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Mohdoo
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farvacola
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pmh
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Polls are looking a bit better as well again. The trump train is back on track to crush crooked Hillary in November. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:05 Mohdoo wrote: Holy shit @ the Paul Ryan with interns picture. Is there even a single tan person, let alone brown? What a mess. does this matter? | ||
KwarK
United States42649 Posts
Not if we assume that they selected the best applicant every time, regardless of race, that diversity for the sake of diversity has no value and that public perception is unimportant. But even then it's a stunningly poor PR move. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
Did you see the picture? Look at the picture. That is a stunningly non-diverse group of people. I am not accusing them of racism or anything, but the complete lack of effort to diversify is obvious. And as Kwark said, at the very least, a PR disaster. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:51 xDaunt wrote: So Baltimore is now 0-4 in prosecuting the Freddie Gray cops. This is what happens when you assume public outrage will enable over-aggressive verdicts. They should have played it safe, got someone's head on a somewhat platter and declared victory. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21666 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:53 Mohdoo wrote: This is what happens when you assume public outrage will enable over-aggressive verdicts. They should have played it safe, got someone's head on a somewhat platter and declared victory. Or you can work to get a police force that is actually responsible for its actions so that you don't have people dying while being transported chained up in a police van with no one being responsible. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
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kapibara-san
Japan415 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:58 GreenHorizons wrote: It was ruled a homicide, but somehow no one is responsible. Can't imagine why there's so little faith in the "justice" system. to nitpick: legally, the word homicide does not imply a killer is criminally at fault, it just means someone killed someone executions are homicides | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:57 Gorsameth wrote: Or you can work to get a police force that is actually responsible for its actions so that you don't have people dying while being transported chained up in a police van with no one being responsible. If we don't have enough power to convict at least one person of homicide, how much ability do you think they have to create change/reform? The police are (sadly) invincible here. There needs to be direct legislation to tackle this. Systematically, police accountability is extremely lacking. They aren't going to change that willingly. Going to need to rip it from them. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 19 2016 00:01 Godwrath wrote: I don't know about others people experiences in the army, but most women i met on the army were gay. But i guess that Pence was right all along because on of them was going out with her (female) superior. Oh man. Oh, and women barracks were certainly an interesting place, but not for males. I don't really know what you're trying to say about gay or military women here. I haven't found the 'most military women are lesbos' stereotype to be true in my experience. Fraternization and unprofessional relationships (such as those between a superior and a subordinate) are strictly prohibited in any case. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:01 kapibara-san wrote: to nitpick: legally, the word homicide does not imply a killer is criminally at fault, it just means someone killed someone executions are homicides Yeah, someone killed him while he was in police custody and it appears it's not criminal. Again, can't imagine why people don't trust that system. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21666 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:04 Mohdoo wrote: If we don't have enough power to convict at least one person of homicide, how much ability do you think they have to create change/reform? The police are (sadly) invincible here. There needs to be direct legislation to tackle this. Systematically, police accountability is extremely lacking. They aren't going to change that willingly. Going to need to rip it from them. I completely agree, it ties into the whole 'Police are not accountable' issue that is a systematic problem in the US. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't really know what you're trying to say about gay or military women here. I haven't found the 'most military women are lesbos' stereotype to be true in my experience. Fraternization and unprofessional relationships (such as those between a superior and a subordinate) are strictly prohibited in any case. I am saying that most women i met when i was in the military were self declared gay, not that i thought they were boyish and gay. And your experience may differ, that's why i said in my experience in the first place. About the second point, and i don't know how it is on the US army,, since you can ask to move to a different unit so you are not in direct subordination, which is what she did and here it is fine (same for marriages), and i doubt the US army is less progressive in that regard. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21666 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:11 Godwrath wrote: I am saying that most women i met when i was in the military were self declared gay, not that i thought they were boyish and gay. And your experience may differ, that's why i said in my experience in the first place. About the second point, and i don't know how it is on the US army,, since you can ask to move to a different unit so you are not in direct subordination, which is what she did and here it is fine (same for marriages), and i doubt the US army is less progressive in that regard. You doubt the US army is less progressive? Less then 5 years ago if you were discovered to be gay in the US army you had to leave... | ||
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zlefin
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GGTeMpLaR
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:16 Gorsameth wrote: You doubt the US army is less progressive? Less then 5 years ago if you were discovered to be gay in the US army you had to leave... Oh well, america never ceases to amaze me i guess. | ||
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