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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 17 2012 18:03 GMT
#541
On August 18 2012 00:48 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 00:45 xPabt wrote:
On August 18 2012 00:09 Herect wrote:
Cons:

- You can't make 20 of it at same time, and, plus, it takes some factory time (you could be building BHs).
- It'll have to burrow before attacks, so it can't be used in a normal battle with the bio/mechball.
- It doesn't have a uniform AoE damage. Something like the Seeker Missile. It'll probalby stacks, but the damge will fall considerably with the radius.
- It'll break Deathballs just like banes.



That's a con??


I think he means "break" in the sense that it'll make them too strong. Imagine a mech Deathball surrounded by Mines. Wtf do you even do against that?

Use recall to punish the terrans positioning. You trade zealots for mines. Take out mines with range units with observers. Storm everything. Zealot bombing etc etc.

Things like this made PvT in Brood War so epic and fun to play.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#542
On August 18 2012 02:11 Zergrusher wrote:
Blizzard better be ready to read my feedback because honestly after dealing with seeing other RTS franchises die because of stupid designs

they better listen.


hahah you made my day D
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
perser84
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany399 Posts
August 17 2012 18:07 GMT
#543
so nobody has beta so far
Signus
Profile Joined February 2009
United States269 Posts
August 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#544
I'm sure Blizzard will announce when Beta actually goes up, all we have for now is this statement. There's not much point in keeping it secret, after all.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 17 2012 18:15 GMT
#545
On August 18 2012 03:07 perser84 wrote:
so nobody has beta so far

I think that public beta isn't out yet.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ItWhoSpeaks
Profile Joined September 2010
United States362 Posts
August 17 2012 18:19 GMT
#546
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.
Reflection and Respect.
Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
August 17 2012 18:21 GMT
#547
On August 18 2012 03:05 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:11 Zergrusher wrote:
Blizzard better be ready to read my feedback because honestly after dealing with seeing other RTS franchises die because of stupid designs

they better listen.


hahah you made my day D




well concidering how i understand how dustin designs his games and have done plenty of research.

Also the fact that they never tend to do directly address problems.


such as infestors funguls root.

or how because blinding clould only effecting bio..... will do nothing against the mech balls and toss deathballs that are soo damn common in HOTS right now.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
August 17 2012 18:21 GMT
#548
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.


God now I want Browder suddenly discovers that he is my long time abandoned brother
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 18:26:45
August 17 2012 18:23 GMT
#549
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement for HoTS Beta)
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
August 17 2012 18:27 GMT
#550
On August 18 2012 03:23 Shade_CsT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement)



NDA is in effect if its only private in blizzard testing.

NormandyBoy
Profile Joined May 2010
France200 Posts
August 17 2012 18:36 GMT
#551
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

Does that mean that you're not a friend of your friends ?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 18:42:29
August 17 2012 18:38 GMT
#552
Friends and family has in fact recieved keyes, i don't know if they are playing yet though, and since it's nda no one is allowed to talk about it anyways.

The really great part about this is that f&f usually only starts a few days before beta is open to everyone, so expect beta in max a week.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
August 17 2012 18:40 GMT
#553
On August 18 2012 03:23 Shade_CsT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement for HoTS Beta)

Happened before on world of warcraft, they can test the game but under NDA, that's why it may sound as a mere "theory", but blizz tends to do this.
Barackopala
Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
August 17 2012 18:41 GMT
#554
On August 18 2012 03:40 WilDMousE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:23 Shade_CsT wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement for HoTS Beta)

Happened before on world of warcraft, they can test the game but under NDA, that's why it may sound as a mere "theory", but blizz tends to do this.



the alpha of WOL was all hush hush
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13404 Posts
August 17 2012 18:42 GMT
#555
On August 18 2012 03:40 WilDMousE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:23 Shade_CsT wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement for HoTS Beta)

Happened before on world of warcraft, they can test the game but under NDA, that's why it may sound as a mere "theory", but blizz tends to do this.


If it under NDa and someone gets screenshots, they will be given to some sort of seedy nobody likes them new source.

...

Im gonna be checking Rakaka daily

StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
August 17 2012 18:48 GMT
#556
On August 18 2012 03:01 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:53 Snowbear wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 Snowbear wrote:
It's blizzard. They will nerf OP things.

I know, I am following that logic, but I am not convinced. Currently Widow Mine doesn't cost a lot, 75/25, but it prevents Muta harass completely, which is retarded. There is no sane Zerg that will trade Mutas that are 100/100 for Widow Mines, and currently Widow Mine does 200 damage to single target unit, and they even BUFFED that damage...

We will see, but I hope for more diversity, not less.


Please stop whining before the game is even in beta. If it's OP then blizzard WILL NERF IT. Ghost snipe was OP so blizzard nerfed it. Tanks were OP so blizzard nerfed them. Reapers were OP so blizzard nerfed them.

I got the feeling that blizzard will remove the splash damage from the mines. Reason? Drops. Low level players will lose their whole mineral line by 4 dropped mines. Even pro's miss drops somethimes.



Really? I was under the impression that Blizzard buffs/Nerfs according to the outcrys of outspoken groups. After all thats why the ghost/infestor were nerfed as much as they were followed by buffs to units like the Queen/Phoenix right?


Blizzard nerfs things because of:
1) pro player feedback
2) stats
3) they watch tournaments themselves.

Ghosts were too powerful, every kid could see this. Infestors: same case. Now creep is spreading too fast, and blizzard nerfs it. Ravens miss something, so blizzard makes them faster.

I don't say that blizzard is always right with their nerfs, but most of the time they actually are.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 17 2012 18:53 GMT
#557
On August 18 2012 03:42 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:40 WilDMousE wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:23 Shade_CsT wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

What do you mean exactly ?
Has the beta (even F&F) started ? Or are they still asking Friends & Family Battle.net e-mails to then send the first invites once the beta starts ?

If the beta had started (even with very few people in it) I think we would know it already, we would see screenshots & infos (I don't think there will be Non Disclosure Agreement for HoTS Beta)

Happened before on world of warcraft, they can test the game but under NDA, that's why it may sound as a mere "theory", but blizz tends to do this.


If it under NDa and someone gets screenshots, they will be given to some sort of seedy nobody likes them new source.

...

Im gonna be checking Rakaka daily



I would not be suprised if some "neutral", non-competitive professionals, like artosis and Day9, already access to the beta in some way or have been consulted. They are much more in tune with what could be broken or could point out things Blizzard should look out for. I think it is more likley than pros, who seem to have a bad habit of leaking stuff or running their mouth.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 17 2012 18:55 GMT
#558
On August 18 2012 03:36 NormandyBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:19 ItWhoSpeaks wrote:
According to my friends in the industry, it is friends and family only atm.

Does that mean that you're not a friend of your friends ?


Must not be .

Hm time to look up some employee blizzards to get me in.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 17 2012 18:55 GMT
#559
On August 18 2012 03:48 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:01 Energizer wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:53 Snowbear wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 Snowbear wrote:
It's blizzard. They will nerf OP things.

I know, I am following that logic, but I am not convinced. Currently Widow Mine doesn't cost a lot, 75/25, but it prevents Muta harass completely, which is retarded. There is no sane Zerg that will trade Mutas that are 100/100 for Widow Mines, and currently Widow Mine does 200 damage to single target unit, and they even BUFFED that damage...

We will see, but I hope for more diversity, not less.


Please stop whining before the game is even in beta. If it's OP then blizzard WILL NERF IT. Ghost snipe was OP so blizzard nerfed it. Tanks were OP so blizzard nerfed them. Reapers were OP so blizzard nerfed them.

I got the feeling that blizzard will remove the splash damage from the mines. Reason? Drops. Low level players will lose their whole mineral line by 4 dropped mines. Even pro's miss drops somethimes.



Really? I was under the impression that Blizzard buffs/Nerfs according to the outcrys of outspoken groups. After all thats why the ghost/infestor were nerfed as much as they were followed by buffs to units like the Queen/Phoenix right?


Blizzard nerfs things because of:
1) pro player feedback
2) stats
3) they watch tournaments themselves.

Ghosts were too powerful, every kid could see this. Infestors: same case. Now creep is spreading too fast, and blizzard nerfs it. Ravens miss something, so blizzard makes them faster.

I don't say that blizzard is always right with their nerfs, but most of the time they actually are.


I love it when Snowbear posts, because I normally agree with him. Blizzard has done a good job with balance and reacted well to most issues. They are not perfect, but who is(beyond Taeja, that is).
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
August 17 2012 19:40 GMT
#560
On August 18 2012 03:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:48 Snowbear wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:01 Energizer wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:53 Snowbear wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 Snowbear wrote:
It's blizzard. They will nerf OP things.

I know, I am following that logic, but I am not convinced. Currently Widow Mine doesn't cost a lot, 75/25, but it prevents Muta harass completely, which is retarded. There is no sane Zerg that will trade Mutas that are 100/100 for Widow Mines, and currently Widow Mine does 200 damage to single target unit, and they even BUFFED that damage...

We will see, but I hope for more diversity, not less.


Please stop whining before the game is even in beta. If it's OP then blizzard WILL NERF IT. Ghost snipe was OP so blizzard nerfed it. Tanks were OP so blizzard nerfed them. Reapers were OP so blizzard nerfed them.

I got the feeling that blizzard will remove the splash damage from the mines. Reason? Drops. Low level players will lose their whole mineral line by 4 dropped mines. Even pro's miss drops somethimes.



Really? I was under the impression that Blizzard buffs/Nerfs according to the outcrys of outspoken groups. After all thats why the ghost/infestor were nerfed as much as they were followed by buffs to units like the Queen/Phoenix right?


Blizzard nerfs things because of:
1) pro player feedback
2) stats
3) they watch tournaments themselves.

Ghosts were too powerful, every kid could see this. Infestors: same case. Now creep is spreading too fast, and blizzard nerfs it. Ravens miss something, so blizzard makes them faster.

I don't say that blizzard is always right with their nerfs, but most of the time they actually are.


I love it when Snowbear posts, because I normally agree with him. Blizzard has done a good job with balance and reacted well to most issues. They are not perfect, but who is(beyond Taeja, that is).



Funguls rooting has to be changed to a slowing spell(still rooting Blink stalkers) for the greater good of SC2

and if zergs AA has problems they can always Unnerf the 2 nerfs the hydralisk got.
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