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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#2961
On May 28 2012 19:42 MilesTeg wrote:
A bit unrelated, but I'm getting tired of these pseudo experts and their simplistic view of the game. There's this big fallacy these days, that matchups are the biggest factor going into a series, so it's a good idea to compare each position one by one. Matchups are only really important for ISO guys. Yes, if you don't have any guy tall enough to guard Gasol and Bynum in the low post, you're going to have trouble against LA.

But against Westbrook, Harden and to some extent Durant, who are guys who like to play pick and rolls and come off screens, rotation and bigs are more important than one on one matchups.

Anyway I hope this series is over soon or I will have a heart attack. Especially if the Spurs keep turning it over so damn much!

I don't think anybody took a simplistic approach of saying matchups are everything. It is a big factor, but who knows if it's the biggest or not. And I disagree that matchups are only important for ISO guys. That's just false. Every team runs pick-and-roll (unless you are Carmelo Anthony), but matchups matter because it dictates how much help a defender is going to need off the rotation. It matters because they need to know if they have to double or not each time he gets the ball. Nobody has said that matchups are the most important aspect of a team's defense, which is what you seem to be arguing against. Basketball is a team sport, so obviously rotation off the picks and covering the paint are important. But matchups are important regardless of how much you like to run pick-and-rolls. No need for the pseudo expert jab.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 28 2012 19:56 GMT
#2962
talking about matchups tend to be a offensive thing, not defensively. you look to abuse matchups on offense, and negate matchups on defense. when someone says a team matches up defensively, they aren't talking about one on one defenders, although it is relevant, they tend to be talking about the defensive versatility of a team.


with leonard and green the spurs match up better defensively, as he has a strong body to guard durant, and green can double off sefalosha, with jackson and manu, they match up better offensively, as jacksons mid range and ability to cut are currently at a better nba level than leonard, and manu has fantastic ball handling skills.

its npt a matter of boiling down things to one on one, its about looking at the physical matchup and how having different players on the floor allows you to matchup differently. I mean, this sport is the team sport most effected by matchups, except for maybe a good WR CB battle in the nfl.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 28 2012 23:45 GMT
#2963
Oh yes indeedy! Let's go Heat! Looking forward to this one! Protect the home court!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 28 2012 23:48 GMT
#2964
Celtics about to GET SOME >:D

Miami Heat LET'S GO ^^
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 29 2012 00:10 GMT
#2965
As a Bulls fan the ECF is going to be painful. Hate Rondo, hate Pierce, hate Lebron, hate Alien-Bosh. How is it that every announcer is able to talk about the "key" injuries to the Celtics and Heat without mentioning the Bulls lost 2 of their 3 best players and that those injuries clearly have made the biggest impact on the playoff thus far?
Freeeeeeedom
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 00:14:52
May 29 2012 00:14 GMT
#2966
Sad truth is probably that they're not mentioning Bulls because they're out of the playoffs already because of their injuries, and they aren't even thinking about the Bulls at this point ><
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 29 2012 00:15 GMT
#2967
On May 29 2012 09:10 cLutZ wrote:
As a Bulls fan the ECF is going to be painful. Hate Rondo, hate Pierce, hate Lebron, hate Alien-Bosh. How is it that every announcer is able to talk about the "key" injuries to the Celtics and Heat without mentioning the Bulls lost 2 of their 3 best players and that those injuries clearly have made the biggest impact on the playoff thus far?

Because the Bulls, you know, aren't in this series?
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#2968
On May 28 2012 19:42 MilesTeg wrote:
A bit unrelated, but I'm getting tired of these pseudo experts and their simplistic view of the game. There's this big fallacy these days, that matchups are the biggest factor going into a series, so it's a good idea to compare each position one by one. Matchups are only really important for ISO guys. Yes, if you don't have any guy tall enough to guard Gasol and Bynum in the low post, you're going to have trouble against LA.

But against Westbrook, Harden and to some extent Durant, who are guys who like to play pick and rolls and come off screens, rotation and bigs are more important than one on one matchups.

Anyway I hope this series is over soon or I will have a heart attack. Especially if the Spurs keep turning it over so damn much!


If matchups were the most important factor, then every game in a series would be exactly the same. :p

I know what you mean. I feel like the real playoffs started last night. Hopefully the Boston/Miami series doesn't disappoint.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#2969
hope this turns out to be a good game
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 29 2012 00:38 GMT
#2970
On May 29 2012 09:37 JiYan wrote:
hope this turns out to be a good game


Don't worry about it
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 29 2012 00:46 GMT
#2971
LOL. Did someone saw moving screen foul there by Turiaf? hahaha
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 29 2012 00:48 GMT
#2972
Aww, this is why I personally don't care much for Celtics games sometimes. Yes, both teams have great defenses, but the sheer lack of scoring does make for a boring game in some aspects
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 29 2012 00:53 GMT
#2973
after yesterdays show, this is kind of bleh so far actually
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 29 2012 00:54 GMT
#2974
boring to you maybe....personally games that are a race to 100 are more of a bore, I'd rather not know the winner of the game with 2 minutes remaining. not to mention the okc spurs game was a shitty game, not that it was a bad game, just both teams had the runs.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 01:00:33
May 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#2975
Hey hey, I made that post pretty conciliatory lol, where did I say that only love I love high-flying triple-digit games? I just would like to see some 20-point quarters and some nice back-and-forth scoring action sometimes, not necessarily offensive blowouts from one or both teams (though sometimes those can be beauties to watch).
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 29 2012 01:00 GMT
#2976
On May 29 2012 09:53 JiYan wrote:
after yesterdays show, this is kind of bleh so far actually


It's really up to what kind of style of play you like to watch. Personally i love the D-FENCE and some highlights
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#2977
Woot! Heat playing pretty well
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 29 2012 01:07 GMT
#2978
Celtic's offense not showing up again. Let's hope they improve quickly. Blowout games are so boring.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 29 2012 01:08 GMT
#2979
On May 29 2012 10:07 Telcontar wrote:
Celtic's offense not showing up again. Let's hope they improve quickly. Blowout games are so boring.


Not if your team is winning
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 01:14:54
May 29 2012 01:09 GMT
#2980
On May 29 2012 10:08 Bonzinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 10:07 Telcontar wrote:
Celtic's offense not showing up again. Let's hope they improve quickly. Blowout games are so boring.


Not if your team is winning

Goes without saying.

Ridiculous T even by today's standards. Oh, how the pussification of NBA saddens me.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
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