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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 22 2016 14:27 GMT
#88061
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
July 22 2016 14:30 GMT
#88062
Love Jon's monologue.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
July 22 2016 14:36 GMT
#88063
On July 22 2016 22:06 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 18:00 Elroi wrote:



Despite the countless other amazing things George Takei has done, this might be the absolute best.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 14:53:09
July 22 2016 14:52 GMT
#88064
Yeah I don't think the fear mongering and animosity at the convention could have been any stronger if they tried. Trump saying in the main speech that virtually every major problem with the country is "Hillary's legacy" was the capstone.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
July 22 2016 14:54 GMT
#88065
INSTANT POLL: Trump's speech was a hit with voters

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/instant-poll-trumps-speech-hit-052004293.html
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2016 14:57 GMT
#88066
Interesting. It is a poll of viewers, so I would assume he would get at minimum 50%. The conventions are not really “must see TV” ratings wise, so it would be interesting to see the breakdown of those polled.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 14:58 GMT
#88067
On July 22 2016 23:54 pmh wrote:
INSTANT POLL: Trump's speech was a hit with voters

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/instant-poll-trumps-speech-hit-052004293.html


It's interesting to contemplate what percentage of the speech viewers were Democrats or Republicans. One might think it was likely to be a higher percentage of Republicans. 56% of speech viewers chose the positive poll response. I'm not sure that makes it a hit.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
July 22 2016 14:59 GMT
#88068
Yeah, Trump's speech was a hit with viewers... most of whom were already in his camp anyway.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 22 2016 14:59 GMT
#88069
i mean, it's like polling cleveland if they though the nba finals were good
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 14:59:55
July 22 2016 14:59 GMT
#88070
From a few days ago, for those that have mentioned this issue before:

CLEVELAND— Donald Trump has followed through on his promise to forgive personal loans to his campaign.

The Republican presidential nominee forgave about $47.5 million in loans, according to a Federal Election Commission report filed Wednesday. Trump previously said he did so, but had so far not offered evidence.

Trump, who is expected to accept the GOP's nomination here Thursday, funded his primary election run mostly through personal loans. His campaign started raising more money from donors in June.

It reported nearly $27 million in total receipts for the month and ended it with more than $20 million on hand.

The Trump campaign directed CNBC to Trump's past statements on his loan forgiveness. In June, Trump called the loans a "contribution to make America great again."

During the primary process, Trump touted his ability to funnel money into his campaign as evidence that he is not beholden to donors. But he has turned to more traditional fundraising ahead of the more demanding general election.

Source
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 22 2016 15:00 GMT
#88071
On July 22 2016 23:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
i mean, it's like polling cleveland if they though the nba finals were good


Except that wouldve gotten a 200 %
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43964 Posts
July 22 2016 15:01 GMT
#88072
Fun update on that story where there was a black social worker and his autistic patient and the police decided to corner them with guns. For those who didn't know, the black guy lay on the ground, arms up in the air shouting to the police that he was unarmed, that he was a social worker, that the patient sitting next to him was also unarmed and was his autistic patient, that what he was holding was a toy truck and that he didn't understand to lie down. He also did all he could to encourage the patient to lie down without lowering his own arms because he didn't want to get shot. The police then shot him (black social worker lying on the ground with arms in the air) and handcuffed him while he asked them why they shot him and the shooter replied "I don't know".

The police have now explained that they actually meant to shoot the autistic guy sitting on the ground playing with his toy truck and that they just missed and hit the social worker, lying on the ground with his arms in the air while trying to explain that neither of them were remotely armed and dangerous and that his patient didn't understand them.

I'm not sure how they missed and accidentally handcuffed the social worker instead of the autistic guy but I guess it just shows more training is needed.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 22 2016 15:02 GMT
#88073
Simple the cops knew they fucked up and the guy shot was handcuffed and left bleeding for 20 minutes in hopes that he would die.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 22 2016 15:04 GMT
#88074
On July 23 2016 00:01 KwarK wrote:
Fun update on that story where there was a black social worker and his autistic patient and the police decided to corner them with guns. For those who didn't know, the black guy lay on the ground, arms up in the air shouting to the police that he was unarmed, that he was a social worker, that the patient sitting next to him was also unarmed and was his autistic patient, that what he was holding was a toy truck and that he didn't understand to lie down. He also did all he could to encourage the patient to lie down without lowering his own arms because he didn't want to get shot. The police then shot him (black social worker lying on the ground with arms in the air) and handcuffed him while he asked them why they shot him and the shooter replied "I don't know".

The police have now explained that they actually meant to shoot the autistic guy sitting on the ground playing with his toy truck and that they just missed and hit the social worker, lying on the ground with his arms in the air while trying to explain that neither of them were remotely armed and dangerous and that his patient didn't understand them.

I'm not sure how they missed and accidentally handcuffed the social worker instead of the autistic guy but I guess it just shows more training is needed.
+ Show Spoiler [old video] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAJRcRZPfwQ


look, i'm all about not attributing things to malice that are adequately explained by stupidity but this is some next level stuff.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
July 22 2016 15:04 GMT
#88075
They're just not even trying anymore to hide their prejudice. It's ridiculous.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 15:06 GMT
#88076
That has to be the most egregious case of police brutality...basically ever.

Actually no, the ones where they slaughter someone who is running away are worse.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 22 2016 15:06 GMT
#88077
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9204 Posts
July 22 2016 15:12 GMT
#88078
On July 23 2016 00:01 KwarK wrote:
Fun update on that story where there was a black social worker and his autistic patient and the police decided to corner them with guns. For those who didn't know, the black guy lay on the ground, arms up in the air shouting to the police that he was unarmed, that he was a social worker, that the patient sitting next to him was also unarmed and was his autistic patient, that what he was holding was a toy truck and that he didn't understand to lie down. He also did all he could to encourage the patient to lie down without lowering his own arms because he didn't want to get shot. The police then shot him (black social worker lying on the ground with arms in the air) and handcuffed him while he asked them why they shot him and the shooter replied "I don't know".

The police have now explained that they actually meant to shoot the autistic guy sitting on the ground playing with his toy truck and that they just missed and hit the social worker, lying on the ground with his arms in the air while trying to explain that neither of them were remotely armed and dangerous and that his patient didn't understand them.

I'm not sure how they missed and accidentally handcuffed the social worker instead of the autistic guy but I guess it just shows more training is needed.
+ Show Spoiler [old video] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAJRcRZPfwQ

I wonder if their current training includes being told that everyone is out to get them. I'm not convinced more training is as needed as different training.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 15:12 GMT
#88079
On July 23 2016 00:06 LegalLord wrote:
Yeah, this one is straight up stupid. Not much more to say there, really.


Personally I think a stronger word than stupid applies but yes, whatever adjective you want to use there.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 15:13 GMT
#88080
On July 23 2016 00:12 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 00:01 KwarK wrote:
Fun update on that story where there was a black social worker and his autistic patient and the police decided to corner them with guns. For those who didn't know, the black guy lay on the ground, arms up in the air shouting to the police that he was unarmed, that he was a social worker, that the patient sitting next to him was also unarmed and was his autistic patient, that what he was holding was a toy truck and that he didn't understand to lie down. He also did all he could to encourage the patient to lie down without lowering his own arms because he didn't want to get shot. The police then shot him (black social worker lying on the ground with arms in the air) and handcuffed him while he asked them why they shot him and the shooter replied "I don't know".

The police have now explained that they actually meant to shoot the autistic guy sitting on the ground playing with his toy truck and that they just missed and hit the social worker, lying on the ground with his arms in the air while trying to explain that neither of them were remotely armed and dangerous and that his patient didn't understand them.

I'm not sure how they missed and accidentally handcuffed the social worker instead of the autistic guy but I guess it just shows more training is needed.
+ Show Spoiler [old video] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAJRcRZPfwQ

I wonder if their current training includes being told that everyone is out to get them. I'm not convinced more training is as needed as different training.


The extreme tribe mentality of cops is a big issue.
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