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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:27 Nebuchad wrote: What are the policies that 80%+ of Canadians agree on that you don't get implemented? Well, not really comparable because the British Parliamentary doesn't have a Senate, Congress and President who can all fight each other, and a majority election basically means 4 years of one party running the show completely. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:41 Leporello wrote: Sanders would be doing better than Clinton, because the polling-numbers have always said exactly that. ... Sanders also hasn't been attacked by much of anybody (hell, he was almost praised by some Republicans, for their own tactical purposes) and I promise you he would have been attacked had he been nominated. Taking his polling numbers at face value is misleading. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:40 xDaunt wrote: What? None of her thirty-year trail of bullshit that is of her own creation is her fault? it's not that much actual substantive problems. she's demonstrably attentive and competent. the broad strategy is good. the team is good. what else do you want? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:30 LegalLord wrote: Well you won't make yourself very electable with that attitude. It's important to sufficiently mock the people who gave an obscenely charitable interpretation to her criticisms in the primary, clinching the nomination but at the same time putting the entire election in the hands of the Republican Party, while having the balls to push one of the stupidest positions ever in trying to convince people she is electable. A fair bit of buyer's remorse around the choice to nominate her. hrc electability is more about her moderate attitude and considered, measured rhetoric. it's perceived as better for the general election. a 'the silent majority' that acts as a marker for the overton window marking electable positions. http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo6683623.html | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + though I think I would describe her position on the political spectrum, aka kind of moderate, as electable (in at least some sense) - which was probably the context in which electability was used by at least somebody. Sanders' position on the political spectrum was kind of risky in that regard, putting aside his probably more electable demeanour and personal history However, I am also dubious that Sanders would be in a better position. I don't believe there are sufficient facts to come to that conclusion (the value of his polling is a bit misleading) and there are some a priori arguments why Sanders would not be doing well (e.g. 'socialist' doesn't play well in the US). (edit: ) I also don't see the point in memeing about it over and over. The point of this thread is interesting discussion, not to piss other people off. I can see why many people forget this, but please make an effort not to. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:40 ticklishmusic wrote: legal does actually have good posts, though his stance as of late has gotten a bit stale. then again, the same could be said for most folks here myself included (except kwark continues to be entertaining in his british way, imo). The election is almost over (and we all have the proportionate election fatigue), we've covered most of the regular election-related posts, and we all know where everyone stands on the issues. With the exception of some of the more tangential points this thread has been quite stale for a while. In a week we will know our fate, and after that we can move on to discussing policy and forget about electability and lying and genocidal Hillary and child rapists and so on. Looking forward to it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:53 oneofthem wrote: i'll be hamilton then. Youre gunna get fucking shot and die a day later. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Well, just the US Treasurer really. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:56 Plansix wrote: Youre gunna get fucking shot and die a day later. already happened, now im a popular broadway act | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:09 LegalLord wrote: Well let's put it this way: Hillary's firewall corner states are about as safe as Florida was last week. More paths to victory have opened up for Trump. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PWlq5rP.png) he needs any one of those states assuming he gets florida, NC, and maybe Nevada -> but you need bigger states if you lose Nevada (not New Hampshire). All of those states are an uphill battle. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:00 LegalLord wrote: Honestly I found it to be a rather insipid and dull play. Not sure why it was as popular as it was. Wait, you saw Hamilton? Are you loaded or just happen to see super popular broadway show that are impossible to get tickets for? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:00 Plansix wrote: You are thinking of Jackson, who was a way shitter person than Hamilton. Nope. People wanted to remove Jackson, the treasurer suggested they remove Hamilton instead because the $10 was next in line for revision. People complained. I dunno, I'm a fan of Jackson really. Though he is the type of figure who would fall out of favor in modern times. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:45 oneofthem wrote: it's not that much actual substantive problems. she's demonstrably attentive and competent. the broad strategy is good. the team is good. what else do you want? Let's start with good judgment, which she clearly has no history of exercising while in higher positions of power. Her term as secretary of state was simply bad. Beyond that, a little bit of honesty and little less corruption would go a long away. There's reason why a vast majority of people thinks she's a liar. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:02 Plansix wrote: Wait, you saw Hamilton? Are you loaded or just happen to see super popular broadway show that are impossible to get tickets for? I wish. A fair bit of it can be watched online though. It really sort of underwhelmed compared to how much hype I have heard for it in the past year. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:05 xDaunt wrote: Let's start with good judgment, which she clearly has no history of exercising while in higher positions of power. Her term as secretary of state was simply bad. Beyond that, a little bit of honesty and little less corruption would go a long away. There's reason why a vast majority of people thinks she's a liar. A sizeable majority of people think that Obama wasn't born in the US but Ted Cruz was, let's just say that the people aren't always bringing their best people | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:06 LegalLord wrote: I wish. A fair bit of it can be watched online though. It really sort of underwhelmed compared to how much hype I have heard for it in the past year. it might be one of those you gotta do it live things. broadway seems like it would be. | ||
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