EPTNot going to restrict that, nope. That's tyranny.
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RealityIsKing
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Not going to restrict that, nope. That's tyranny. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States43536 Posts
On November 05 2016 12:50 RealityIsKing wrote: Yeah the internet is a place where people's thoughts are connected in the freest form possible. Not going to restrict that, nope. That's tyranny. Trump said: We’re losing a lot of people because of the Internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, ‘Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech,' these are foolish people. Are you a foolish person? | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 05 2016 12:50 RealityIsKing wrote: Yeah the internet is a place where people's thoughts are connected in the freest form possible. Not going to restrict that, nope. That's tyranny. Disclaimer: I'm not that knowledgeable about this subject, so I don't mean this as at all authoritative. I think it's very likely that as the internet integrates more and more with real life, our real life identities will be ever more intertwined with our online ones. The complete wild west of the past (and sort of wild west of right now) has its upsides (quite a lot of them actually), but it doesn't feel like it's something that will last. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage Looking at how fast we are moving towards ubiquitous internet usage, what worked for a system of 360~ million users in 2000 might not work for a system with 7.5 billion in 2020 or whatever. I hope there's a way to maintain the possibility of anonymity, though, don't get me wrong. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I don't think we will see regulation of the internet as a whole. More like segmentation into "two internets", one more regulated and with more safety systems. Where it will be easier to track down people using it. And the current, wild west internet we know. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 05 2016 13:19 Tachion wrote: Quick reminder of the community disaster that was Blizzard Real ID It was also ham fisted and poorly implemented. Also gamers suck. We all play mutiplayer games and know this. That isn't really what people are talking about anyways. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
At first people would say, "No I'll use my real name, I don't care". Then the death threats started coming in. It was in relation to being a Trump supporter, but still... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On November 05 2016 13:27 Plansix wrote: Remember that the people who are sending the death threats are anonymous. If they also had to use their real name, it would be a level playing field. The example doesn't work unless all sides are required to use their real names and face the consequences for their actions. Yeah, but it's not the ones sending the words that you have to be worried about. I like to think of it in the same way as books. You don't have to publish under your own name. Why would it be any different in digital form? I'm asking the question because I haven't thought about it at all. Giving it some minor thought, it seems like a very complex question what with the differences between e-mail, social media, posting on a blog, being a part of an editor team on an opinion-based website, or whatever other means of communicating ideas and thoughts there might be as part of the internet. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On November 05 2016 12:08 RealityIsKing wrote: Its better if we focus on what's tangible and what are speculations. If she really did got death threats, if she collected all the necessary evidence, this would hurt Trump's chances badly which means Hillary wins. And Clinton administration would most likely protect her. So chances are that she was bullshitting. Please don't judge a rape accuser to be bullshitting without taking into the account the shame and pain inherent in going public. It's just not smart. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 05 2016 13:38 plasmidghost wrote: How good is Reuters polls? Their new poll has Hillary ahead by 5, which sounds good, but yesterday it was +7. I really need to stop obsessing over these Averages of polls are more telling than individual polls anyways. Just let it go, it will happen as it does and at this point the most you can do is vote. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On November 05 2016 13:10 plasmidghost wrote: Looks like Hillary has stopped some of the bleeding on her chances of winning according to 538, her odds will probably level out at around 61% if nothing else major gets released I could see trump getting everything and hillary keeping her firewall in tact. something like 268-272 or something in the end. I think an early signal will be what NH / Maine 2 are doing, since they will be among the first to close, and thus trends will start to be established to feel out Trump / Hillary's support. then OFC NC and Florida since he kinda needs them. The only way for trump to win, imo, is getting either NH or Colorado. This assumes this condition: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Dg6icf1.png) Rest of the states feels like a stretch. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
I would enjoy more statistics banter. Elections are honestly much more interesting than sports stats anyways. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
He has given us no reason to believe he would be any better as a politician than he is in his business and personal lives. A vote for Trump is a vote for myopic political bias before country. Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling jobs in the United States worth $20,056 that occurred in the seven weeks before she had legal permission to work in the country, according to detailed accounting ledgers, contracts and related documents from 20 years ago provided to The Associated Press. Yahoo | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On November 05 2016 13:38 plasmidghost wrote: How good is Reuters polls? Their new poll has Hillary ahead by 5, which sounds good, but yesterday it was +7. I really need to stop obsessing over these Even the same polling outfitter can get random variations due to differences in sampling. Polling aggregators are much stronger due to the increase in sample size you get by combining multiple polls. I would recommend the Princeton Election Consortium run by Sam Wang over 538 as his model is purely state poll based. | ||
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