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Plansix
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:10 ticklishmusic wrote: it might be one of those you gotta do it live things. broadway seems like it would be. I have seen plenty of Broadway plays both live and on video. Video is no worse. The issue is just that the premise that it's being praised for just doesn't resonate with me. Like the Lincoln movie I also thought was sucky, it tried to be profound but only managed to be trite while appealing to people who wanted to see something profound in it. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
On November 02 2016 07:14 oneofthem wrote: it's a democracy, people vote. elites can't win by neglecting broad based interests. the most powerful asset in politics is still the ability to herd people. the persecution complex of those who think they are 'The People' might want to honestly think about how their ideas would be received by all the people. simplistic understanding of complex problems is the thing that underlies a lot of anger. this is not to say a whole lot of power is concentrated in lobbying and complex legislation and regulatory process influence. but the problem with simplistic understanding of complex problems is that you don't have the ability to correctly identify the culprits. and of course, if the problem is seen as simple, then it can easily fit into a conspiratorial view of the world where a select group of people is responsible for all the problems. Do you think this could be remedied by an effort to better educate and inform people how the political machine generally works or would it be too much effort for people with too little return? Better transparency and all. I'm not really sure what else to do. Telling people they're too dumb to understand things probably won't go over very well though. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
Did anyone catch the news about some Dems linked office raided for rigging claims in Philly? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:13 LegalLord wrote: I have seen plenty of Broadway plays both live and on video. Video is no worse. The issue is just that the premise that it's being praised for just doesn't resonate with me. Like the Lincoln movie I also thought was sucky, it tried to be profound but only managed to be trite while appealing to people who wanted to see something profound in it. eh, maybe just taste. i liked lincoln. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:22 KOFgokuon wrote: speak for yourself, the soundtrack for hamilton is awesome and i can't wait to see it in june I'm so envious. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:21 Dismay wrote: Do you think this could be remedied by an effort to better educate and inform people how the political machine generally works or would it be too much effort for people with too little return? Better transparency and all. I'm not really sure what else to do. Telling people they're too dumb to understand things probably won't go over very well though. just do a better job at addressing problems people legit have and hope the majority wins out. the fragmented media environment allows for new forms of official transparency and candor as well, not a full loss. takes some time for this stuff to heal, having a guy like obama is good. he can do a lot of the communicating. i really wish the wiki-brookings hillary was her campaign persona, a bit more populist adjusted. she is really pretty considerate and sensible if people give her a chance. the media wont cover her longwinded policy list speeches, she gotta condense it into a play. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:05 xDaunt wrote: Let's start with good judgment, which she clearly has no history of exercising while in higher positions of power. Her term as secretary of state was simply bad. Beyond that, a little bit of honesty and little less corruption would go a long away. There's reason why a vast majority of people thinks she's a liar. Powell: everything she touches is ruined Podesta: bad instincts FBI director: bad judgement Bernie Sanders: bad judgement Other staffers: wtf is she doing | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:35 biology]major wrote: Powell: everything she touches is ruined Podesta: bad instincts FBI director: bad judgement Bernie Sanders: bad judgement Other staffers: wtf is she doing Powell: endorsed her Podesta: supports and advises her FBI director: declined to prosecute her Sanders: fully supporting her Other staffers: obviously working for her Dear sir or madam, I regret to inform you your post is shit, even for a shitpost. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
good at listening wins over former enemies and critics etc | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
The entire soundtrack is available on YT if you want it. The video, less so but a fair bit. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:39 ticklishmusic wrote: Powell: endorsed her Podesta: supports and advises her FBI director: declined to prosecute her Sanders: fully supporting her Other staffers: obviously working for her Dear sir or madam, I regret to inform you your post is shit, even for a shitpost. It's not a shitpost when he's quoting what these people are saying privately behind Hillary's back, which is far more likely to be honest than the nonsense that they publicly spew. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:39 ticklishmusic wrote: Powell: endorsed her Podesta: supports and advises her FBI director: declined to prosecute her Sanders: fully supporting her Other staffers: obviously working for her Dear sir or madam, I regret to inform you your post is shit, even for a shitpost. I only addressed the point on judgement, her own people think she has shit judgement. Your shitpost is inferior to mine, get on on my level bro. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:44 ticklishmusic wrote: And yet somehow she gets the loyalty and support of all these people who recognize she's a flawed individual. It's like... she has redeeming qualities or something. Those redeeming qualities would be that she's the chosen of the Establishment and all of these hacks want to retain their influence, power, and other attendant benefits. ...and of course that she's not Trump. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
There was an article on the front page of the paper today about it happening to people Saturday night at 2am, 4am, and 5am due to a cock up. I really hope we pass the initiative. Not just because it's the right thing to do. As well for a great big fuck you to all the goddamn money from billionaire religious conservatives that live on the other side of the country who are pouring money into Florida politics and telling us how to live. If I could snap my fingers I'd outlaw that bullshit in a second. If you don't live here, don't tell us how to live. And if you're going to do that anyway, don't call at 9pm or 4am. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:39 oneofthem wrote: ^good judgment: gracious concession and boosting of obama good at listening wins over former enemies and critics etc That's like saying that she showed good judgment by not murdering Obama after losing to him. You need to raise your standards. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22085 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:52 Probe1 wrote: Motherfucker I just got a robocall to vote no on the medical maraijuana amendment. It's 8:51pm. There was an article on the front page of the paper today about it happening to people Saturday night at 2am, 4am, and 5am due to a cock up. I really hope we pass the initiative. Not just because it's the right thing to do. As well for a great big fuck you to all the goddamn money from billionaire religious conservatives that live on the other side of the country who are pouring money into Florida politics and telling us how to live. If I could snap my fingers I'd outlaw that bullshit in a second. If you don't live here, don't tell us how to live. And if you're going to do that anyway, don't call at 9pm or 4am. Aren't robocalls illegal Oo | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
you know who you remind me of xdaunt? charles krauthammer. dude was a legit brilliant writer who 100% deserved his pulitzer. then somehow he went a littly nutty and super rightwing. i guess the different is that at least he's not supporting trump. | ||
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