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On June 03 2016 01:44 ticklishmusic wrote:
Also Elizabeth Holmes is a fraud. I expect people will start suing her soon.

On June 03 2016 01:58 Plansix wrote:
All the stories I hear about SV relate to them driving up all the prices in SF and making it unlivable for the natives of the city. And tech bros bitching about the fact that the Bart is past is lifespan and needs to be updated. And homeless people. Apparently if you make a lot of money, homeless people should go away.

On June 03 2016 02:40 Plansix wrote:
Yeah, having worked in probation, even the bad people that you talk about are normally mentally ill or have drug problems. There are almost zero cases of people being homeless just because they are lazy.

On June 02 2016 17:55 zeo wrote:

Well there is a transcript, and the last few minutes are the run-of-the-mill catchphrases, buzzwords, false causes and strawmans you would expect.

Googleing the names of those people on the panel made my morning I laughed so hard. Thanks for this.

When Donald Trump comes to Cleveland this summer to claim the Republican nomination, he’ll do it an eight-minute drive away from the George V. Voinovich Bridge. He’ll be eight minutes in the other direction from Voinovich Atrium at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and just a few minutes farther from Voinovich Bicentennial Park.

But as of now, Trump will be without the backing of George Voinovich himself, the former Ohio governor and senator —and one of the state’s favorite Republican sons — who has yet to throw his support behind the presumptive GOP nominee.

Trump’s swing-state trouble isn’t limited to Voinovich. While national Republican leaders have largely gotten on board, a host of key establishment figures in Ohio and Florida — including current Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former Gov. Bob Taft, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Florida Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Carlos Curbelo and other influential Latino leaders in Florida — are still refusing to get behind the GOP nominee.

“He has, over the campaign, talked about lots of things, and what he’s talked about in his solutions to these things have raised a lot of eyebrows,” said Voinovich, counting himself as one of what he described as many Ohioans who have serious concerns about Trump’s plans for everything from the debt to international alliances. “I mean, the point is, people are dismayed at some of the stuff.”

He went on to add, “He’s got a lot of work to do between now and the election to reach out, not only to Republicans, but to independents who have serious questions about whether he’s able to get the job done.”

A lack of establishment support didn’t slow Trump in the primary, as Trump got very few big-name endorsements but won handily anyway. But even if establishment figures sway only small numbers of voters, recent history demonstrates that small margins can make a big difference. When George W. Bush beat John Kerry in Ohio in 2004, the last time the state went Republican, he did it by just over 100,000 votes. And when Bush was declared Florida’s victor over Al Gore in 2000, the margin was so tight that some Democrats are still arguing over the result 16 years later.

The challenge for Trump is starkly apparent in Ohio, where insufficient Republican turnout in 2012 (and robust Democratic turnout) helped President Barack Obama romp to victory over Mitt Romney, even though Romney won independents in the state.

On June 03 2016 04:24 Introvert wrote:
I must say, I'm surprised Ryan held out as long as he did.

On June 03 2016 04:59 puerk wrote:
Has the House GOP announced a new agenda already? Because "do nothing but express repeatedly and staunchly to be against anything that can be vaguely associated with obama" for sure won't cut it as an agenda once a new president is voted in.