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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 18 2016 03:29 GMT
#59001
Most Democratic and Republican voters in six crucial election-year states agree that the U.S. criminal justice system locks up too many nonviolent offenders and does too little to help them once they get out, according to poll results released Wednesday.

The survey by the Justice Action Network (JAN), a Washington, D.C.-based criminal justice reform group, found consistent support for softening sentencing practices, drug laws and the way criminal records affect people after they serve their time.

To produce the survey, JAN said it partnered with the The Tarrance Group, a Republican polling firm, to ensure GOP politicians on the campaign trail and Capitol Hill are aware of the results.

“This poll shows that criminal justice reform is not just smart policy, it’s also smart politics,” said JAN Executive Director Holly Harris. “Members on the Hill shouldn’t be afraid of voting for reform. They should be afraid of voting against it.”

About two-thirds of voters — polled by phone in mid-January in Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Kentucky, Missouri and Wisconsin — said the criminal justice system is unjust and too costly. Harris says she was surprised by the high levels of bipartisan support for reform. Pollsters spoke to 500 people in each state but Florida, where they interviewed 600.

The study directed questions to a representative sample of ages, demographic groups and political affiliations in each state, a JAM representative said.

Harris said there is also broad support for reform among JAN members, which include rights and fiscal responsibility advocacy groups on the left and right. Many Republicans want to see prison populations drop because mass incarceration costs taxpayers billions each year, Harris said, adding that many Democrats argue that that poor and minority populations are jailed at higher rates than white people, often for nonviolent offenses.


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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 18 2016 03:40 GMT
#59002
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrational hillary personality hate'
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 18 2016 03:43 GMT
#59003
You make it sound like irrational hatred is always bad.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 18 2016 03:43 GMT
#59004
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8519 Posts
February 18 2016 03:49 GMT
#59005
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

where the republican primary is basically the GOP imploding disguised as a shit show, the DEMs are actually making an effort in having a real competition of ideas and where the party(/country?) is headed.

find it highly interesting that xdaunt is basically posting kind of harmless anti hillary stuff - the grass might not be as green after all "on the other side I guess" ^^
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 03:53:14
February 18 2016 03:52 GMT
#59006
On February 18 2016 12:49 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

where the republican primary is basically the GOP imploding disguised as a shit show, the DEMs are actually making an effort in having a real competition of ideas and where the party(/country?) is headed.

find it highly interesting that xdaunt is basically posting kind of harmless anti hillary stuff - the grass might not be as green after all "on the other side I guess" ^^


Hillary is getting overtaken by Bernie Sanders more and more as days goes on though.

So your point is moot.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 03:54:46
February 18 2016 03:53 GMT
#59007
I wouldn't be so sure about that. let's just wait and see.

// if my point is moot - then you have no point.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 18 2016 03:55 GMT
#59008
Mootness is all.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 18 2016 04:00 GMT
#59009
On February 18 2016 12:53 Doublemint wrote:
I wouldn't be so sure about that. let's just wait and see.

// if my point is moot - then you have no point.


No my point is that you are wrong to think that Hillary is gaining any more public support.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 18 2016 04:21 GMT
#59010
On February 18 2016 12:49 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

But she's having trouble beating Sanders? When her nomination should have been a formality?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 18 2016 04:24 GMT
#59011
Sanders is probably the hardest person she'll have to beat in the whole election
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 18 2016 04:29 GMT
#59012
On February 18 2016 13:24 Nyxisto wrote:
Sanders is probably the hardest person she'll have to beat in the whole election


Maybe Hillary won't even win against Sanders.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 04:37:33
February 18 2016 04:33 GMT
#59013
On February 18 2016 13:21 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 12:49 Doublemint wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

But she's having trouble beating Sanders? When her nomination should have been a formality?


you yourself said it best, this election season is far from ordinary. this is just another example. trump & bernie - fueled by rage and disappointment.

//

more on the fbi vs. apple case:

sundar pichai(google ceo) kind of agrees with tim cook
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
February 18 2016 04:56 GMT
#59014
On February 18 2016 13:33 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 13:21 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:49 Doublemint wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

But she's having trouble beating Sanders? When her nomination should have been a formality?


you yourself said it best, this election season is far from ordinary. this is just another example. trump & bernie - fueled by rage and disappointment.

//

more on the fbi vs. apple case:

sundar pichai(google ceo) kind of agrees with tim cook


ACLU is on apple's side too. Basically saying that China would use it to say companies couldn't sell in their country without a similar ability.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 18 2016 04:58 GMT
#59015
this is stuff that need not be publicized.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 05:04:10
February 18 2016 05:02 GMT
#59016
On February 18 2016 13:56 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 13:33 Doublemint wrote:
On February 18 2016 13:21 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:49 Doublemint wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 18 2016 12:40 oneofthem wrote:
you guys realize im just baiting for posts that display the desired 'irrationalhillary personality hate'

And the problem with this premise is that you posit that the personality hate is "irrational." She's earned it. As I have been saying all along, she is not a gifted politician. Never has been. Never will be.


and yet, her star is far from waning

But she's having trouble beating Sanders? When her nomination should have been a formality?


you yourself said it best, this election season is far from ordinary. this is just another example. trump & bernie - fueled by rage and disappointment.

//

more on the fbi vs. apple case:

sundar pichai(google ceo) kind of agrees with tim cook


ACLU is on apple's side too. Basically saying that China would use it to say companies couldn't sell in their country without a similar ability.


yup. I now can say that - after remembering the significance of case law as well - that I too am on apple's side. feds don't just want the key to the phones in the bernadino case, what they are asking is the equivalent of a master key to all (i)phones in circulation.

which is just crazy.

//

On February 18 2016 13:58 oneofthem wrote:
this is stuff that need not be publicized.


this is exactly the kind of thing that needs the utmost attention. not sure about you, but I like the 4th amendment(and continental europe's equivalent).
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 18 2016 05:07 GMT
#59017
I am still conflicted. I think the judge should amend the order to Apple is required to unlock the phone, but not required to share the key with the FBI, and they should control it. Its weird that they are able to withhold information/access, but I can't deny a search warrant for my house.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 05:13:18
February 18 2016 05:10 GMT
#59018
On February 18 2016 14:07 Plansix wrote:
I am still conflicted. I think the judge should amend the order to Apple is required to unlock the phone, but not required to share the key with the FBI, and they should control it. Its weird that they are able to withhold information/access, but I can't deny a search warrant for my house.


it just goes to show that laws have not kept up with the demands of a new, and rapidly changing technological environment. and special interest has their finger in the pie as well.

// found this while browsing around the topic a bit.

quite the fetching read.

https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/pubrelease/dont-panic/Dont_Panic_Making_Progress_on_Going_Dark_Debate.pdf
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
February 18 2016 05:12 GMT
#59019
On February 18 2016 14:07 Plansix wrote:
I am still conflicted. I think the judge should amend the order to Apple is required to unlock the phone, but not required to share the key with the FBI, and they should control it. Its weird that they are able to withhold information/access, but I can't deny a search warrant for my house.


Being a multi-billion multi-national comes with it's perks. That and all they can do is compel them to do it under penalty of the law, it's not like they can use a battering ram.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 05:46:52
February 18 2016 05:32 GMT
#59020
hey corporations are people too, dont be mean. they just happen to be extremely wealthy and powerful and dont come out of vaginas.
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