of partisanship but that's not the world we live in - so "karma, bitch" is a close second. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:04 LegalLord wrote: I'm ok with seeing this as a "what goes around comes around" especially considering that I don't particularly care for Sessions or Republicans in general. Sure, I would have wanted Democrats to show a moral high ground on any such issues of partisanship but that's not the world we live in - so "karma, bitch" is a close second. Moral high ground. LOL. You know what the high ground gets you? A good view of how badly you are getting screwed over by people that are down in the dirt. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21691 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:03 xDaunt wrote: No fucking shit they are overplaying their hand. This is #fakenews in action for all of the reasons that I detailed last night. And the insidious effect of it is obvious for all to see. People are reading the first 2-3 paragraphs of that shitty WashPo article and presuming that there's a huge problem without really digging into the rest of the article where the shortcomings of the narrative become brutally apparent. And don't for a moment think that the timing of this article wasn't deliberate. This #fakenews narrative was launched precisely to derail Trump's momentum from his speech on Tuesday. Ofcourse its timed. But the Democrats didn't make Sessions have a 1 on 1 with the Russian ambassador, nor did they make him withhold it during his hearing. keep on hashtagging mate. I'm sure it will convince exactly 0 people. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:03 xDaunt wrote: No fucking shit they are overplaying their hand. This is #fakenews in action for all of the reasons that I detailed last night. And the insidious effect of it is obvious for all to see. People are reading the first 2-3 paragraphs of that shitty WashPo article and presuming that there's a huge problem without really digging into the rest of the article where the shortcomings of the narrative become brutally apparent. And don't for a moment think that the timing of this article wasn't deliberate. This #fakenews narrative was launched precisely to derail Trump's momentum from his speech on Tuesday. As I have tried to make clear, possibly unsuccessfully, I liked Trump, particularly on immigration. I voted for Trump. I am disgusted by lawmakers on both sides trying to score political points now when our country is facing one of the most severe crises in its history. Trump's Russia ties are of serious concern. Carter Page. Paul Manafort. Gen Flynn. Jeff Sessions. When the hell does this end? How deep does it go? Why is Trump so friendly towards Putin? What kind of kompromat does Putin have on Trump? Why is Trump, someone who doesn't shy from confrontation, unwilling to confront a Kremlin that refers to USA as its "Main Adversary" once again? (for you lefties, Putin would have had all illegal business conducted via Clinton's email server to blackmail her with, at minimum. Clinton sucks just as hard here.) | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:07 Plansix wrote: Moral high ground. LOL. You know what the high ground gets you? A good view of how badly you are getting screwed over by people that are down in the dirt. Fair enough. In that case keep 'em coming. Play the Republicans' game and see how far it gets you. I'll grab the popcorn, we finally brought fun to politics. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:07 Gorsameth wrote: Ofcourse its timed. But the Democrats didn't make Sessions have a 1 on 1 with the Russian ambassador, nor did they make him withhold it during his hearing. keep on hashtagging mate. I'm sure it will convince exactly 0 people. I don’t know why Xdaunt is shocked that the press isn’t pulling any punches when it comes to Trump. He has been openly advocating to limit their ability to do their job from day one. Want to 100% make sure you will get ravaged by the press? Attack them. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:11 LegalLord wrote: Fair enough. In that case keep 'em coming. Play the Republicans' game and see how far it gets you. I'll grab the popcorn, we finally brought fun to politics. It got them control of both houses of congress for at least 8 years. And the white house. Seems like a winning plan to me. | ||
KwarK
United States42716 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:03 xDaunt wrote: No fucking shit they are overplaying their hand. This is #fakenews in action for all of the reasons that I detailed last night. And the insidious effect of it is obvious for all to see. People are reading the first 2-3 paragraphs of that shitty WashPo article and presuming that there's a huge problem without really digging into the rest of the article where the shortcomings of the narrative become brutally apparent. And don't for a moment think that the timing of this article wasn't deliberate. This #fakenews narrative was launched precisely to derail Trump's momentum from his speech on Tuesday. 1) Sessions, part of the Trump election campaign, chose to have a private meeting with Russian intelligence. 2) Russian intelligence chose to actively intervene in the US election to favour the Trump campaign. 3) The Trump administration then sacrificed American geopolitical interests to offer concessions to Russia. 4) Sessions stated "I did not have communications with the Russians", a statement which can be demonstrated not to be true by the fact that he held a private meeting with Russian intelligence. Those four are established facts. I know you struggle a lot with facts these days but not all of us are suffering from that particular handicap. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:11 TheLordofAwesome wrote: As I have tried to make clear, possibly unsuccessfully, I liked Trump, particularly on immigration. I voted for Trump. I am disgusted by lawmakers on both sides trying to score political points now when our country is facing one of the most severe crises in its history. Trump's Russia ties are of serious concern. Carter Page. Paul Manafort. Gen Flynn. Jeff Sessions. When the hell does this end? How deep does it go? Why is Trump so friendly towards Putin? What kind of kompromat does Putin have on Trump? Why is Trump, someone who doesn't shy from confrontation, unwilling to confront a Kremlin that refers to USA as its "Main Adversary" once again? (for you lefties, Putin would have had all illegal business conducted via Clinton's email server to blackmail her with, at minimum. Clinton sucks just as hard here.) Here's the only question that should concern you at this time: what has Trump actually done (not said) to change Russian/American relations? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:03 xDaunt wrote: No fucking shit they are overplaying their hand. This is #fakenews in action for all of the reasons that I detailed last night. And the insidious effect of it is obvious for all to see. People are reading the first 2-3 paragraphs of that shitty WashPo article and presuming that there's a huge problem without really digging into the rest of the article where the shortcomings of the narrative become brutally apparent. And don't for a moment think that the timing of this article wasn't deliberate. This #fakenews narrative was launched precisely to derail Trump's momentum from his speech on Tuesday. Idk how much of it is "fakenews" if Fox is starting to report on it as well... (which idk why you hashtagged, trying to let your Russian friends find the thread?) http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/02/sessions-russian-ambassador-spoke-twice-during-presidential-campaign.html I mean, your own party is reporting on Sessions talking to Russians... which we all know that either fellow Trumpians don't mind becoming Russia 2.0 or just don't care at all, but I mean, when Fox calls it out, shouldn't that be a sign? Since they're "real news" | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:16 xDaunt wrote: Here's the only question that should concern you at this time: what has Trump actually done (not said) to change Russian/American relations? Why would we be stupid enough to wait until after he fucks things up? That is a terrible plan. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:14 KwarK wrote: 1) Sessions, part of the Trump election campaign chose to have a private meeting with Russian intelligence. 2) Russian intelligence chose to actively intervene in the US election to favour the Trump campaign. 3) The Trump administration then sacrificed American geopolitical interests to offer concessions to Russia. 4) Sessions stated "I did not have communications with the Russians", a statement which can be demonstrated not to be true by the fact that he held a private meeting with Russian intelligence. Those four are established facts. I know you struggle a lot with facts these days but not all of us are suffering from that particular handicap. I find your snarkiness seriously irritating. If you want to change someone's mind, this is no way to do it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 03 2017 03:11 TheLordofAwesome wrote: (for you lefties, Putin would have had all illegal business conducted via Clinton's email server to blackmail her with, at minimum. Clinton sucks just as hard here.) Very few people would deny that, but as I've said before, Clinton is not our president. Trump is our president. And I care very little about holding him to the standard of a disgraced presidential loser. | ||
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