US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4408

On July 23 2016 01:27 PassiveAce wrote:
sum cartoons

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On July 23 2016 01:43 Mohdoo wrote:


Do we think that is possible, or more likely that they will simply sit this one out?

On July 23 2016 01:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


Don't forget it was the Cruz campaign that 'accidentally' posted a nude photo of Trump's wife that started the entire slugfest.

People just want to forget it was an escalation of conflict and just assume this is another example of 'Trump playing dirty' by attacking Cruz's wife without motivation because they plays into their confirmation bias of him being the worst thing ever.

On July 23 2016 02:17 zlefin wrote:
or at least the blame people place on NAFTA, regardless of the accuracy thereof.
Though there's gonna be a lot of factors in play; hard to say which ones were the most relevant.

On July 23 2016 02:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah this election will come to down to one area. The rust belt. NAFTA is the weight around Clinton's neck.

On July 23 2016 02:24 xDaunt wrote:

When it comes to the issues, I think that it is pretty clear at this point that trade policy/blue collar economic interests will be the dominant issue, along with immigration and terrorism. As things are going, Hillary is decidedly disadvantaged in these areas. Hillary is arguably stronger on the lesser issues, but I don't think that they are going to drive people like the big ones previously listed. Hillary's saving grace is that Trump is an asshole, but this advantage is offset to at least some degree by her own personal baggage. The democrats really have disadvantaged themselves by coronating Hillary instead of running a truly open and competitive primary.

On July 23 2016 01:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


Who was it posting articles about how he hadn't filed evidence yet and was just going to lie about it and never forgive the loans?

Guess that settles that debate.

Another +1 for Trump and -1 for sensationalist media

On July 23 2016 02:28 Gorsameth wrote:

Its not sensationalist media when there is plenty of evidence to doubt him.
Like the charity organizations that did not receive his Veteran charity money until after the press starting poking around and asking questions.

Yes he has now forgiven the loan, gz. He did what he said he would. It shouldn't be a newsworthy event but it is. Simply because he lies so often.

In May, under pressure from the news media, Donald Trump made good on a pledge he made four months earlier: He gave $1 million to a nonprofit group helping veterans’ families.

Before that, however, when was the last time that Trump had given any of his own money to a charity?

If Trump stands by his promises, such donations should be occurring all the time. In the 15 years prior to the veterans donation, Trump promised to donate earnings from a wide variety of his moneymaking enterprises: “The Apprentice.” Trump Vodka. Trump University. A book. Another book. If he had honored all those pledges, Trump’s gifts to charity would have topped $8.5 million.

But in the 15 years prior to the veterans’ gift, public records show that Trump donated about $2.8 million through a foundation set up to give his money away — less than a third of the pledged amount — and nothing since 2009. Records show Trump has given nothing to his foundation since 2008.

Trump and his staff are adamant that he has given away millions privately, off the foundation’s books. Trump won’t release his tax returns, which would confirm such gifts, and his staff won’t supply details. “There’s no way for you to know or understand,” Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks told BuzzFeed recently.

Hicks did not respond to repeated questions about Trump’s charity from The Washington Post. Trump earlier this month revoked The Post’s press credentials to cover his events.

[Months after fundraiser, Trump says he gave $1 million to veterans group]

In recent weeks, The Post tried to answer the question by digging up records going back to the late 1980s and canvassing a wide swath of nonprofits with some connection to Trump.

That research showed that Trump has a long-standing habit of promising to give to charity. But Trump’s follow-through on those promises was middling — even at the beginning, in his early days as a national celebrity.

In the 1980s, Trump pledged to give away royalties from his first book to fight AIDS and multiple sclerosis. But he gave less to those causes than he did to his older daughter’s ballet school.