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pmh
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 07 2017 00:21 TheTenthDoc wrote: I really hope the 2020 Dem campaign just focuses on Trump being a massive policy hypocrite who is ending up a tool of the Republican establishment interested in business as usual when he isn't tweeting dumb shit. Swamp draining-dead. Border wall-real real dead. Anything happening to Clinton-dead. Standard Republican agenda on healthcare and social security-almost certainly happening. I think his budget plans are probably going to be wholly subsumed by Ryan, too. it's a bit early to have a set strategy for 2020, wait to see what shakes out a bit first, he's not even in office yet. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On January 06 2017 18:28 GreenHorizons wrote: It wasn't over Trump for Democrats. I figured you all would know I meant over Hillary. Speaking of the done one, you pushing Hillary to run for mayor? Source Bernie would have lost even worst and without the comfort of having a popular vote lead. Had Bernie run he would not have only lost more states but would have been a repeat of the Reagan victory where the entire country turned red. The DEMs only saved face because of Hillary--at least they lost on technicalities and not on popularity. Thinking the guy who couldn't even outpace the amount of votes Trump got in the primaries when Bernie only had one opponent to Trumps ten makes any theorycrafting of a supposed Bernie revolution that didn't even show up when he faced a democrat is laughable, childish, and shows a lack of understanding of how the world works. Nader packed stadiums too if you recall correctly. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 06 2017 23:49 oneofthem wrote: people who cant distinguish between military power as a diplomatic tool and actual wars can easily fall into the trap of confusing hillary's fp stance with warmongering. they didnt do a good job distinguishing the position. but the unique challenge of having to fight a two front war on fp certainly created the conditions that made this failure consequential. stein and stay at home voters were deeply delusional as to ww3 and russia escalation dangers and inability to address this flank while also needing to rebuff trump's machismo (which did not worry lefties lul) was a real factor in the loss I think misunderstanding the difference between military power as a diplomatic tool, outright wars, and military interventions is a defining feature of most American foreign policy blunders since Eisenhower left office. | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
On January 07 2017 00:22 SoSexy wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/kentucky-high-school-to-drop-stallion-mascot-after/ What do you guys think about this? I can't post my thoughts... Dan Harmon was prescient. That's what I think. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Paul Ryan, 2014, on Obama receiving intelligence briefings in writing rather than in person: I have a hard time comprehending that, because the primary job of the commander in chief is to keep the country safe. And you need to get from your intelligence community, your defense community — especially when we have troops in harm's way — what's going on. Paul Ryan, 2016, on Trump declining intelligence briefings: | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
But hey, he said "trade China bad" and "wall Mexico bad". Fingers crossed... | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
For decades, U.S. ambassadors politically appointed by an outgoing president have been able to request an extension until Congress confirms their replacement, selected by an incoming president, but President-elect Donald Trump has informed all such ambassadors that they must resign by Jan. 20 "without exceptions," according to a Dec. 23 State Department cable described to The New York Times. This will leave many key U.S. allies — Britain, Germany, Canada, Japan — without a U.S. ambassador for up to several months, but it also has envoys with school-age children — as Trump does — scrambling to figure out what to do. Source | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On January 07 2017 01:17 Mohdoo wrote: I can not believe what a spiteful, bitter man he is. This is insane. I felt like a lot of it was just a chest beating thing to win over tribal republicans. Ugh. I had this long thing written out about how we shouldn't judge the enemy (the GOP) as mere barbarian howler monkeys just rooting for the loudest screamer of the pack--but then I found myself not believing a single thing I wrote. Trump is really making it difficult to plays devils advocate for conservative views. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Donald Trump called roughly a dozen Ohio Republicans Thursday in an attempt to oust the state GOP chairman, a highly unusual exercise in political score-settling against a party leader who’s been accused of being disloyal to the president-elect. ... The president’s personal intervention — which came on a day in which Trump spent several hours sitting for a sworn, videotaped deposition in Trump Tower — has roiled the low-profile party contest, will be decided by Ohio’s 66 central committee members. A Trump transition aide said the president-elect had phoned around a dozen committee members. Politico It's funny because the deposition was for a score-settling lawsuit. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On January 07 2017 01:39 Thieving Magpie wrote: I had this long thing written out about how we shouldn't judge the enemy (the GOP) as mere barbarian howler monkeys just rooting for the loudest screamer of the pack--but then I found myself not believing a single thing I wrote. Trump is really making it difficult to plays devils advocate for conservative views. Well I think a big part of it is the fact that the left leaning part of the country has been advancing culturally a lot more quickly than the right part. Left leaning democrats are entirely comfortable essentially eliminating key parts of what is perceived as "American culture" or American identity. We aren't attached to it and we don't pride ourselves in the way we've done things just for the sake of appeals to tradition. In a lot of ways, the country is changing in ways that are downright alarming to the right and they are feeling like the whole country is being snatched out from under them for the sake of appearing more European and tolerant. Trump represents body-slamming that tendency and stopping it in its tracks. I think a lot of republicans saw the need for a Rambo approach to the problem because nothing else was working. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On January 07 2017 01:17 Mohdoo wrote: I can not believe what a spiteful, bitter man he is. This is insane. I felt like a lot of it was just a chest beating thing to win over tribal republicans. Ugh. Reminder that Trump is an Executive Producer to the show he is publicly criticizing. So he's making fun of his own failure... | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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dankobanana
Croatia244 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
is this real life ;___; | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 07 2017 02:40 Mohdoo wrote: LMAO he just said a company "sucks" is this real life ;___; It is an old tweet to be fair, but the point still stands I think. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
The US Congress is exploring ways to pay for a southern border wall, with payment to be sought from Mexico later. President-elect Donald Trump made building a wall, paid for by the US neighbour, a central campaign pledge. The businessman sparked a storm of disapproval in 2015 when he said Mexico was sending criminals and rapists north to the US through a porous border. In a tweet on Friday, he lashed out at the "dishonest media" for saying taxpayers would foot the bill. "Any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later!" Mr Trump's spokesman, Sean Spicer, insisted on Friday morning that the plan to seek reimbursement from Mexico after paying US money up-front "doesn't mean he's broken his promise". http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38524644 I don't know why he's still insisting this. as the article points out later most people don't care if Mexico actually pays for it or not. I guess for more leverage with Mexico but I really don't know if this will accomplish anything. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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