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On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them.
Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership".
National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact).
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On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source
Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one.
Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support.
On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact).
Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists.
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On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists.
I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership.
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On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership.
What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't?
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On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't?
I'm not imagining anything.
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On March 07 2015 06:20 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't? I'm not imagining anything.
So you are completely clueless? Meaning you have no idea why?
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Maybe people are just busy, there's a lot of stuff to do after all.
When is the event anyways? The link didnt' seem clear on when the event was.
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On March 07 2015 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:20 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... GOP leaders to skip Selma event
Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks don’t include a single member of House Republican leadership — a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.
None of the top leaders — House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy or Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who was once thought likely to attend to atone for reports that he once spoke before a white supremacist group — will be in Selma for the three-day event that commemorates the 1965 march and the violence that protesters faced at the hands of white police officers. A number of rank-and-file Republicans have been aggressively lobbying their colleagues to attend, and several black lawmakers concurred.
Story Continued Below
“It is very disappointing that not a single Republican leader sees the value in participating in this 50th commemoration of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. I had hoped that some of the leadership would attend, but apparently none of them will,” said Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina. “The Republicans always talk about trying to change their brand and be more appealing to minority folks and be in touch with the interests of African-Americans. This is very disappointing.”
Former CBC Chair Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) agreed.
“Not only do they have an opportunity to participate in something that is historic in this country, but certainly they’ve lost an opportunity to show the American people that they care,” she said. “Their loss.”
SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't? I'm not imagining anything. So you are completely clueless? Meaning you have no idea why?
I do not have psychic powers, if that's what you're asking.
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On March 07 2015 06:30 zlefin wrote:
Maybe people are just busy, there's a lot of stuff to do after all.
When is the event anyways? The link didnt' seem clear on when the event was.
Well it's a 50 year anniversary so it's not like it snuck up on them. If they are busy, it's with something they thought was more important to attend. I'm not sure that's the road they want to go down in explaining their absence. On March 07 2015 06:31 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:20 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote:See I must of missed this effort to reach out to the black community from Republicans.... [quote] SourceIt's impressively disturbing. I mean Mitch McConnell was of voting age at the time the damn law was passed. Republican's leadership is pathetic (something both sides agree on, although for different reasons). If they went you'd say: You can't just slap a black face on shitty policy and think that's "Trying".... That mentality is paper thin and seen right through. Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't? I'm not imagining anything. So you are completely clueless? Meaning you have no idea why? I do not have psychic powers, if that's what you're asking.
Yes jonny obviously I'm asking if you have psychic powers....
Or maybe I'm asking why you think leadership isn't going, but a couple dozen republicans are?
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This makes my blood boil.
At the time of their accidents, Jeremy Lewis was 27, Josh Potter 25.
The men lived within 75 miles of each other. Both were married with two children about the same age. Both even had tattoos of their children's names.
Their injuries, suffered on the job at Southern industrial plants, were remarkably similar, too. Each man lost a portion of his left arm in a machinery accident.
After that, though, their paths couldn't have diverged more sharply: Lewis received just $45,000 in workers' compensation for the loss of his arm. Potter was awarded benefits that could surpass $740,000 over his lifetime.
The reason: Lewis lived and worked in Alabama, which has the nation's lowest workers' comp benefits for amputations. Potter had the comparative good fortune of losing his arm across the border in Georgia, which is far more generous when it comes to such catastrophic injuries.
This disparity grimly illustrates the geographic lottery that governs compensation for workplace injuries in America. Congress allows each state to determine its own benefits, with no federal minimums, so workers who live across state lines from each other can experience entirely different outcomes for identical injuries.
Nearly every state has what's known as a "schedule of benefits" that divides up the body like an Angus beef chart.
Workers are awarded a portion of their wages up to the state maximum for the specified number of weeks assigned to each body part. But depending on those numbers, the final amounts can vary widely.
The loss of an arm, for example, is worth up to $48,840 in Alabama, $193,950 in Ohio and $439,858 in Illinois. The big toe ranges from $6,090 in California to $90,401.88 in Oregon. Some states even put a value on the loss of a testicle.
While these benefit tables are just one part of a larger workers' comp system, they provide a vivid picture of the wildly divergent, sometimes nonsensical patchwork of laws that enrages employers and employees alike.
"What's the difference? You lose your leg, it don't matter where you lose it," said Eric Bennett, whose insurer says he's only entitled to the Alabama max of $44,000 for the leg he lost at a fertilizer mill. "It should be the same. A leg is a leg."
The calculus of such losses can be dehumanizing. One worker at a Jasper, Alabama, sawmill lost her thumb and every finger save her pinkie when her hand was dragged through the rusty gears of a scrap wood conveyor. But instead of paying the larger sum for her entire hand, the mill's insurer has offered her only the benefits for each individual finger.
Given their profound impact on people's lives, how much compensation workers get for traumatic injuries seems like it would be the product of years of study, combining medical wisdom and economic analysis. But in reality, the amounts are often the result of political expediency, sometimes based on bargains struck decades ago.
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States' rights! States' rights!
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It's a commemoration, lots of pretty speeches, not so much forward looking work to be done though. While I agree it might have been poltically useful to show up, it's hardly necessary.
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On March 07 2015 06:35 zlefin wrote:
It's a commemoration, lots of pretty speeches, not so much forward looking work to be done though. While I agree it might have been poltically useful to show up, it's hardly necessary.
That thought process is exactly why Republicans will get so few black votes. They'll waste time and money fruitlessly voting dozens of times and fighting to take away black peoples (along with millions of others) healthcare but can't find the importance in showing black people they care about/respect their struggles.
Republicans still see the race relation issue ("The dress") as white and gold and act as if it was white and gold in real life despite a litany of contrary evidence.
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On March 07 2015 06:32 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:30 zlefin wrote:
Maybe people are just busy, there's a lot of stuff to do after all.
When is the event anyways? The link didnt' seem clear on when the event was. Well it's a 50 year anniversary so it's not like it snuck up on them. If they are busy, it's with something they thought was more important to attend. I'm not sure that's the road they want to go down in explaining their absence. Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:31 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:20 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:13 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
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If they went you'd say:
[quote] Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police. Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't? I'm not imagining anything. So you are completely clueless? Meaning you have no idea why? I do not have psychic powers, if that's what you're asking. Yes jonny obviously I'm asking if you have psychic powers.... Or maybe I'm asking why you think leadership isn't going, but a couple dozen republicans are?
What's the point of speculating why? They obviously decided they had other things to do. The DHS shutdown as averted just the other day and going is little more than symbolic. The majority of people from Congress, both D's and R's aren't going. Why is this even a big deal? I can't recall you harping on the importance of this event before Politico decided to make it a talking point.
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On March 07 2015 06:34 farvacola wrote:
States' rights! States' rights!
Glorious government! Glorious government!
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That workers comp thing sounds stupid, I'd fire/arrest the idiots who set the values so divergently. We have enough good actuaries in this country to figure out the correct value for such things, so use them.
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On March 07 2015 06:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:30 zlefin wrote:
Maybe people are just busy, there's a lot of stuff to do after all.
When is the event anyways? The link didnt' seem clear on when the event was. Well it's a 50 year anniversary so it's not like it snuck up on them. If they are busy, it's with something they thought was more important to attend. I'm not sure that's the road they want to go down in explaining their absence. On March 07 2015 06:31 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:20 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 06:09 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 07 2015 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The Department of Justice is getting ready to bring corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) over allegedly using his position to help a Democratic donor's business interests in exchange for gifts, CNN reported on Friday.
A formal announcement about the charges is expected to come "within weeks," according to CNN.
Citing anonymous sources who were "briefed on the case," CNN said Attorney General Eric Holder had approved prosecutors' request to charge Menendez.
The donor at the center of the charges, according to CNN, is Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist in Florida who's been a friend and supporter of Menendez for years. Source Must be a Jersey thing lol. I'd bet politicians commit crimes at a higher rate than the rest of the population but face incarceration at a significantly lower one. Political corruption would be another area where Republicans could put their money where their mouth is and gain wide support. On March 07 2015 05:34 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On March 07 2015 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
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Well that's actually something totally different. Going to Selma isn't a policy issue although it would be a good place for Republicans to reveal their plan to stop the abuse of Americans at the hands of the police.
Going to Selma is about showing reverence. Their absence shows their lack of it for those that fought for the rights the constitution (Republicans claim to hold so dear) was supposed to guarantee them. Republicans are going to Selma, just not the ephemeral "leadership". National lawmakers can mainly huff, puff and do little about Ferguson. To the extent that the Federal government can intervene, the DOJ has the authority. So it's in Obama's court and so far he's done nothing that I couldn't do in an hour (demonstrate disparate impact). Kudos to the Republicans bucking leadership and showing up! As for people like Scalise, this isn't helping his defense of intentionally appealing to white supremacists. I didn't read anything that suggested they bucked the leadership. What explanation are you imagining for why so few Republicans are showing up and leadership isn't? I'm not imagining anything. So you are completely clueless? Meaning you have no idea why? I do not have psychic powers, if that's what you're asking. Yes jonny obviously I'm asking if you have psychic powers.... Or maybe I'm asking why you think leadership isn't going, but a couple dozen republicans are? What's the point of speculating why? They obviously decided they had other things to do. The DHS shutdown as averted just the other day and going is little more than symbolic. The majority of people from Congress, both D's and R's aren't going. Why is this even a big deal? I can't recall you harping on the importance of this event before Politico decided to make it a talking point.
How was I supposed to know they weren't going until it was reported?
"They obviously decided they had other things to do" is the whole point.
"Why is this a big deal?" I don't know Jonny... Why is the 4th of July a big deal?
On March 07 2015 06:49 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Glorious small government! Glorious small government!
fixed that for you.
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On March 07 2015 06:34 farvacola wrote:
States' rights! States' rights!
We haven't even had the first leftist suggest states be made to pay x dollars for y injury. Let's wait for that fellow and his idea of legislative or fiat power affecting workers compensation claims.
I haven't even seen a public opinion poll of Alabama residents on the issue.
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