US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3557

On April 06 2016 10:29 On_Slaught wrote:
Well, I'd at least expect Sanders to have a better grasp over the issues he's spent the last 25 years making a fuss about.

The fact he doesn't even know if his objectives are doable is part of the problem. The inherent lack of pragmatism in the Sanders campaign will be a huge blow to progressive/socialist supporters should be be the nominee/president.

On April 06 2016 10:20 travis wrote:
Are you guys fucking kidding me with that Sanders interview? The interviewer was an asshole. What, is Bernie Sanders supposed to literally fucking know everything? Do you think any of the other candidates could continually give answers to those questions? There is no way they could, because you have to be an absolute expert on these topics. Which is why the president HIRES A STAFF OF EXPERTS. I mean, it's not like he's busy or anything. But sure, he should know policy and law inside out regarding every major change he proposes. Why would he do that? Seriously, can someone explain why he should spend all of his time (that he doesn't have) studying the details of these laws so that he can recite them in interviews?


The reality is, Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who won't bullshit and will just say "I don't know" or "I don't know that yet". Just because he isn't able to recite the details of every major change he proposes doesn't mean they aren't possible. WTF, honestly. That's infuriating.



What is with this "we need to know exactly how he's going to do everything he says he wants to do" shit? What is the point of it? What if it's not even possible *at this moment*? Does that change his campaign? No, that doesn't change his campaign at all, because something not being possible right now does not mean it won't be possible in the future.

Like, I understand if you don't agree with his policies or whatever. But critically think rather than being purposely shitty. He doesn't need to be able to recite the details of how everything is possible right now, even if that was feasible. He is proposing huge changes. But people know that, and they attack it because they are trying to be shitty and tear him down.

On April 06 2016 10:36 On_Slaught wrote:
Looks like Sanders is on pace to meet his 538 benchmark of 16pts. Dunno about which districts are in though.

On April 06 2016 10:33 Plansix wrote:

As much as I think people are over playing how much Sanders "failed", I was surprised he couldn't name a single specific crime or fraud committed by banks in 2007.

On April 06 2016 10:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/717526804018257920

That means Trump has secured 3 delegates, can get another 9.

On April 06 2016 10:32 travis wrote:


Anything is doable.. I think Sanders knows that. But I am pretty sure step 1 of his plan right now is *actually get elected*.

On April 06 2016 10:36 On_Slaught wrote:
Looks like Sanders is on pace to meet his 538 benchmark of 16pts. Dunno about which districts are in though.

On April 06 2016 10:43 travis wrote:


That doesn't really matter to me. It might matter if I thought he was running against people who had reasonable moral views and aren't corrupt. But I don't think that is the case so the other details don't even really matter much. I don't want to vote for people who aren't motivated primarily by serving the general good. And unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be too many people.

I just felt there were so many things going wrong with the country. In particular, because I’m a very natural person when it comes to business, I assume — I mean, I’ve done really well, and I do have an instinct for that — and I felt that we were doing some of the worst trade deals ever. And then you look at what’s going on in Iran with the beginning of negotiations of that disastrous deal. You know, look, it could’ve been a much better deal, Bob. They could’ve walked a couple of times. They could’ve doubled the sanctions for a couple of days and gotten the prisoners out early. They could’ve done so many things. To give the $150 billion back was terrible. So it was a terrible deal. It was a terrible negotiation. It was negotiated by people that are poor negotiators against great negotiators. Persians being great negotiators, okay? It’s one of those things. You might be Persian. But the Iranians, frankly, are great negotiators. The deal was a disaster. But I would see so many things. And it would make me angry.

BW: What made you angriest?

DT: I would say in my case, more than anything else, the stupidity of the trade deals that we have with China, with Japan, with Mexico, with other . . . . Because that’s something that I see. And I didn’t know that it would hit such a chord, because it’s hit a chord with a lot of . . . .

BW: So when did you tell somebody in your family or your circle, "I’ve decided to run." Other words, I’ve pulled the switch.

DT: Well, I would tell my family about it all the time. Don is one of my sons, and doing a really good job. He’s involved very much in this job. . . . Don and my family, I would talk about it a lot. I would say, "I can’t believe they’re doing it." And another thing would happen. I own a big part of the Bank of America building in San Francisco [and] 1290 Avenue of the Americas. I got it from China. Meaning Chinese people had it. It was a big thing. It was a war, it was actually a war.

BW: Did anyone recommend no? Did your wife, or did your son?

DT: Oh. Yeah.

BW: Did anyone say, "Dad, Donald, don’t do it?"

DT: I think my wife would much have preferred that I didn’t do it. She’s a very private person. She was a very, very successful — very, very successful model. She made a tremendous amount of money and had great success and dealt at the . . . .

BW: What’d she say?

DT: She was, she said, we have such a great life. "Why do you want to do this?" She was . . . .

BW: And what’d you say?

DT: I said, "I sort of have to do it, I think. I really have to do it." Because it’s something I’d be — I could do such a great job. I really wanted to give something back. I don’t want to act overly generous, but I really wanted to give something back.

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On April 06 2016 10:53 Nyxisto wrote:
Because we all know if Trump says something then it must be true lol

What are the chances of the candidate being decided at the convention after tonight?

On April 06 2016 10:53 Nyxisto wrote:
Because we all know if Trump says something then it must be true lol

What are the chances of the candidate being decided at the convention after tonight?