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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 06 2017 17:55 GMT
#130261
The salt in this thread is still at heart-attack levels

User was warned for this post
Dating thread on TL LUL
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 18:08:39
January 06 2017 18:06 GMT
#130262
On January 07 2017 02:17 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 01:17 Mohdoo wrote:
I can not believe what a spiteful, bitter man he is. This is insane. I felt like a lot of it was just a chest beating thing to win over tribal republicans. Ugh.


Reminder that Trump is an Executive Producer to the show he is publicly criticizing. So he's making fun of his own failure...

Him criticizing the show could boost ratings. Yay for conflicts of interest and priorities!

Also, please note how today there were a lot of articles regarding a lot more important topics:
https://news.vice.com/story/trump-says-us-taxpayers-might-fund-mexico-border-wall?utm_source=vicenewsfb
(Border wall progress)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/what-donald-trump-owes-wall-street/512327/?utm_source=atlfb
(Conflicts of interest)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/06/us/russian-hack-evidence.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
(Compilation of evidence in regards to Russian hacking)

Even Cracked (a humour website!) points out how common a strategy this is for him, and a lot of the media is playing into his hands.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-trump-plays-media-to-hide-big-news-stories/

It's downright scary how this stuff piles up so high you can't even start resolving an issue before the next scandal-headline.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 18:22:19
January 06 2017 18:22 GMT
#130263
Toyota employs 136,000 Americans.

Donald J. Trump sent shivers across the Japanese auto industry on Friday after warning Toyota on Twitter that he would impose a “big border tax” on the company if it built a new plant in Mexico.

It appeared to be the first time he had taken on a foreign company for plans that did not directly involve the United States. The effects were immediate: Shares in Toyota and other carmakers fell in trading on the Tokyo Stock Exchange on Friday. And Japanese government officials hustled to respond to the rhetoric with soothing reminders of the jobs that the country’s auto manufacturers had created in the United States.

“Toyota itself has tried to be a good corporate citizen in the U.S. to date,” said Yoshihide Suga, chief cabinet secretary to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

Daily Gendai, one of Japan’s leading tabloid newspapers, declared in a front-page headline that “Trump tries to smash Toyota,” and another tabloid, Evening Fuji, hinted at a coming battle with its headline, “Trump vs. Toyota.”


New York Times


Fighting for the American worker.


Three contractors have filed liens against President-elect Donald Trump’s showcase Washington, D.C., hotel, claiming they are owed $5 million in labor costs, according to records.

The so-called mechanic’s liens were filed against the 263-room, five-star Trump International Hotel in November and December with the District of Columbia, according to records obtained by Bloomberg and The Washington Post. Trump has boasted that he completed the $212 million renovation ahead of time and under budget.

A statement from the Trump Organization to the Post did not specifically address the merits of the filings, only that “nominal liens at the conclusion of construction is not uncommon as part of the close out process.”


Huffington Post

Lol @ "nominal"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
January 06 2017 18:29 GMT
#130264
Mechanics liens are only "not uncommon" if you make a public habit of delaying the payment of contractors beyond the terms of agreed upon payment deadlines. This is basically the same kind of deceit at play when Trump claims that his discriminatory landlord practices were justified because they were standard operating procedure among luxury NY landlords.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
January 06 2017 18:32 GMT
#130265
Shooting at Ft. Lauderdale airport in Florida.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 19:00:50
January 06 2017 18:47 GMT
#130266
so far 9 injured 1 dead (at least according to nbcnews). shooter in custody. There still making sure there's no accomplices at the moment.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15687 Posts
January 06 2017 18:58 GMT
#130267
And now we wait to see what general category the shooter falls under..
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 06 2017 18:59 GMT
#130268
On January 07 2017 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:
And now we wait to see what general category the shooter falls under..


It should be the only category that matters--he was armed.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 06 2017 19:01 GMT
#130269
multiple dead according to nbcnews. nothing more though
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
January 06 2017 19:05 GMT
#130270
On January 07 2017 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:
And now we wait to see what general category the shooter falls under..

It's kind of sad that the past few years has conditioned us to do this by default. Testie is right, though, when he says that humans can't just turn off pattern recognition in situations like this.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
January 06 2017 19:13 GMT
#130271
On January 07 2017 04:05 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:
And now we wait to see what general category the shooter falls under..

It's kind of sad that the past few years has conditioned us to do this by default. Testie is right, though, when he says that humans can't just turn off pattern recognition in situations like this.

Well it's already something great to be aware of it even if one cannot turn it down.

Hope there won't be too many victims
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 06 2017 19:29 GMT
#130272
There should just be a mass shooter court with a mandate to quickly impose and carry out the death penalty.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
January 06 2017 19:31 GMT
#130273
There is another shooter. It's not over sadly.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 06 2017 19:38 GMT
#130274
Meh, just another shooting. I care more about the overall homicide rate than the mass shootings in particular.


watched the official electoral vote tally.
booooo to the few democrats who kept getting up to make objections which were invalid because they weren't signed by a senator as well, thus wasting everyone's time with objections which were legally invalid. also shame on them for trying to violate the no debate clause.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 20:07:07
January 06 2017 20:06 GMT
#130275
Trump's reaction to the intelligence briefing? "There is no evidence they tampered with the votes or influenced the outcome." When asked about the fact it was Russia and their intent, he has nothing to say.

The fact the blowhard didn't come out calling the whole thing a farce tells me there was some convincing evidence which forced him to throw up some strawmen, like the voting machine tampering stuff.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
January 06 2017 20:23 GMT
#130276
On January 07 2017 04:38 zlefin wrote:
Meh, just another shooting. I care more about the overall homicide rate than the mass shootings in particular.


While I understand your point, I think it's pretty scary when shootings in the United States have become so commonplace that we say things like "Meh, just another shooting". Just your daily unnecessary loss of life, yawn...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
January 06 2017 20:30 GMT
#130277
Shooter is apparently Hispanic and shot randomly without any apparent motive.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
January 06 2017 20:35 GMT
#130278
On January 07 2017 04:29 Doodsmack wrote:
There should just be a mass shooter court with a mandate to quickly impose and carry out the death penalty.


I'm hoping Dylan Roof kicks up American support for the death penalty by at least 5 points. It's too low right now.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
January 06 2017 20:42 GMT
#130279
I can't think of any viable argument as to why the death penalty should exist...
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 20:52:41
January 06 2017 20:50 GMT
#130280
On January 07 2017 05:42 MyTHicaL wrote:
I can't think of any viable argument as to why the death penalty should exist...

I'm a little jaded and cynical right now, but haven't you heard and thought about a half dozen and rejected them because of your perceptions/analysis on viability? It's fine if you originally perceived people would offer arguments you would consider strong but not overwhelming others. Then you evaluate them to be weak.

We had the same thing when somebody here hadn't heard the arguments against abortion on demand. Yeah, different minds different upbringings different experiences different worldviews yield different conclusions.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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