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On June 16 2016 09:27 GreenHorizons wrote:


No. There is a distinct and clear racial component to the prison pipeline and pettifogging/trying to explain it away is complicity in my view.

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On June 16 2016 09:44 biology]major wrote:


The kids are still at a huge disadvantage because a lot of the fathers are in jail or impregnate multiple women as your article indicates. Having a solid family support system is probably the most fundamental aspect of preventing kids from breaking the law or committing crimes.

On June 16 2016 09:48 Plansix wrote:

That is way more likely when people are not poor. It is a systemic problem, because the kid with it a dad becomes that absentee father when he goes to jail.

On June 16 2016 07:54 SK.Testie wrote:
I don't think it matters whether what they have is substantial. So long as they can keep up the bombardment on low information voters they'll crush the election regardless. It's why I think Hillary simply has it in the bag. Every late night host, every news outlet, every celebrity, all guns are on Trump with very little support. Sound bites and snippets will always be played against him. His issues and policies will not matter.

I'm definitely not implying that high information voters don't have plenty of great arguments to vote against him. I'm well aware they have a literal truckload of reasons. But among high information voters you'll have a more equal split overall. Because a lot of those voters aren't necessarily voting for Trump or his immigration policies, they are voting on what they think governments role should be.

Whereas in Canada for instance, a tonne of women voted for Trudeau because he was cute. Regardless of how good a politician he may or may not be, I think most of us can agree this is a borderline retarded way to vote for your country.

Julian Assange from Wikileaks said he'd be releasing a lot of fun info on Clinton. And he genuinely dislikes and fears the woman for obvious reasons. Discussion on Hillary and not BRexit starts at around 4:10.
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On June 16 2016 09:54 biology]major wrote:


I agree that it's a systemic problem, I just don't think its racism. The only truly racist thing I see from the posts here are the fact that same crimes receiving different sentences. Even that could probably be explained by repeat offenses and or severity of the crime.

On June 16 2016 10:09 Plansix wrote:
In the case of the US, we jail a larger percentage of our population than any other nation, including dictatorships. The large number of those are minorities and the laws disproportionately effect them due to that fact. It's not because we have more crime, it's because our justice system is broken.

On June 15 2016 23:05 SolaR- wrote:


The atheist who has to see religion permeating through everything and influencing society through it's dogmatic prininciples is the asshole because he burns a book that you can buy at your local book store for 10 dollars.

I find it funny liberals love to call atheists or anti-theists assholes for simply criticizing religion, but will go to great lengths to defend Islam. One of the most oppressive religions of all time.

Religion is a choice, and like all choices it is subject to criticism and does not qualify for any level of respect. It is not to be grouped with race, gender, or sexuality as they are inherent in one's identity that cannot be changed.

The fact that we have so many religions with conflicting principles with people who take it so seriously to the extent of life or death is the very reason while we will continue to have violent conflicts. Immunity from criticism and their unwillingness to hear any criticism is the primary reason why Islam has lacked reform and modernization compared to the other Judaic religions.

In addition, people in this thread need to stop referring to Muslims as a race of people. It is a religion, not a race. The middle east is multi cultural. Black, brown, and white muslims. Many arabs are borderline white. So stop referring to it as a ban on brown people.

On June 16 2016 10:18 SK.Testie wrote:
"Do the right thing" is vague and idealistic because people have different interpretations of what the right thing is.

And where do you begin to make the change? The laws themselves are written fairly I would argue to apply to all citizens. So then what is the proposed solution? For all I know the USA jails so many people because it has the most effective goddamn law enforcement in the world.

On June 16 2016 10:22 Plansix wrote:

No. It's because we have a broken for profit prison system that makes money based on the number of inmates. And laws that encourages jail time for nonviolent crimes. It's a well documented problem.

And once again, we jail a larger percentage of our population than oppressive dictatorships.

Even in Europe, the territory with the most positive views on the subject is the one that has fared the worst the last twenty years.

On June 16 2016 10:19 gsgfdf wrote:

A bit late to the show. First of all, if any government official wanted me to burn something, be it the Quran or the latest issue of New York Times, I would seriously question their mental stability. The whole idea makes zero sense. That's my main objection, not being an asshole is a distant second.
Regarding the graphs that point to the acceptance of suicide bombing, does anyone else notice that the more unstable a country is the more desperate people become? Are we really questioning why a Palestinian or an Afghan is more likely to blow himself up than a Bosnian? Even in Europe, the territory with the most positive views on the subject is the one that has fared the worst the last twenty years.

On June 16 2016 10:15 GreenHorizons wrote:


And the words themselves are almost irrelevant.

We could have just one law in this country

1. Do the right thing

What makes it racist or misogynist, or whatever is it's implementation. It's a fine line to walk between trying to be better informed and intentionally obfuscating the issue. Though obviously there have been plenty of outright racist laws that got us here in the first place.