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On July 23 2016 00:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
LOL, he is going to start an illegal super PAC to cost his party a seat in the senate. The day after accepting the nomination as its leader.
There is some poor communication director that is face palming and telling someone else, “No we can’t stop the interview.”
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On July 23 2016 00:36 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:33 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:29 biology]major wrote:
When asked in a town hall a while back what his weakness was, trump said: "I never let things go". Saying he never forgives people who cross him. Pretty sure Cruz is going to be reminded ad nauseum by trump anytime he does anything political in the future Unless Trump loses the election. Then Cruz will be the guy standing there saying "I tried to stop you guys collectively following an idiot into a Hillary Presidency". Trump is only a good idea if he wins. Even if Trump loses, I don't see Cruz being well-positioned to be the nominee in 2020. First, Cruz is bereft of allies in the party. Second, the republican party was redefined last night. Cruz isn't going to fit the mold that Trump has created.
Yeah, Cruz committed political suicide.
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On July 23 2016 00:41 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:36 xDaunt wrote:On July 23 2016 00:33 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:29 biology]major wrote:
When asked in a town hall a while back what his weakness was, trump said: "I never let things go". Saying he never forgives people who cross him. Pretty sure Cruz is going to be reminded ad nauseum by trump anytime he does anything political in the future Unless Trump loses the election. Then Cruz will be the guy standing there saying "I tried to stop you guys collectively following an idiot into a Hillary Presidency". Trump is only a good idea if he wins. Even if Trump loses, I don't see Cruz being well-positioned to be the nominee in 2020. First, Cruz is bereft of allies in the party. Second, the republican party was redefined last night. Cruz isn't going to fit the mold that Trump has created. Yeah, Cruz committed political suicide.
He had a lot of primary votes, and recently. I'm not sure his support among the voters has evaporated because of one Trump speech.
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On July 23 2016 00:42 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:41 zeo wrote:On July 23 2016 00:36 xDaunt wrote:On July 23 2016 00:33 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:29 biology]major wrote:
When asked in a town hall a while back what his weakness was, trump said: "I never let things go". Saying he never forgives people who cross him. Pretty sure Cruz is going to be reminded ad nauseum by trump anytime he does anything political in the future Unless Trump loses the election. Then Cruz will be the guy standing there saying "I tried to stop you guys collectively following an idiot into a Hillary Presidency". Trump is only a good idea if he wins. Even if Trump loses, I don't see Cruz being well-positioned to be the nominee in 2020. First, Cruz is bereft of allies in the party. Second, the republican party was redefined last night. Cruz isn't going to fit the mold that Trump has created. Yeah, Cruz committed political suicide. He had a lot of primary votes, and recently. I'm not sure his support among the voters has evaporated because of one Trump speech.
He consciously sabotaged his party.
edit: Sure some idiots will vote for him but he will lose his seat in the senate and be a non-factor from then on.
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On July 23 2016 00:44 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:42 Doodsmack wrote:On July 23 2016 00:41 zeo wrote:On July 23 2016 00:36 xDaunt wrote:On July 23 2016 00:33 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:29 biology]major wrote:
When asked in a town hall a while back what his weakness was, trump said: "I never let things go". Saying he never forgives people who cross him. Pretty sure Cruz is going to be reminded ad nauseum by trump anytime he does anything political in the future Unless Trump loses the election. Then Cruz will be the guy standing there saying "I tried to stop you guys collectively following an idiot into a Hillary Presidency". Trump is only a good idea if he wins. Even if Trump loses, I don't see Cruz being well-positioned to be the nominee in 2020. First, Cruz is bereft of allies in the party. Second, the republican party was redefined last night. Cruz isn't going to fit the mold that Trump has created. Yeah, Cruz committed political suicide. He had a lot of primary votes, and recently. I'm not sure his support among the voters has evaporated because of one Trump speech. He consciously sabotaged his party. edit: Sure some idiots will vote for him but he will lose his seat in the senate and be a non-factor from then on.
It's just quite the proclamation to say that the events of the RNC evaporated his support among voters.
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On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering.
The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles?
Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?"
I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone.
It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense.
My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot.
The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen.
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The will depend on if the state of Texas voters decide to throw him out based on this. Texas is a strange state and refusing to endorse someone because they insulted your wife and father is the sort of thing that could play well there.
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On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen.
The reason they had assault rifles behind cars is because they were responding to a call about a man with a gun. So they probably had to assume the object in the guy's hand was a gun. But I would think they could use binoculars or a scope.
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On July 23 2016 00:51 Plansix wrote:
The will depend on if the state of Texas voters decide to throw him out based on this. Texas is a strange state and refusing to endorse someone because they insulted your wife and father is the sort of thing that could play well there.
Yeah, Cruz's reasoning about insults to his family was covered by the media. It could very well be a wash.
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Anyway, anyone following the DNC wikileaks dump?
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Hitching your wagon to Trump is only justifiable if Trump wins. In 4 months there are going to be a lot of Republican politicians trying to explain why they were never actually a true believer and didn't mean all those things they said.
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On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen.
There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias.
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On July 23 2016 00:51 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. The reason they had assault rifles behind cars is because they were responding to a call about a man with a gun. So they probably had to assume the object in the guy's hand was a gun. But I would think they could use binoculars or a scope.
Or ears. The situation was loudly explained.
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On July 23 2016 00:54 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias.
The autistic guy was white. It was the social worker lying on the ground, arms in the air, explaining the situation who was black. The guy playing with his toy truck was white. They shot the black guy.
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On July 23 2016 00:55 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:54 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias. The autistic guy was white. It was the social worker lying on the ground, arms in the air, explaining the situation who was black. The guy playing with his toy truck was white. They shot the black guy.
I was not fully aware the guy with the truck was white. I didn’t watch the video, as I don’t enjoy watching people get shot. I am not sure if that makes this better or worse. I think worse.
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On July 23 2016 00:56 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:55 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:54 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias. The autistic guy was white. It was the social worker lying on the ground, arms in the air, explaining the situation who was black. The guy playing with his toy truck was white. They shot the black guy. I was not fully aware the guy with the truck was white. I didn’t watch the video, as I don’t enjoy watching people get shot. I am not sure if that makes this better or worse. I think worse.
They did explain that they meant to shoot the white guy because they were afraid he would hurt the black guy and they only accidentally shot and then handcuffed and then arrested the black guy.
Also you should watch the video, the guy was only shot in the leg and the video doesn't show it. It'd be pretty funny if it were in a comedy movie although it'd be a little too absurd and the audience wouldn't believe it was plausible.
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On July 23 2016 00:56 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:55 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:54 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias. The autistic guy was white. It was the social worker lying on the ground, arms in the air, explaining the situation who was black. The guy playing with his toy truck was white. They shot the black guy. I was not fully aware the guy with the truck was white. I didn’t watch the video, as I don’t enjoy watching people get shot. I am not sure if that makes this better or worse. I think worse.
You can watch the video, no ones getting shot in it. But honestly im not sure if I should laugh or not because its serious but its just so hilariously pathetic.
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I really think Clinton picking Kaine would be a big mistake. I am not seeing a single benefit.
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On July 23 2016 00:58 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 00:56 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:55 KwarK wrote:On July 23 2016 00:54 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:50 Simberto wrote:On July 23 2016 00:14 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really. A nation news site needs to start running the odds spread of the officer will be charged, fired, convicted and nothing will happen. Right now, I see no chance of anything bad happening to these officers. And I really want the total money paid victims of faulty police shootings families nationwide. I bet that number is staggering. The whole situation is just crazy as fuck. Why are there even armed cops at that place? Why do they hide behind their car with assault rifles? Wouldn't the normal reaction to that kind of situation be to just walk up to the two guys and ask "Hey, what is going on here, why is that dude sitting in the middle of the street making zooom zooom noises?" I just can't figure out how that situation even evolved to this weird stand off situation. And then obviously it is even weirder that cops, who should be trained to handle unexpected situations, could not figure out a way to deal with this obviously nonthreatening situation without shooting anyone. It is just such a complete contrast to what i would expect to happen in that situation. And i can't figure it out. Usually stuff tends to make a bit of sense from some point of view, and it is possible to explain how a situation evolved the way it did. In this case nothing makes sense. My only go at explaining this is that the police just react with assault rifles and hiding behind cars, no matter what is going on, because that is their standard procedure or because they are fearful of the population for some reason. But that is horrific. If you always come up with guns locked and loaded, people will get shot a lot. The whole situation is just so completely alien. Even the guy explaining "I held my arms in the air and lay on my back so they wouldn't shoot me". That isn't how interactions with the police should work. I must say that i don't have a lot of interactions with the police, but "being shot" is a result of such an interaction that wouldn't even come up on my list of things that could happen. There was a black dude holding a thing that vaguely resembled a fire arm in combination with a complete failure of professional judgment. And of course, a touch of racial bias. The autistic guy was white. It was the social worker lying on the ground, arms in the air, explaining the situation who was black. The guy playing with his toy truck was white. They shot the black guy. I was not fully aware the guy with the truck was white. I didn’t watch the video, as I don’t enjoy watching people get shot. I am not sure if that makes this better or worse. I think worse. They did explain that they meant to shoot the white guy because they were afraid he would hurt the black guy and they only accidentally shot and then handcuffed and then arrested the black guy. Also you should watch the video, the guy was only shot in the leg and the video doesn't show it. It'd be pretty funny if it were in a comedy movie although it'd be a little too absurd and the audience wouldn't believe it was plausible.
I’ll take your word for it. I don’t watch videos where people get shot or having been shot since my brother got deployed. They are a 100% sure way to ruin my day.
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