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Falling
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zlefin
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On September 23 2016 08:59 Falling wrote: what the hell people? Same ol' same ol' the website feedback thread also has some notes on it. sry 'bout the workload you getting. | ||
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Donald Trump's campaign isn't alone in patronizing his own businesses: taxpayers are indirectly doing so, too. Federal Election Commission records show that the U.S. Secret Service has paid the Trump campaign about $1.6 million to cover the cost of flying its agents with the candidate on a plane owned and operated by one of his companies. It’s standard practice for the agency — which is tasked with protecting presidential candidates as well as presidents and other federal officials — to reimburse presidential campaigns for the cost of traveling with the candidates. In fact, the Secret Service has reimbursed the Clinton campaign, too: $2.6 million so far this cycle. The difference with Trump is that one of his companies, TAG Air, Inc., owns the plane, so the government is effectively paying him. The Clinton campaign, by contrast, mostly has been chartering planes from a private company called Executive Fliteways in which the Clintons do not have any ownership interest. “The taxpayers are actually reimbursing Trump for the travel of the Secret Service agents," said Brett Kappel, a campaign finance lawyer at the law firm Akerman LLP. "It's just another example of how the Trump campaign has taken an unprecedentedly large amount of its money and spent it at Trump-owned facilities." Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks responded to questions about the Secret Service payments by saying “everything was done in accordance with FEC guidelines and regulations. Please direct further questions to USSS.” Secret Service spokeswoman Nicole Mainor said the FEC “specifically requires security personnel such as the Secret Service to reimburse campaigns for seats” on charter aircraft. Source | ||
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TheYango
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On September 23 2016 08:51 KwarK wrote: Yeah, don't call East Asians monkeys either. Same issue. As an East Asian, whether I consider an insult directed at me to be racist is largely contextual and not simply based on the particular insult being used. This includes insults that historically have particular racist connotations. On September 23 2016 08:56 LegalLord wrote: I think we should all just mutually agree to let this matter go, for the sake of not continuing a pointless thread of discussion. This is going nowhere. That is a very good idea. Lets go with that. | ||
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On September 23 2016 09:03 TheFish7 wrote: Soooooooooo how about that Mylan CEO? Her dad's a senator. At this point I'm just amused by her attempts to prove that the EpiPen price hike isn't just price gouging. Not the only culprit in pharmaceutical abuse but one fully deserving of criticism. | ||
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zlefin
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On September 23 2016 09:06 Barrin wrote: Alright, IMO Hillary's got the best agenda. At least for me, but I think for the most amount of [current] US citizens too. But what's the best reason to believe she'll actually pull through with [most of] it? What is the best reason to trust her? I was pleasantly surprised when I googled similar things the other day, but I want to hear some of your reasons. because, depsite the stereotype; most politician try to keep their promises. and as a politician, she'll support her powerbase, which is center-left, because it benefits her to do so. | ||
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KwarK
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On September 23 2016 09:06 Barrin wrote: Alright, IMO Hillary's got the best agenda. At least for me, but I think for the US too. But what's the best reason to believe she'll actually pull through with [most of] it? What is the best reason to trust her? I was pleasantly surprised when I googled similar things the other day, but I want to hear some of your reasons. I like the way Hillary doesn't plan to make stop and frisk, a policy which deliberately profiles African Americans for targeting by the police, a nationwide initiative. You? | ||
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ticklishmusic
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also either clinton is spending a huge amount of effort pretending to be liberal, or maybe she actually is. or she's so good at pretending she's the actual thing. like look all this policy stuff she puts out. and finally, if she was really as much of a neo con/ con, then the republicans wouldnt be trying to crucify her all these years. theyd be okay if a center right person managed to hijack the opposing party. and realistically, she wants two terms. can't get two terms if you don't keep your promises. i don't think there's too much wrong with her character. maybe some hubris and the-rules-dont-apply-to-me, but nothing out of the ordinary for a politician. plus, look at what the things she's fought for - worked in a legal clinic going undercover to identify racism, fought for children's healthcare, fought for insurance reform, pushed for women's and LBGT rights around the globe. either she did all this stuff starting from law school to look good or maybe she's actually a good person. | ||
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KwarK
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On September 23 2016 09:13 Barrin wrote: Right, right like I said she's already sold me on the policy. But what about her character? I like the way she appears to have put some thought into her policies and not just crowdsourced them from racist drunks. You? | ||
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ticklishmusic
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On September 23 2016 09:17 Barrin wrote: Ok this is a good one. But what about something she can't or couldn't have really gained from? Maybe something that went fairly unnoticed? After law school she went to work for the children's defense fund to investigate racism in schools in the South. With a law degree from Yale, she could have gone to a big law firm and made big bucks and schmoozed, but she chose that instead. | ||
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