EPTRush[Pain] = Bibiane ? - Page 3
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mca64[KDV]
Poland463 Posts
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Mazur
Poland480 Posts
And what about zimp, from what I know he's really good at what he's doing, but dose it mean that he cant be wrong ? Never ever? Imho your biggest mistake was the answer to mca ' bibane is not rush and stop spaming about it'. From what I saw you didnt post any contrevidence, only words ' bibane didnt play for rush PERIOD' and with out any evidence. Now I dont see any other option then have them play with each other or check their autorep. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:16 Mazur wrote: Eywa you write like tl.net would be the only bw site there, there are othere places where players (mb not B/B+ ) are active. And what about zimp, from what I know he's really good at what he's doing, but dose it mean that he cant be wrong ? Never ever? Imho your biggest mistake was the answer to mca ' bibane is not rush and stop spaming about it'. From what I saw you didnt post any contrevidence, only words ' bibane didnt play for rush PERIOD' and with out any evidence. Now I dont see any other option then have them play with each other or check their autorep. Not gonna quote Kiante's post, but it's virtually saying the same thing, except with my name instead of Eywa's. Gecko's first post really defines this thread. He analyzed 2 replays. There is no need for the ASL organization to dig up logs, replays, and other materials and then create screenshots revolving around the various replays which, by the way, have them having no similar apm in the same matchups. That's a lot of work for a very poor claim. Edit: To point out the other major flaw here, he not only analyzed a couple of replays, but then followed it up by saying that he's watched and analyzed -in private- (exactly what I am saying ASL did) a large number of replays, yet specifically targetted limited replays where they look alike. This is clearly an infallible coincidence. | ||
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mca64[KDV]
Poland463 Posts
4 replays used for screenshots | ||
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Mazur
Poland480 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6978 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:25 Mazur wrote: For the transparency of the tour they should do it. Preper an analyze together with reps to show they are right and mca is wrong. i think with the type of answer that the organizers give in the forum is more than clear they dont care about mca. so this will be ignored | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:25 Mazur wrote: For the transparency of the tour they should do it. Preper an analyze together with reps to show they are right and mca is wrong. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I don't think it's necessary at all. If a claim as weak as this was taken to court in a first world country it would be automatically dismissed. I'd like to think that the BW community is first world. However, if this claim actually had enough sustenance to warrant painstaking efforts by the organization, I'd be willing to bet my entire life's savings that it would happen. Edit: For my real life comparison, this would be a photoshopped, video edited YouTube 9/11 conspiracy video regarding smoke or something. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:28 Game wrote: Obviously this is just my opinion, but I don't think it's necessary at all. If a claim as weak as this was taken to court in a first world country it would be automatically dismissed. I'd like to think that the BW community is first world. However, if this claim actually had enough sustenance to warrant painstaking efforts by the organization, I'd be willing to bet my entire life's savings that it would happen. Edit: For my real life comparison, this would be a photoshopped, video edited YouTube 9/11 conspiracy video regarding smoke or something. Lol. this isn't court. it's a forum. you have a dude with some evidence and you're trying to refute it by saying 'well i went and looked at shit earlier' why bother refuting if you dont care enough to show us why you're refuting. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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Game
3191 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:30 Kiante wrote: Lol. this isn't court. it's a forum. you have a dude with some evidence and you're trying to refute it by saying 'well i went and looked at shit earlier' why bother refuting if you dont care enough to show us why you're refuting. In that case, I'm done. I was defending it because of the idiotic nature of the post, if you're actually concerned. | ||
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GeckoVOD
Germany814 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:21 Game wrote: Gecko's first post really defines this thread. He analyzed 2 replays. I didn't. He said he downloaded more, and I was interested in how he came to his conclusion, method wise. If he actually admitted to have only two replays, I wouldn't bother to read on. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10726 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:32 Game wrote: In that case, I'm done. I was defending it because of the idiotic nature of the post, if you're actually concerned. lol, there was absolutely nothing idiotic about mca64's posts, I am actually amazed at his attention to detail with the analyzation of these replays, anyone who has looked over replays constantly in BWChart, BWHF, and other replays analyzers, would understand that he is correct, the patterns are absolutely like finger prints, and for them to be practically exactly the same...the possibility of that happening is bassically a million to one, unless they are of course just sharing ID's and that is one of the other playing on both accounts. But like others have said, the 2 players just need to play each other, then check hotkeys, or other various methods of proofs. I just don't really understand why Eywa and Game are so hellbent on getting this thread closed, I feel like there is something being hidden here to be honest. Maybe you are right game, it does seem like a conspiracy. | ||
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dsaqwe.
Croatia274 Posts
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Mazur
Poland480 Posts
First, whats Rushes aka? There are us less and less each year and I really dont recall that nick so where did he play before, and I would like some reps too check them. Next The admins should show their analyze of bibane and rushes reps and that would be evrything. The only thing I saw here is "LOL im Eywa, I say that bibiane didnt play for rush and some other ppl will say I write the truth" Just support your statement with some reps and similar stuff too mca and there wont be a problem. Becouse acting like this is only showing that you are not serius and you lie about wanting to get more ppl to play bw and ppl to play more bw. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
why do they mind it all so much if they KNOW its not bibane. it is mca doing all the work, not the asl so why would they mind it? i don't see any harm to let him investigate and do hes work when it cost no rescources on the asl side? game said that he only used like 4 for the analizes, althou that might be true, how many of those games is he forced to use hes normal replays??? since if 90% of them are fake anyway why bother even counting them and getting them into the analize? all thou apm can be quite fishy, i think the best way is to look at fpv is thats possable (if seen something like bwtv orsomething that could do that) and there are tons of programs that you can see a list in which order the actions where performed, so that might be usefull to use aswell. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10726 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:41 dsaqwe. wrote: any1 with little brain can see from hotkeys that hotkeys ar not same ;; ... I don't understand, they look identical to me, can you explain please? | ||
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dsaqwe.
Croatia274 Posts
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mca64[KDV]
Poland463 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:52 dsaqwe. wrote: at the begging of game rush hotkey CC: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0, and bibiane not, and for rax rush uses. 4,5,6, bibiane 4 only ... there ar some more, but those 2 ar obv ;; very smart change for smurfing, you shouldnt also smurfing with such changed hotkyes  | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6978 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:52 dsaqwe. wrote: at the begging of game rush hotkey CC: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0, and bibiane not, and for rax rush uses. 4,5,6, bibiane 4 only ... there ar some more, but those 2 ar obv ;; lol | ||
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dsaqwe.
Croatia274 Posts
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