On September 01 2012 02:04 dr.shrinker wrote: In my opinion the problem is not who RUSH is or isn't - it's the fact that he is clearly way too good for this tournament compared to both fellow participants and rank-wise - at least if he bothered playing 50~ games on ICCUP. Takes some of the fun away both from participants, viewers and even organizers I'd assume. Of course this adds some tension and drama which I would normally be found of, but in this case it's morel like .. meh, he'll just stomp his way to first place anyway - wonder who comes second.
I told Shimy after the ladder stage not to allow Rush to play, because I watched some of his replays and he really looked like a B-/B ranked terran to me. I even told Shimy that Rush will win the tournament -.- But he wouldn't listen, so i quit the CAT because i didn't want to give my name for Rush's legitimized win.
This - for me - says everything. I do not care that Shimy let him play and I do not jugde his decision at all, but letting him in for the second time is a bit over given his play in the last ASL. I do not know how much time people have spent watching replays, but I believe zimp is one of those who has most experience when it comes to this. If he says that this guy looks like a B-/B terran it probably has something to it.
Anyway, I'm still looking forward to playing this and I hope someone can cheese Rush out of this tournament. Nothing personal to you, Rush, but this would give people a fighting chance at winning this instead of having a predetermined winner.
yup, don't understand why people don't give this more atantion.
On September 01 2012 02:25 hacklebeast wrote: Eywa, this is an organizational issue. You are not allowed to have an opinion. Please leave so we who actually can talk about it can have a conversation.
That's another opinion. As an organizer you can't see what everyone else can see and therefor they know more than you do. You are not allowed to have an opinion.
On September 01 2012 03:39 dRaW wrote: lol this thread is win, you can read from page 9 and not miss anything since you guys are just repeating the same things over and over.
so i will comment zimp opinion. I thought that he will agree with me, write im not sure or denny with solid arguments. He denied... withs these arguments: " 1) if he really wanted to do that, he would have changed it more, and
2) i asked around canadian koreans and someone told me he knows them personally and they are different people, who play together."
ad 1)
or maybe he isnt too smart and like Romad write : "This can be a misleading thought. When Koreans tried to change their pattern on iccup they changed only 1-2 keys, simply thinking it would be enough to trick everybody."
On August 30 2012 04:27 Qeet wrote: i like how rush has his factory hotkeyed to 456 but only spams 45 for like a minute and never uses 56 after that again also in both replays the hotkey 3 for the cc is never used again at ~12minutes despite not being used for something else
i added some notable things to the picture that are very unusual for a player to use other than smurfing or similarities
i'd really like some replays of them to be sure
ad 2) cmon asking koreans player, who are proablly freind of him? and maybe its was Bizzy? and whats this have common with smurfing? They can be diffrent ppl and so what?
these is the only arguments what zimp has for tellin Bibane wasnt played for Rush... im disapointed by him...
On September 01 2012 03:39 dRaW wrote: lol this thread is win, you can read from page 9 and not miss anything since you guys are just repeating the same things over and over.
personally I thought the second half of page 6 + all of page 7 were the parts most worth reading
On September 01 2012 03:39 dRaW wrote: lol this thread is win, you can read from page 9 and not miss anything since you guys are just repeating the same things over and over.
personally I thought the second half of page 6 + all of page 7 were the parts most worth reading
hahahaha best posts ever i read here, on tl, especially lumix's post
ontopic: so we have to contradiction story's of their real lives what basicly gives all the motives why he is or not bibiane...... well....... zimp good luck mate
On September 01 2012 02:04 dr.shrinker wrote: In my opinion the problem is not who RUSH is or isn't - it's the fact that he is clearly way too good for this tournament compared to both fellow participants and rank-wise - at least if he bothered playing 50~ games on ICCUP. Takes some of the fun away both from participants, viewers and even organizers I'd assume. Of course this adds some tension and drama which I would normally be found of, but in this case it's morel like .. meh, he'll just stomp his way to first place anyway - wonder who comes second.
I told Shimy after the ladder stage not to allow Rush to play, because I watched some of his replays and he really looked like a B-/B ranked terran to me. I even told Shimy that Rush will win the tournament -.- But he wouldn't listen, so i quit the CAT because i didn't want to give my name for Rush's legitimized win.
This - for me - says everything. I do not care that Shimy let him play and I do not jugde his decision at all, but letting him in for the second time is a bit over given his play in the last ASL. I do not know how much time people have spent watching replays, but I believe zimp is one of those who has most experience when it comes to this. If he says that this guy looks like a B-/B terran it probably has something to it.
Anyway, I'm still looking forward to playing this and I hope someone can cheese Rush out of this tournament. Nothing personal to you, Rush, but this would give people a fighting chance at winning this instead of having a predetermined winner.
Zimp was right, RuSh isn't playing in ASL2. I had a decent discussion with him last night, he decided not to play because he was being flamed by so many people.
Wow this is pretty sad actually. A tournament that's presumably won by the best player but at the same time has a cap as to how good people can be is inherently retardedtricky. If the organisers want to attempt it anyway that's on their heads, and any participant subscribing to their idea should know what he's in for. Taking any subsequent frustration out on the players is just wrong. Dunno who this is about but they should be ashamed of themselves.
Power. Power issues. A guy exprimes his concernes and all others can do is accuse him? in Italy we are very used to this type of politics.
This is a power issue. So the question is this: DO you love broodwar? or do you love power? one of these will be strongest.
I sugjest for the good of the communty, to love Broodwar. Love it.
Power gets to peoples heads. I' ve seen it before, and i will see it in the future.
Since right now our community is producing a lot in response of whats going on with the Korean pro scene, please,
put aside personal issues and lets all work togheter towards a better future
And if someone did something wrong, accept it, and don' t try and push the issue and say by words you are right.
You will gain more respect from people admitting you where wrong and moving on that trying at all costs to say you are a saint and have done nothing wrong.
PLEASE, for the love of Broodwar, accept, move on and show us what an organized correctly tournament can be.
i will ask again if Rush is not guilty why he wouldnt just a post a one replay? Bibiane dont care, but Rush care cause he left asl2, feel attacked by others, so he should post a replay and if they will have the same hk etc i will apologize! until Rush or Bibane will not post a replay from 2v2 or Rush vs Bibiane its mean only that Bibane played for Rush in ASL. Ok I done in this topic, my patience has its limits on such obvious matters. I posted my argumets, which im sure for 99,999%, its their buisness to proves me and Others are wrong by uploading replay. Admins should get this replay...
On September 01 2012 04:30 mca64[KDV] wrote: i will ask again if Rush is not guilty why he wouldnt just a post a one replay? Bibiane dont care, but Rush care cause he left asl2, feel attacked by others, so he should post a replay and if they will have the same hk etc i will apologize! until Rush or Bibane will not post a replay from 2v2 or Rush vs Bibiane its mean only that Bibane played for Rush in ASL. Ok I finished in this topic. Admins should get this replay...
On September 01 2012 04:30 mca64[KDV] wrote: i will ask again if Rush is not guilty why he wouldnt just a post a one replay? Bibiane dont care, but Rush care cause he left asl2, feel attacked by others, so he should post a replay and if they will have the same hk etc i will apologize! until Rush or Bibane will not post a replay from 2v2 or Rush vs Bibiane its mean only that Bibane played for Rush in ASL. Ok I finished in this topic. Admins should get this replay...
Actually, RuSh played the ASL games without the help of Bibiane unless you can prove otherwise. This is the idea of evidence and proof. It's YOUR job to prove otherwise. Not their job to prove they have not.
On September 01 2012 04:30 mca64[KDV] wrote: until Rush or Bibane will not post a replay from 2v2 or Rush vs Bibiane its mean only that Bibane played for Rush in ASL
Actually, if they don't post it, it only means that they didn't post it.
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