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affinity_12
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 13:43:53
July 06 2012 13:43 GMT
#81
On July 06 2012 21:19 Wrecken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 18:02 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 17:45 Wrecken wrote:
This tv will no be worth it. Black levels will be absolute shit on this thing, which is the most important aspect of picture quaility. That alone is a deal breaker

And as for OLED tvs , they won't really be viable for a few years until they work out its problems. Also, the Samsung and LG OLED being released this year have a targer msrp of around 10k, and that is unacceptable for a a mear 55" screen, and considering they are pretty unreliable in longevity, it will be a waste for this 1st gen. Until they work it out, the discontinued 2008/9 Pioneer KURO 9G will still remain the king of televisions.


Your lack of knowledge about TV displays makes me cringe.

Have you been living under a rock?

I actually am studying to become a professional tv calibrator and know quite a few famous people in the home theater business. The number one and most important aspect of picture quality is the black level of you tv. A deep inky black brings pop and realness to anything in the screen. The second most important aspect is color accuracy, followed by motion resolution. Hell I currently own the Sharp Elite, which cost 7500$ and is almost as good as the Pioneer 500krpm, but not quite. The only tvs I can even recomment today that can come close to the hailed Pioneer Kuro is the Panasonic vt50, for its .002 measured black level and 99% color accuracy, and then the Sharp Elite, which I own, because of its .0004 black level reading, superb black to white contrast and fairly accurate color accuracy. The only thing that will be better will be OLED since they can measure infinite black, which is unheard of right now.


Do you have any understanding of this new Samsung TV? It has much better color quality than those TVs you mentioned because it's $17,000. Come on, it's $17K for a reason.
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 13:51:17
July 06 2012 13:50 GMT
#82
On July 06 2012 20:34 Liman wrote:
Do i get that girl with TV ? :D




Yes, this is what you look like and its not very witty...
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 14:00:41
July 06 2012 13:53 GMT
#83
On July 06 2012 22:43 affinity_12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:19 Wrecken wrote:
On July 06 2012 18:02 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 17:45 Wrecken wrote:
This tv will no be worth it. Black levels will be absolute shit on this thing, which is the most important aspect of picture quaility. That alone is a deal breaker

And as for OLED tvs , they won't really be viable for a few years until they work out its problems. Also, the Samsung and LG OLED being released this year have a targer msrp of around 10k, and that is unacceptable for a a mear 55" screen, and considering they are pretty unreliable in longevity, it will be a waste for this 1st gen. Until they work it out, the discontinued 2008/9 Pioneer KURO 9G will still remain the king of televisions.


Your lack of knowledge about TV displays makes me cringe.

Have you been living under a rock?

I actually am studying to become a professional tv calibrator and know quite a few famous people in the home theater business. The number one and most important aspect of picture quality is the black level of you tv. A deep inky black brings pop and realness to anything in the screen. The second most important aspect is color accuracy, followed by motion resolution. Hell I currently own the Sharp Elite, which cost 7500$ and is almost as good as the Pioneer 500krpm, but not quite. The only tvs I can even recomment today that can come close to the hailed Pioneer Kuro is the Panasonic vt50, for its .002 measured black level and 99% color accuracy, and then the Sharp Elite, which I own, because of its .0004 black level reading, superb black to white contrast and fairly accurate color accuracy. The only thing that will be better will be OLED since they can measure infinite black, which is unheard of right now.


Do you have any understanding of this new Samsung TV? It has much better color quality than those TVs you mentioned because it's $17,000. Come on, it's $17K for a reason.


Can you clarify what you mean by "better colour quality"? Because I'm not seeing how this will be a major leap over the TVs he has mentioned.

Edit:
- If you mean colour accuracy, perhaps but I doubt it'll be significantly noticeable. You will still calibrate such an expensive screen yourself. At most, I imagine it will track blues and greens better than the current Sharp Elites.
- If you mean colour space coverage, perhaps but this is still a LCD TV at the end of the day. This is not an OLED TV. You don't want wide gamut anyway.
- If you mean black depth, it'll roughly match the TVs he's mentioned. They're all plasma or using local dimming. You won't achieve pure black because it is an LCD TV and not an OLED screen.
affinity_12
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
172 Posts
July 06 2012 14:02 GMT
#84
On July 06 2012 22:53 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 22:43 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:19 Wrecken wrote:
On July 06 2012 18:02 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 17:45 Wrecken wrote:
This tv will no be worth it. Black levels will be absolute shit on this thing, which is the most important aspect of picture quaility. That alone is a deal breaker

And as for OLED tvs , they won't really be viable for a few years until they work out its problems. Also, the Samsung and LG OLED being released this year have a targer msrp of around 10k, and that is unacceptable for a a mear 55" screen, and considering they are pretty unreliable in longevity, it will be a waste for this 1st gen. Until they work it out, the discontinued 2008/9 Pioneer KURO 9G will still remain the king of televisions.


Your lack of knowledge about TV displays makes me cringe.

Have you been living under a rock?

I actually am studying to become a professional tv calibrator and know quite a few famous people in the home theater business. The number one and most important aspect of picture quality is the black level of you tv. A deep inky black brings pop and realness to anything in the screen. The second most important aspect is color accuracy, followed by motion resolution. Hell I currently own the Sharp Elite, which cost 7500$ and is almost as good as the Pioneer 500krpm, but not quite. The only tvs I can even recomment today that can come close to the hailed Pioneer Kuro is the Panasonic vt50, for its .002 measured black level and 99% color accuracy, and then the Sharp Elite, which I own, because of its .0004 black level reading, superb black to white contrast and fairly accurate color accuracy. The only thing that will be better will be OLED since they can measure infinite black, which is unheard of right now.


Do you have any understanding of this new Samsung TV? It has much better color quality than those TVs you mentioned because it's $17,000. Come on, it's $17K for a reason.


Can you clarify what you mean by "better colour quality"? Because I'm not seeing how this will be a major leap over the TVs he has mentioned.

Edit:
- If you mean colour accuracy, perhaps but I doubt it'll be significantly noticeable. You will still calibrate such an expensive screen yourself. At most, I imagine it will track blues and greens better than the current Sharp Elites.
- If you mean colour space coverage, perhaps but this is still a LCD TV at the end of the day. This is not an OLED TV. You don't want wide gamut anyway.
- If you mean black depth, it'll roughly match the TVs he's mentioned. They're all plasma or using local dimming. You won't achieve pure black because it is an LCD TV and not an OLED screen.


Agreed with your points.

The main attraction of this TV is the fact is that it's the thinnest 70 inch+ TV on the market. I would buy this over the Sharp Elites or Pioneer TV's any day.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 14:32:37
July 06 2012 14:04 GMT
#85
So what you're saying is that the $10,000 premium offers no benefits besides the ultra thin bezels? Or am I missing something here? I really think there has to be another catch that they haven't said. To most people who know anything, I doubt they would really spend $17,000 on an LCD TV if the Samsung OLED display is only theoretically $9000.

To be quite honest, if that is the only reason then why not wait for those 50" OLED screens to be released? I don't know how you use your money but $10,000 for thinner bezels does not sound like a sound investment considering that can be put into things that actually improve the experience...like sound or a proper theater room. You can save even more money if you choose Samsung's and Panasonic's 65" plasma TVs which are extremely cheap and have incredible motion performance and black depth.

Edit:
LG's 55" W-OLED TV is only around $8000 which will basically be better in every way but size and perhaps longevity. And you can still use the spare cash for something worthwhile like improving your home theater system or your theater room.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
July 06 2012 14:05 GMT
#86
On July 06 2012 16:22 High[5] wrote:
I bet in the future there will be literal TV paint that you paint onto a wall and it picks up HDTV. o:


That would be sick!
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1483 Posts
July 06 2012 14:08 GMT
#87
Stupid question, if i was rich, ofc i would buy it....
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 14:10:16
July 06 2012 14:09 GMT
#88
Well, quality wise my project set up won't be as nice (but it runs 1080p) and it fills my entire wall... So if I was rich? Maybe I would sub that in instead, but other than that my bigger (perhaps not as sharp) display is fine for me, with addition to the 55inch TV I have in my basement, I doubt though I'd need it.
FoTG fighting!
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
July 06 2012 14:34 GMT
#89
On July 06 2012 22:43 affinity_12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:19 Wrecken wrote:
On July 06 2012 18:02 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 17:45 Wrecken wrote:
This tv will no be worth it. Black levels will be absolute shit on this thing, which is the most important aspect of picture quaility. That alone is a deal breaker

And as for OLED tvs , they won't really be viable for a few years until they work out its problems. Also, the Samsung and LG OLED being released this year have a targer msrp of around 10k, and that is unacceptable for a a mear 55" screen, and considering they are pretty unreliable in longevity, it will be a waste for this 1st gen. Until they work it out, the discontinued 2008/9 Pioneer KURO 9G will still remain the king of televisions.


Your lack of knowledge about TV displays makes me cringe.

Have you been living under a rock?

I actually am studying to become a professional tv calibrator and know quite a few famous people in the home theater business. The number one and most important aspect of picture quality is the black level of you tv. A deep inky black brings pop and realness to anything in the screen. The second most important aspect is color accuracy, followed by motion resolution. Hell I currently own the Sharp Elite, which cost 7500$ and is almost as good as the Pioneer 500krpm, but not quite. The only tvs I can even recomment today that can come close to the hailed Pioneer Kuro is the Panasonic vt50, for its .002 measured black level and 99% color accuracy, and then the Sharp Elite, which I own, because of its .0004 black level reading, superb black to white contrast and fairly accurate color accuracy. The only thing that will be better will be OLED since they can measure infinite black, which is unheard of right now.


Do you have any understanding of this new Samsung TV? It has much better color quality than those TVs you mentioned because it's $17,000. Come on, it's $17K for a reason.

This tv will not track color very well, HELL you could get the Panasonix professional studio tv that is over $20k and even that has worse color accuracy than the Panasonic vt50 which is $3k. You need to know what you are talking about when it comes to this tech. There is even a 2010 Sony LED that is till on sale for $27k and its black level, color accuracy, sreen uniformity, and overall pq is far inferior to my Sharp Elite and especially the vt50.
mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
July 06 2012 14:37 GMT
#90
I saw a 104" in 2007 And can't you really get a 80" in any tv/electronic store these days? but ye def looks nice
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 14:45:17
July 06 2012 14:41 GMT
#91
On July 06 2012 22:53 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 22:43 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:19 Wrecken wrote:
On July 06 2012 18:02 affinity_12 wrote:
On July 06 2012 17:45 Wrecken wrote:
This tv will no be worth it. Black levels will be absolute shit on this thing, which is the most important aspect of picture quaility. That alone is a deal breaker

And as for OLED tvs , they won't really be viable for a few years until they work out its problems. Also, the Samsung and LG OLED being released this year have a targer msrp of around 10k, and that is unacceptable for a a mear 55" screen, and considering they are pretty unreliable in longevity, it will be a waste for this 1st gen. Until they work it out, the discontinued 2008/9 Pioneer KURO 9G will still remain the king of televisions.


Your lack of knowledge about TV displays makes me cringe.

Have you been living under a rock?

I actually am studying to become a professional tv calibrator and know quite a few famous people in the home theater business. The number one and most important aspect of picture quality is the black level of you tv. A deep inky black brings pop and realness to anything in the screen. The second most important aspect is color accuracy, followed by motion resolution. Hell I currently own the Sharp Elite, which cost 7500$ and is almost as good as the Pioneer 500krpm, but not quite. The only tvs I can even recomment today that can come close to the hailed Pioneer Kuro is the Panasonic vt50, for its .002 measured black level and 99% color accuracy, and then the Sharp Elite, which I own, because of its .0004 black level reading, superb black to white contrast and fairly accurate color accuracy. The only thing that will be better will be OLED since they can measure infinite black, which is unheard of right now.

Yup, that is why I am very excited for OLEDs because they measure a true inifinite black level. The Samsung and LG ones coming out this year, rumored September, will not be very relaible though as they are the first of their kind. I am very worries about the Samsung using a blue OLED, which has such a short lifespan.

I think that the 2nd gen Sharp Elite will be the best in pq for 2013, that is if it can track cyan correctly. 4k resolution will be a bonus if it has it, but obviously there will be no content for it. The OLEDs from what I have seen, seem super over saturated in colors, which is clearly not an accurate picture and is more so overblown so people can say, "ohh look at the pretty colors." As for its inifinite black level, it will be impossible to tell it apart from the Sharp Elite, that is unless you have them side by side in a pitch black room, cus even with the Elite there is a slight glow to it.
Do you have any understanding of this new Samsung TV? It has much better color quality than those TVs you mentioned because it's $17,000. Come on, it's $17K for a reason.


Can you clarify what you mean by "better colour quality"? Because I'm not seeing how this will be a major leap over the TVs he has mentioned.

Edit:
- If you mean colour accuracy, perhaps but I doubt it'll be significantly noticeable. You will still calibrate such an expensive screen yourself. At most, I imagine it will track blues and greens better than the current Sharp Elites.
- If you mean colour space coverage, perhaps but this is still a LCD TV at the end of the day. This is not an OLED TV. You don't want wide gamut anyway.
- If you mean black depth, it'll roughly match the TVs he's mentioned. They're all plasma or using local dimming. You won't achieve pure black because it is an LCD TV and not an OLED screen.


The OLEDs seem way to oversaturated, which I am guessing is to just attract ignorant buyers. Its biggest and most astounding feature is true infinite black levels. However, even that won't look much different compared to the Sharp Elite. The only way you will see a difference will be a full field black screen in a 100% dark room, where the Elite will have a slight glow.

If the 2nd gen Elite corrects the cyan error as well as the pushed greens, then it will be the best tv, ever, until OLEDs become more common.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 15:09:37
July 06 2012 15:09 GMT
#92
On July 06 2012 16:07 plasmidghost wrote:
That is seriously cool. I'll buy it when it's less than $1000 in a few years, though.

hahaha First thing that crossed my mind
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
rogzardo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
610 Posts
July 06 2012 15:10 GMT
#93
There have already been 125" TVs for quite somet time, they just cost 80 grand.
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 16:59:58
July 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#94
*Shouts at his 40" LCD*

Why can you not be like the new tv's I see on you!

QQ

Edit - In case that sounds a bit strange, my pc is currently hooked up to my TV so I read this on my TV
Bleh.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
July 06 2012 17:01 GMT
#95
Looks so damn cool! Very futuristic!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 06 2012 17:05 GMT
#96
People discussing the merits of a TV that's obviously not meant for them amuses me.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#97
I'll pick up three of these at least.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
July 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#98
Rekrul would murder the people saying that girl is cute.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
July 06 2012 17:48 GMT
#99
That is a nice piece of art work. I will put that on my wall.
Gokba Alhakel
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
July 06 2012 17:50 GMT
#100
If I had the money, probably yes, however I even if I had the money I do not really care for the smart TV stuff, if a version existed that was only a regular TV then hell yes, all I care for is high resolution, take the "smart TV" away and lower the price a bit
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