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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 10 2013 00:25 GMT
#13981
I got 83% green party, 75% democrat, 72% socialist, 36% libertarian and 1% republican
awesome

to be fair I didn't really have much of an opinion on many of the domestic issues and kinda just went with the answer that sounded more like the opinion I would be likely to hold if I was american and researched the issues;)
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 01:15:10
December 10 2013 00:57 GMT
#13982
Interesting site, got 92% on Greens, 92% Democrats, 77% socialists,44% libertarians, and astonishing 11% for the GOP.

Question:"Do you believe in the theory of Evolution?"
Republicans: "no"

Question:"Is Global Warming a threat to the environment?"
Republicans: "no"

Question :Every Question
Libertarians: The private sector is flippin' awesome!

What is going on

Edit: I guess that will be pretty representative for most non American-Westerners :o
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18831 Posts
December 10 2013 01:19 GMT
#13983
86% Democrat, 80% Socialist, 78% Green Party, 17% Libertarian, 2% Republican.

Sounds good to me, but I needed more complex answers. This one was far better than most though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 10 2013 01:19 GMT
#13984
On December 10 2013 08:45 darthfoley wrote:
For anyone interested in their political affiliation: www.isidewith.com

The wide ranging choices for each issue really help create an accurate identification. It takes probably 15 minutes if you're thorough in your answers.

Strange as all such polls. 84% with Greens and Democrats, 72% Socialists, 53% Libertarians, 7% Republicans Me, half-libertarian, who knew

Frankly I doubt I would agree even in 25% of issues with Democrats in reality.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
December 10 2013 01:20 GMT
#13985
89% Democrats/83% Green/75% Socialist/20% Libertarian/7% Republican

This is pretty much what I expected. Basically I would be green if I were a more "pie in the sky" liberal but every time my mouse hovers over the absolute ideal I snap myself back to reality.

One of the choices in the drilling question was to nationalize the energy sector. That's the sort of thing I always wonder if it could work but don't think, even with a lifetime of study, I could ever be qualified to make a decision on. Sort of reminds me of the most recent sim city (before the expansion). The best possible city had zero taxes and all the best possible services payed for by the exports of the state owned tech industry.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18831 Posts
December 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#13986
We should most definitely nationalize the energy sector comrade.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 10 2013 01:25 GMT
#13987
On December 10 2013 10:20 Velocirapture wrote:
89% Democrats/83% Green/75% Socialist/20% Libertarian/7% Republican

This is pretty much what I expected. Basically I would be green if I were a more "pie in the sky" liberal but every time my mouse hovers over the absolute ideal I snap myself back to reality.

One of the choices in the drilling question was to nationalize the energy sector. That's the sort of thing I always wonder if it could work but don't think, even with a lifetime of study, I could ever be qualified to make a decision on. Sort of reminds me of the most recent sim city (before the expansion). The best possible city had zero taxes and all the best possible services payed for by the exports of the state owned tech industry.

I would say not worth it in normal circumstances, market with heavy regulation can work reasonably well in this area. In case of some social or other calamity it might be a good move, but that depends on the scenario.
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 02:05:14
December 10 2013 01:54 GMT
#13988
On December 10 2013 10:19 farvacola wrote:
86% Democrat, 80% Socialist, 78% Green Party, 17% Libertarian, 2% Republican.

Sounds good to me, but I needed more complex answers. This one was far better than most though.

Yeah, it was annoyingly binary. You can pick "other" but... bleh.

74%D, 71%G, 63%R, 61%S 39%L for me.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
December 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#13989
76% R, 67% G, 67% D, 56% S, 54% L.

Pretty weird to sort of agree with everyone, but I didn't parse out my opinion by importance or do the additional questions.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 10 2013 02:32 GMT
#13990
Hmm I did this in extreme detail picking everything very carefully, and:

Democrat 73%
Green Party 53%
Socialist 34%
Libertarians 19%
Republicans 19%

Sounds pretty accurate from what I'd expect from myself, and as a Canadian. Although it's kind of stupid. Even though economically it says I agree with Democrats the most, I still disagree with them on: Farm Subsidies, Minimum wage, Welfare, Pension Reform, and Wall Street Accountability.... Actually I disagree with a lot from every party.

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I think that agrees with the general view on teamliquid anyway.
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CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 03:43:18
December 10 2013 03:41 GMT
#13991
I think the above chart is woefully out of date. What part of the Republican (or Democratic) agenda involves rolling back the national security state? The national security state (NSA, CIA, military, contractor, DHS) is a bi-partisan authoritarian project. Yet I see Democrats way down on the authoritarian section with Republicans way up in the middle. What is that? Republicans approve the national security state a little more than Democrats (if the Bush years count for anything). There should not be that wide of an "authoritarian" gap between the two parties when there is such agreement on such a core "authoritarian" issue.

Furthermore, are any of the actual socialist parties (they exist) in the USA are actually advocating more national security state? As the highest scorers in "authoritarian" you would think that the socialist parties would be advocating more national security state, but they aren't.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 10 2013 04:15 GMT
#13992
it's interesting they don't see 'legislating equality' as a subset of 'legislating morality'; for surely equality has moral underpinnings to it?
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
December 10 2013 04:35 GMT
#13993
On December 10 2013 13:15 Roe wrote:
it's interesting they don't see 'legislating equality' as a subset of 'legislating morality'; for surely equality has moral underpinnings to it?

Equality in this sense means the ability to choose a moral position for the self, where legislating morality basically means imposing a specific morality (aka protestant values).
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 04:52:22
December 10 2013 04:50 GMT
#13994
interesting site- Some of the questions had unsatisfactory answers, however.

R: 79%
Libertarians: 55%
Dems: 18%
Green 3%
Socialist 1%

"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 04:57:24
December 10 2013 04:56 GMT
#13995
Democrats: 85%
Socialists: 80%
Green Party: 77%
Libertarians: 17%
Republicans: 1%

Almost exactly mirrors farv.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 10 2013 05:09 GMT
#13996
R: 75%
L: 63%
D: 24%
S: 11%
G: 8%

I'm not sure why the socialist and green party numbers are so "high."
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
December 10 2013 05:36 GMT
#13997
Green: 60%
Socialist: 60%
Republicans: 54%
Democrats: 53%
Libertarians: 51%

Guess I'm a centrist, but I voted based on the fact that senior citizens will rebel if I took away their Medicare/SS.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 10 2013 06:29 GMT
#13998
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans blocked a batch of mostly minor nominations by President Barack Obama late Monday in the aftermath of last month's Democratic move weakening the minority party's traditional ability to block most presidential appointments.

The action demonstrated that the GOP was intent on exacting a price for the changes majority Democrats muscled through the Senate in filibusters, or procedural delays minority senators can use to delay or kill nominations or bills.

Monday's confrontation came as the Senate returned to work for the first time since Democrats made those changes on Nov. 21.

That Democratic moved had angered Republicans, both because it weakened the GOP's ability to wage filibusters and because Democrats made the change with a simple majority of votes. Republicans said Democrats should have been required to win a two-thirds majority to make the change, which is more commonly used to make major rules changes.

On Monday, Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., objected to a request by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., for unanimous approval of more than 30 mostly minor appointees.

"Until I understand better how a United States senator is supposed to operate in a Senate without rules, I object," Alexander said.


Source
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 06:41:40
December 10 2013 06:41 GMT
#13999
Democrat: 74
Green: 63
Libertarian: 62
Socialist: 60
Republican: 41

so pretty centrist.


also: haha xdaunt is 24% democrat!
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
TheZanthex
Profile Joined January 2012
United States144 Posts
December 10 2013 07:03 GMT
#14000
I got..

Libertarian: 92%
Republican: 60%
Green Party: 33%
Socialist: 21%
Democrats: 13%

Obviously libertarian here. xD Surprised that I had socialist up there as "high" as it was, but whatever. I really loved this quiz. Was very well done.

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