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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#12121
Colorado voters pass measure to tax recreational marijuana. -@AP
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 06 2013 03:10 GMT
#12122
This is probably the worst result possible for moderates in the republican party. The candidate lost so they don't control the governorship but not by enough to make Tea Party feel like it was there fault.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:20:35
November 06 2013 03:10 GMT
#12123
Uhh... Cuccinelli is a tea partier even after the whole "government shutdown" thing. You know, that thing that fucked over all the government contractors that live in virginia and did unnecessary damage to the economy? Yea, we don't need more tea party crazies. Definitely not in Virginia. [Edit: Oh and don't forget all the "let's give government money to religious schools and hate gay people" part of Cuccinelli. The man is whacko. Please don't defend him]

It's true that McAuliffe is pretty awful though. Really depressing to see how close it was.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:12:45
November 06 2013 03:11 GMT
#12124
On November 06 2013 12:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This Virginia fight won't end the GOP Civil War, as now the Tea Party will point out that the establishment didn't help them in a fight they could have won. Ted Cruz is going to have a field day.


One last thing.

You are right. They will point to a blue repub in NJ as evidence that, like Mitt Romney, "only he can win!" Then the Tea Party will point out that the RNC did precious little compared to the DNC in VA. Both are legitimate points. Because it seems like they could have won it.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 06 2013 03:13 GMT
#12125
On November 06 2013 12:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This Virginia fight won't end the GOP Civil War, as now the Tea Party will point out that the establishment didn't help them in a fight they could have won. Ted Cruz is going to have a field day.

GOP Talking points: Had the libertarians voted for us we would have won.
Or as Drudge so succinctly explained the 'conservative' point of view on twitter: "McAuliffe, De Blasio and Christie: Triple feature in a Republican's nightmare. Hug a conservative today."
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
November 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#12126
Yea, I'm actually a little sad that Sarvis didn't get more. I agreed on most of his stuff (other than his education policy which was off in loonyville).
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:20:03
November 06 2013 03:17 GMT
#12127
On November 06 2013 12:13 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This Virginia fight won't end the GOP Civil War, as now the Tea Party will point out that the establishment didn't help them in a fight they could have won. Ted Cruz is going to have a field day.

GOP Talking points: Had the libertarians voted for us we would have won.
Or as Drudge so succinctly explained the 'conservative' point of view on twitter: "McAuliffe, De Blasio and Christie: Triple feature in a Republican's nightmare. Hug a conservative today."


The only anger I've heard about from the Tea Party is directed at the RNC. Or if they have blamed the libertarian, that is certainly not where they place most of the blame. I haven't heard anyone (at least big name people) blame Sarvis for the loss.

Your last quote is, however, very true. Well, replace "Republican" with "Conservative." The establishment is pretty happy with Christie, and I doubt they care about De Blasio. NYC is just that, a city. If they want that, they can have it.

Hopefully this really is the last thing for me. I have a calc exam tomorrow.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:22 GMT
#12128
Christie is giving Conservatives a lot of ammo if he does indeed run in 2016.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 06 2013 03:24 GMT
#12129
On November 06 2013 12:17 Introvert wrote:
The establishment is pretty happy with Christie, and I doubt they care about De Blasio. NYC is just that, a city. If they want that, they can have it.




Isn't CPAC the "establishment"?


Remember, one man -- Cuccinelli -- spoke at this year’s CPAC conference, while another man -- Christie -- wasn’t invited. As CPAC’s chief organizer said of Christie’s snub, "This year, for better or for worse, we felt like, ah, like he didn't deserve to be on the all-star selection.”


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:26 GMT
#12130
Yeah this is a presidential campaign speech.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:32:36
November 06 2013 03:31 GMT
#12131
On November 06 2013 12:10 Adreme wrote:
This is probably the worst result possible for moderates in the republican party. The candidate lost so they don't control the governorship but not by enough to make Tea Party feel like it was there fault.


The Tea Party just keeps reiterating that they're doing what the people want despite the fact that the people hate them. The Tea Party will never feel like it was their fault. Ever. All their rhetoric is populism that isn't actually popular.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 06 2013 03:32 GMT
#12132
On November 06 2013 12:17 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:13 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2013 12:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This Virginia fight won't end the GOP Civil War, as now the Tea Party will point out that the establishment didn't help them in a fight they could have won. Ted Cruz is going to have a field day.

GOP Talking points: Had the libertarians voted for us we would have won.
Or as Drudge so succinctly explained the 'conservative' point of view on twitter: "McAuliffe, De Blasio and Christie: Triple feature in a Republican's nightmare. Hug a conservative today."


The only anger I've heard about from the Tea Party is directed at the RNC. Or if they have blamed the libertarian, that is certainly not where they place most of the blame. I haven't heard anyone (at least big name people) blame Sarvis for the loss.

Your last quote is, however, very true. Well, replace "Republican" with "Conservative." The establishment is pretty happy with Christie, and I doubt they care about De Blasio. NYC is just that, a city. If they want that, they can have it.

Hopefully this really is the last thing for me. I have a calc exam tomorrow.


You say NYC is just a city but its more populated then a large majority of states in this country (think not counting NY state then only 10 states are bigger maybe 11).
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 06 2013 03:34 GMT
#12133
I wonder if Christie is playing the long game as in he knows he wont win 2016 primary but once they get killed in the general he can win the primary in 2020 when they all learn there lesson and then win general then.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:38 GMT
#12134
DiBlasio speaking,
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
November 06 2013 03:39 GMT
#12135
"Let them have the city." will go on to summarize the next few years of elections nicely methinks.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:41 GMT
#12136
Haha is he going to speak English then Spanish for his acceptance speech?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
November 06 2013 03:42 GMT
#12137
On November 06 2013 12:34 Adreme wrote:
I wonder if Christie is playing the long game as in he knows he wont win 2016 primary but once they get killed in the general he can win the primary in 2020 when they all learn there lesson and then win general then.


He's not Xanatos...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:47 GMT
#12138
Not sure why but this DeBlasio speech has some elements of a historic speech in American politics.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 06 2013 03:49 GMT
#12139
McAuliffe speaking,
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 06 2013 03:53 GMT
#12140
On November 06 2013 12:42 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:34 Adreme wrote:
I wonder if Christie is playing the long game as in he knows he wont win 2016 primary but once they get killed in the general he can win the primary in 2020 when they all learn there lesson and then win general then.


He's not Xanatos...


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