US Politics Mega-thread - Page 10009

On March 04 2018 08:27 Sermokala wrote:

No that was just the end of the idea. He explained he could pay the national debt off in a few years like that.

On March 04 2018 08:40 WolfintheSheep wrote:
I was just trying to figure out how it made sense, but I guess that's Trump-consistency sense as opposed to actual sense.

On March 04 2018 08:47 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/natemcdermott/status/969621755496161282
This is injustice.

On March 04 2018 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:
I read the full story hoping that at least there would be some kind of silver lining like a minor wrist slap for the officers involved, which would obviously be insufficient but better than nothing. But not even that... There's a chance something like that happened and it never became public but come on, you want to tell people that you put those officers on leave for a while or something like that

On March 04 2018 08:51 GreenHorizons wrote:


Does the fact that the cops involved in this conspiracy to cover a crime (and frame an innocent person) still have jobs indicate to you this is a incredibly pervasive problem, not a few bad apples?

EDIT: Also serves as a great illustration that driving is a privilege that the government can take away without any just cause.

On March 04 2018 09:02 Danglars wrote:

An incredibly pervasive problem of juries and police management

We always differed about whether or not it's more about police corruption or additionally police targeting of blacks.

On March 04 2018 09:10 GreenHorizons wrote:


There's no argument, one look at NYC's stop and frisk data shows anyone with eyes that they are disproportionately and illegally targeting black people.

I'm pretty sure if we go back we don't find that you endorse the idea that corruption (this has nothing to do with a jury) was a pervasive and corrosive problem in PD's across the country. Pretty sure you were more of a:

"Don't let the bad apples stain the credibility of police around the country."

kinda guy.

But as a group that highly values justice and law I expect a surge of folks on the right to speak up about this and call for punishment and reform. /s

On March 04 2018 09:16 Danglars wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're letting your black activism act as a standin for ignoring the points of agreement you might have with others in the forum. And if this forum proves anything, it's that ignorance promotes misunderstanding. In my neck of the woods, that's known as linking people not "down for the struggle" to all sorts of evils-by-proxy.

On March 04 2018 09:25 Danglars wrote:

Nice try. Your members didn't accept the deal your union negotiated with the government, and now you're trying to flip it around and say it's the government's fall for reneging on the plan the union members would not stop the strike to accept.

It's the teacher's demands against the government, and this union figurehead is trying to act like she wasn't completely sidelined in this process lol

On March 04 2018 09:18 GreenHorizons wrote:


Was that supposed to be a response to what I said? I know you quoted it, but that's a non sequitur.

If you're looking for praise for having the slightest bit of intellectual consistency (only to be washed away with a comment like this) you're barking up the wrong tree.

On March 04 2018 09:28 micronesia wrote:
I was not aware that {CC}StealthBlue is a member of the West Virginia teachers' union, such that he is a representative of that side in the dispute and its members. If not, what exactly are the sides here?