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On May 04 2012 20:55 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:16 Lightspeaker wrote:
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Newsflash: This is "real" and this is by definition "professional". Regardless of how BIG e-sports is it is still a professional career. People take it up as their job and make money out of it, that makes it professional.
The scale of the organisation doesn't mean anything. It is still professional. But unless the people involved start acknowledging that and acting appropriately then it isn't going to grow because it will be dismissed as pathetic and childish and the people involved viewed as acting unprofessionally. What does acting professionally even means ? I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company. Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow. Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Wow you got friends that dun mind being called faggot?*clap*
I'm deeply sorry and sad to see in which world you seem to live in.
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If u don't like the shitface (as do I), don't watch him (like me). If you do keep on watching.
Who gives a shit..
I couldn't care less if a buss hit him on the way to a gay bar, so should you, go about your own business and stop writhing stupid shit just to fight over the internet.
I hate myself for opening this thread...
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On May 04 2012 20:49 BXiT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:16 Lightspeaker wrote:On May 04 2012 20:02 matiK23 wrote:
Wow so a few suspension from games in real, physical actual professional sports equates to getting a gamer fired, or forced to resign from his team. When did e-sports get so big that they can afford to do this? Newsflash: This is "real" and this is by definition "professional". Regardless of how BIG e-sports is it is still a professional career. People take it up as their job and make money out of it, that makes it professional. The scale of the organisation doesn't mean anything. It is still professional. But unless the people involved start acknowledging that and acting appropriately then it isn't going to grow because it will be dismissed as pathetic and childish and the people involved viewed as acting unprofessionally. What does acting professionally even means ? I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company. Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow. Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. You should realize something if you look at the country we both are from. It really is not the reason why I can do that, it is mainly because I'm surrounded by cool people, but just try to envision that your values are not universal.
You asked what acting professional meant. You then state that you curse all the time at your work and it's okay. So we asked if you call your boss a nigger, or a faggot, or anything. And you say no, because nigger is too strong and you say faggot only when appropriate. Which means that your work does actually care about your use of language--it simply allows a different vocabulary set than is common. But not that far from common. You still stick to the same rules. You just don't realize that you're following your anthropological guidelines.
It's called acting professional. Only saying and doing things that are socially appropriate to the situations at hand in an attempt to create a socially consistent work place.
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On May 04 2012 20:56 BXiT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:54 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:
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What does acting professionally even means ?
I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company.
Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow.
Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Why would you even bother taking that risk when you could just use any other word? I know black people that don't get insulted by the word nigger, but does that mean I am going to be OK with randomly saying nigger from time to time? Unnecessary. risk. It really not a risk to me. But even then, you call Destiny a racist, try to flame him, for taking a risk you wouldn't ? Even when his opponent didn't gave a shit ? How strange...
Because he has a large audience and is considered a pro-gamer.
It is a big risk, and it is why Quantic got rid of him.
It might not be risky to you -- trying getting Sarkozy to call people faggots or niggers. How far do you think that will get you in the banlieues?
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On May 04 2012 20:53 lorkac wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:40 tomatriedes wrote:On May 04 2012 20:33 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:30 Graviton wrote:On May 04 2012 20:25 Corrosive wrote:On May 04 2012 20:21 Graviton wrote:On May 04 2012 20:20 Corrosive wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 Graviton wrote:On May 04 2012 20:17 Corrosive wrote:On May 04 2012 20:16 Graviton wrote:
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A large amount of people who use nigger as a sort of reference like 'mate'. Does that make it any less racist? Don't use your own inherent homophobic bias to justify a blatant double standard, one that runs rampant through out this community. What the fuck is wrong with you? I simply said that it's more socially acceptable to say faggot than it is to say a racial slur. I'm not homophobic, stop putting words in my mouth. Oh, okay, where you come from it's more socially acceptable, thus less offensive to homosexuals? Jesus Christ. The meaning being blurred makes it no less offensive to some. Put some more words in my mouth, considering i didn't say that. The backlash for saying faggot will be a lot less since it's more socially acceptable. Whether it's less offensive to homosexuals or not is irrelevant. The point is that there is a larger group of people that think saying "faggot" is okay which will make the consequences less severe. Funny, I thought the problem here was that the word could be offensive to some people. The only people who would be offended are (most likely) a portion of homosexuals. a huge amount of people are against using racial slurs, whether they are part of that race or not. This is why the backlash would be greater against destiny (calling an asian an asian racial slur, a huge group find it offensive and complain about it, people within razer/quantic who are complained to find it a big deal) than it would be against warden (calling someone a faggot without knowing whether or not they are homosexual, a tiny group of people find it offensive and complain, sponsors/4k who are complained to find it to be not as big of a deal) It's alright to be bigoted, or not care about said bigotry to the same extent, as long as it's not as big an issue as racism, because that's taboo, but other forms of discrimination are not considered such. Gotcha. lol He's saying it's not okay to be bigoted--but the backlash would be less severe because western society is more homophobic than racist. It's not that he thinks there should be less punishment, he's saying that society would be less likely to be upset since the US is very homophobic and so they are more likely to be okay with homophobic behavior. I Still don't think the word is as acceptable in the US as he seems to think: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6579408http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-04-13/sports/29992409_1_gay-slur-referee-bryant That maybe true--I don't know enough to be able to have an actual stance on this. But it was just funny to watch you two not actually arguing with each other  It sounded like "I think Americans are too homophobic to get upset at the use of faggot" "You're okay with being homophobic!" "I just think Americans are naturally homophobic" "Why should we be homophobic but not racist!" "I don't think we should be either... but America already is homophobic...." "You don't like gay people?" Anyway--just thought I should finally step in to clarify that neither one of you wants for there to be homophobia in society.
Er, that wasn't me, but yeah. I don't think the guy is homophobic- just that he's making the mistake of taking a certain episode of South Park as gospel. 'Faggot' is still an offensive term no matter what Trey and Matt have tried to advocate.
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On May 04 2012 20:54 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:16 Lightspeaker wrote:
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Newsflash: This is "real" and this is by definition "professional". Regardless of how BIG e-sports is it is still a professional career. People take it up as their job and make money out of it, that makes it professional.
The scale of the organisation doesn't mean anything. It is still professional. But unless the people involved start acknowledging that and acting appropriately then it isn't going to grow because it will be dismissed as pathetic and childish and the people involved viewed as acting unprofessionally. What does acting professionally even means ? I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company. Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow. Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Didn't Perez Hilton call will.i.am a faggot? And then he got attacked by will.i.am's MANAGER?
Again, american, different set of mind. I think I already got it that is hurtful for you guys and you like suing to get money. Please don't impose this behavior on internet.
I just want you to realize that it's not that big of a deal for other people. Why don't try to understand them and simplify your world, instead of defending stupid and destructive behavior.
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On May 04 2012 15:52 Parodoxx wrote:
wow man just wow. any other players you guys want to get fired?
My thoughts exactly. This community is a fucking joke.
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On May 04 2012 20:57 BXiT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:55 FakeDeath wrote:On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:
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What does acting professionally even means ?
I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company.
Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow.
Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Wow you got friends that dun mind being called faggot?*clap* I'm deeply sorry and sad to see in which world you seem to live in.
If I burnt a cross on my black friend's yard, and he was okay with it, would it stop being racist?
If I saw strangers burning crosses on my black friend's yard, should I be okay with it just because he's okay when I do it?
Or is it that both actions are racist actions and that he chooses to be bothered by one and not bothered by the other?
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Don't approve of his language choices, but the statement took balls. Every time there's a big incident and a half assed apology comes a few days later from the player/team I just roll my eyes. This damage control technique is so false and I can't believe people eat that shit up.
Props to him for being real I guess.
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On May 04 2012 20:59 adrenaLinG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:56 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:54 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:
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Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Why would you even bother taking that risk when you could just use any other word? I know black people that don't get insulted by the word nigger, but does that mean I am going to be OK with randomly saying nigger from time to time? Unnecessary. risk. It really not a risk to me. But even then, you call Destiny a racist, try to flame him, for taking a risk you wouldn't ? Even when his opponent didn't gave a shit ? How strange... Because he has a large audience and is considered a pro-gamer. It is a big risk, and it is why Quantic got rid of him. It might not be risky to you -- trying getting Sarkozy to call people faggots or niggers. How far do you think that will get you in the banlieues?
Actually he already has insulted random french people in public in front of the media. lol. I'm ashamed to use this guy in an example, but... it's just the truth.
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On May 04 2012 21:00 TheSwamp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 15:52 Parodoxx wrote:
wow man just wow. any other players you guys want to get fired? My thoughts exactly. This community is a fucking joke.
I recall that IdrA is a player that can sometimes be very offensive, think i am going to write 100 letters to the sponsors of EG.
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Wow...i´m supriesed, that i didn´t even said that he never will say things like that again. That´s....well....destiny hasn´t learnd at all, he will say all those things again.
But maybe you can count Quantic as a serious team now?
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Wow, I can't believe this actually turned out like this.
I offer a hearty "fuck you" to all those in the TL community who thought it was a good idea to contact sponsors like Razer directly and complain to them. You are literally killing E-sports.
I hope you all enjoy yourselves are you celebrate this victory of morality over evil, as if you were a group of Christian mothers from Mississippi who managed to get a violent TV show pulled off of the air in order to "protect the children".
For the first time I'm embarrassed to be a member of this site.
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On May 04 2012 21:00 BXiT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 20:54 lolmlg wrote:On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:49 adrenaLinG wrote:On May 04 2012 20:46 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:35 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:29 lorkac wrote:On May 04 2012 20:26 BXiT wrote:On May 04 2012 20:19 Zalithian wrote:On May 04 2012 20:18 BXiT wrote:
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What does acting professionally even means ?
I swear all the time at work, dress like a hobo, but I'm respected because I do good work. Btw, I work in a pretty famous IT company.
Just stop citing common mass mob social behavior as a law of nature that we all have to follow.
Some people still have a free mind, yet... Do you call people niggers for doing a better job than you? Well nigger is a bit strong where I live, but the equivalent of pussy or faggot wouldn't be the first. I guess I work with people with a more mature mind on average that this community. I guess the main difference it is far more easier to guess the correct mind of the people saying these kind of words, irl. The point is just that acting professionally does not really means anything, since it is our acting that define what is it. It's not like it is defined by some superior being we should listen to. So if your boss does a good job you call him a faggot or a pussy? Your boss says "here's a raise" you respond "you're fucktard, go die in a fire gook" Is this the mature minded workplace you work in? Did I say something like that ? Don't write words in my name. It's not unlikely that when somebody point out some weakness of my solutions to a problem, I respond with a gentle faggot. More likely when I'm still right. Maturity is not defined by your langage, but by the awareness you have. The ability you have to understand what somebody really means, the ability to put your attention where is matters. In a way, it's like when we says, Masters know how much they sucks at the game. For me, in term of mind awareness, you seems like a bronzie, unable to understand what I say. Oh so your company does actually care how you curse? You can't simply throw offensive words here and there willy nilly--it has to fit the situation at hand. It's kind of like, you need to keep the language appropriate for the current situation you are in. You don't call your boss who gave you a raise an ass monkey, but you can call your co-worker a faggot, but only when you are in having a lighthearted exchange where you understand yourself as being in the right. I disagree. If your co-worker was gay, he would likely be offended. It'd be the same as calling your co-worker a nigger, no matter how lighthearted you try to make it. People use these words in very offensive, specific contexts. Gay bashers call their victims "faggots" the same way racists call blacks "niggers", and I think you should avoid using them in any workplace context. In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ? Didn't Perez Hilton call will.i.am a faggot? And then he got attacked by will.i.am's MANAGER? Again, american, different set of mind. I think I already got it that is hurtful for you guys and you like suing to get money. Please don't impose this behavior on internet. I just want you to realize that it's not that big of a deal for other people. Why don't try to understand them and simplify your world, instead of defending stupid and destructive behavior.
If it's not that big of deal for other people, Destiny wouldn't have left Quantic and this shitstorm would not have happen.
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I think Destiny has the right to say whatever he wants to say.
I think the approach of the "community" was bigoted, self-righteous and reflects the opposite of what a mature community would be.
I think Razer should have been informed sooner, and they themselves need to be more informed of who they're sponsoring.
I think Quantic should get individuals for their contributions to the scene, or their talents, or their hardwork.
I think there's no reason to lash out on TL moderators for this particular case, coming from someone with a history of bans.
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Hell it's about time.
Being outspoken and be a bad-ass is cool and all, but just know where to draw the line.
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On May 04 2012 20:53 BXiT wrote:
In your place of the word maybe. I've got 2 gay friend who are together and doesn't mind AT ALL (from their mouth) when we call somebody or themself faggot. In the context of playing a game, we consider being part of expression friendly frustration. Why can't you accept that people don't always live like you ?
Emphasis mine.
Go walk into a gay bar in town and start randomly calling people you don't know there faggots. Might be a slightly different response.
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People only try to get players in to serious trouble because they are jealous that they will never be able to get to their level of skill. They think "oh this is a perfect oppertunity to put him into shit so that his pro gaming career will be made tougher!!". People actually get a buzz off of doing that? seriously people need to grow up and stop doing things that are not helping players or esports in the slightest.
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I hope the white knights are happy.
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On May 04 2012 21:03 Xpace wrote:
I think Destiny has the right to say whatever he wants to say.
I think the approach of the "community" was bigoted, self-righteous and reflects the opposite of what a mature community would be.
I think Razer should have been informed sooner, and they themselves need to be more informed of who they're sponsoring.
I think Quantic should get individuals for their contributions to the scene, or their talents, or their hardwork.
I think there's no reason to lash out on TL moderators for this particular case, coming from someone with a history of bans.
Yeah allowing racial slurs like it doesn't mean shit is mature right?
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EPT
