On April 26 2012 22:52 MDMA_ wrote: lol @ all the "whoever is good @ sc2, was somewhat, somewhere good @ bw or on a bw pro team. If there are top players that didnt play BW they are outliers"
ROFL. how about polt + all the wc3 players doing well?
On April 26 2012 20:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Does not translate straight into SC2: Every SC2 player who was better in BW is a top player. Even if you point at one example where it doesn't apply, in statistics we call that an outlier.
All I'm saying is you're ignorant.
aren't you being ignorant yourself by calling every top level sc2 player who hasnt played bw as "outliers". Basically just a sneaky way of discrediting the game, saying its shit and BW players will stop cuz BW takes skill? thats the message conveyed no?
You need to get your eyes cleaned. There's a difference between "all good BW pros are doing well in SC2" and "all pros doing well in SC2 were also good at BW." It's like the first thing you learn in logic.
YOU need to get your eyes cleared. "Every SC2 player who was better in BW is a top player". Stephano was not a better BW player, nor were any of the wc3 players.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
To begin with, I agree with you. Flash, Bisu and co. won't just land in SC2 scene and beat the shit out of everyone... that's pretty obvious. It will take time until they feel themselves comfortable with the game, then we might see dominance.
In fact, I believe SC2 will chop out their inhuman skills and put them with normal good players like MVP, DRG and etc. The reason has been explained by Day[9] with frisbees and baseballs.
All we can do is to wait, nothing more. While SC2 fans wait anxiously for their scene to be legitimized, BW fans struggle in sorrow because the scene is fading away.
On April 26 2012 23:34 fabiano wrote: What's up mate?
To begin with, I agree with you. Flash, Bisu and co. won't just land in SC2 scene and beat the shit out of everyone... that's pretty obvious. It will take time until they feel themselves comfortable with the game, then we might see dominance.
In fact, I believe SC2 will chop out their inhuman skills and put them with normal good players like MVP, DRG and etc. The reason has been explained by Day[9] with frisbees and baseballs.
All we can do is to wait, nothing more. While SC2 fans wait anxiously for their scene to be legitimized, BW fans struggle in sorrow because the scene is fading away.
I just dont like how a lotta die hard BW fans completely discredit SC2. AFAIK the games really are 2 different games, and the ONLY link is the fucking name "starcarft". As for what you said about BW inhuman skills, i dont think those will be chopped out. For example me personally (not a BW die hard, watched some of it) i would rather see Flash play zerg because i thing those "inhuman" skills can be shown with that race (mechanics pretty much). I wanna see Bisu play Protoss, cuz its fucking broken in sc2 and i really do wanna see his "inhuman" skill, cuz i think with his level of mechanics, skill and strategy he could really make some "inhuman" plays in sc2! I dont really think that bw inhuman skills "disappear" because even though on a metagame level the 2 are completely different, when it comes down to BASICS micro, macro and overall RTS, the skills do transfer over well. In fact, ive always thought if some CHESS GRANDMASTERS (far fetched i know)played bw OR sc2 i wonder how far just "strategy" can take them. In the same way i wonder how far "bw skills" will take bw pros in sc2.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I dare any sc2 professional players to play b05 on any of our proleague map and choose all the maps you want and see if you gets crush by them or not . On another note if kespa was actually that ignorant and actually believe their players are at the capability of gsl fully grown professionals they have right now they would have sent flash,bisu,stork and jaedong to gsl right now . Because after all if they are good in bw they must be good in sc2 ? Nah they ain't doing that they are going to start from the basics letting their player get familiar with the game before setting them out to the wolves out there .
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I dare any sc2 professional players to play b05 on any of our proleague map and choose all the maps you want and see if you gets crush by them or not . On another note if kespa was actually that ignorant and actually believe their players are at the capability of gsl fully grown professionals they have right now they would have sent flash,bisu,stork and jaedong to gsl right now . Because after all if they are good in bw they must be good in sc2 ? Nah they ain't doing that they are going to start from the basics letting their player get familiar with the game before setting them out to the wolves out there .
how is that relevant? the discussion is BW players moving TO sc2, there is no desire for the other way around. sure u can say that bw players would win. IDC, cuz as far as im concerned right now, your gods are coming over to this NEW game not vice versa which means whatever they did in BW DOESNT MATTER because BW is one game and SC2 is ANOTHER. 2 compeltely different games. why try to compare this champion to that champion? true the skills transfer somewhat but until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) BW players are NOT better at SC2 then current SC2 pros.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I dare any sc2 professional players to play b05 on any of our proleague map and choose all the maps you want and see if you gets crush by them or not . On another note if kespa was actually that ignorant and actually believe their players are at the capability of gsl fully grown professionals they have right now they would have sent flash,bisu,stork and jaedong to gsl right now . Because after all if they are good in bw they must be good in sc2 ? Nah they ain't doing that they are going to start from the basics letting their player get familiar with the game before setting them out to the wolves out there .
how is that relevant? the discussion is BW players moving TO sc2, there is no desire for the other way around. sure u can say that bw players would win. IDC, cuz as far as im concerned right now, your gods are coming over to this NEW game not vice versa which means whatever they did in BW DOESNT MATTER because BW is one game and SC2 is ANOTHER. 2 compeltely different games. why try to compare this champion to that champion? true the skills transfer somewhat but until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) BW players are NOT better at SC2 then current SC2 pros.
I don't see the point of you posting caps on your arguments it does not help that the whole paragraph is full of arguments that does not seem to be coherent at all . You say you don't really care and yet you are spending time trying to convinced people that our bw player wont succeed in sc2 .
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded.
Someone make a Conspiracy Bisu about fake statistics please.
I've been watching SC2 again, just to keep up to date.
And what I've seen is that if a stalker gets caught by a marauder with concussive shells, no micro can help you out. If your roaches get caught by FF, no micro can help you out. If your zealots get caught by FG, no micro can help you out.
Where all the micro has gone then? Well, it went to a step before those spells are cast: you have to avoid to be in range of that shit. What does it means? It means less epic micro battles, instead more back and forth army dance where nothing actually happens, and that's one less thing to expectators to find exciting.
Notice that in BW units were microed individually, even in big battles, making it really exciting to the expectator. In SC2 you don't micro a single marauder, you stutter step 15 of them at the same time. This is why the only exciting thing in SC2 is baneling vs marine micro, because you have to spread all your units at once, and not stutter step shit.
Also, as a protoss player, you actually get punished for spreading out your army, you have to keep it all in one single death ball. The warp prism is a great harass helper units, but protoss has no harass units to use, except for the storm drops.
So, where would Bisu use his godly multitasking abilities? The only race I think that he can make use of it is terran with multi drops and marine splitting. In fact, if Bisu gets a hang of SC2 terran, we might see how incredibly broken MMM+stim can be in the hands of the likes like Bisu.
In the end, SC2 has very little space to the players use their superior multitask skills, but there is some at least.
To finish it up, I would like to mention that those Xel'Naga towers must be removed from the game, since they make the games even less exciting for discouraging players to flank.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded.
Someone make a Conspiracy Bisu about fake statistics please.
hey dont misquote me . i love sc2 but i know that in terms of balance and game play it is still lacking. Believe it or not, while i did watch some BW before becoming a sc2 fan, SC2 made me APPRECIATE bw MORE.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I dare any sc2 professional players to play b05 on any of our proleague map and choose all the maps you want and see if you gets crush by them or not . On another note if kespa was actually that ignorant and actually believe their players are at the capability of gsl fully grown professionals they have right now they would have sent flash,bisu,stork and jaedong to gsl right now . Because after all if they are good in bw they must be good in sc2 ? Nah they ain't doing that they are going to start from the basics letting their player get familiar with the game before setting them out to the wolves out there .
how is that relevant? the discussion is BW players moving TO sc2, there is no desire for the other way around. sure u can say that bw players would win. IDC, cuz as far as im concerned right now, your gods are coming over to this NEW game not vice versa which means whatever they did in BW DOESNT MATTER because BW is one game and SC2 is ANOTHER. 2 compeltely different games. why try to compare this champion to that champion? true the skills transfer somewhat but until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) BW players are NOT better at SC2 then current SC2 pros.
I don't see the point of you posting caps on your arguments it does not help that the whole paragraph is full of arguments that does not seem to be coherent at all . You say you don't really care and yet you are spending time trying to convinced people that our bw player wont succeed in sc2 .
Can't wait for your next reply.
as for you, the arguements are all valid. yours are the ones that are incoherent. If you dont see the point of the caps, then you cant read in english, as it is pretty obvious the caps are for emphasis on important points. you tried to argue that if any sc2 player played a bw pro he'd lose regardless of the situation. how is that in any way valid or relevant? we are talking about bw pros moving to sc2 not the other way around. you are exactly what the community does not need die hard bw fan that doesnt know english and spews drama and shit everywhere. NO WHERE did i saw bw players wont succeed in sc2. if u read i even said "until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) ". notice how i said it wouldnt take flash long cuz i know he has the skill to do it. So before you wait for my reply, or type up another reply why dont you learn some fucking english and then reading comprehension while youre at it.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I'm actually fairly certain there's a higher portion of the 'die hard BW fanboys' who think that the top players in BW will be less successful in sc2 due to the nature of starcraft 2. I don't know who you're yelling at, but I struggled to piece together the main points from your posts following this one.
If anything I'd actually say there is a higher percentage of the pure sc2 fans who think that TBLS will revolutionize the scene than BW ones.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded.
Someone make a Conspiracy Bisu about fake statistics please.
hey dont misquote me . i love sc2 but i know that in terms of balance and game play it is still lacking. Believe it or not, while i did watch some BW before becoming a sc2 fan, SC2 made me APPRECIATE bw MORE.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I dare any sc2 professional players to play b05 on any of our proleague map and choose all the maps you want and see if you gets crush by them or not . On another note if kespa was actually that ignorant and actually believe their players are at the capability of gsl fully grown professionals they have right now they would have sent flash,bisu,stork and jaedong to gsl right now . Because after all if they are good in bw they must be good in sc2 ? Nah they ain't doing that they are going to start from the basics letting their player get familiar with the game before setting them out to the wolves out there .
how is that relevant? the discussion is BW players moving TO sc2, there is no desire for the other way around. sure u can say that bw players would win. IDC, cuz as far as im concerned right now, your gods are coming over to this NEW game not vice versa which means whatever they did in BW DOESNT MATTER because BW is one game and SC2 is ANOTHER. 2 compeltely different games. why try to compare this champion to that champion? true the skills transfer somewhat but until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) BW players are NOT better at SC2 then current SC2 pros.
I don't see the point of you posting caps on your arguments it does not help that the whole paragraph is full of arguments that does not seem to be coherent at all . You say you don't really care and yet you are spending time trying to convinced people that our bw player wont succeed in sc2 .
Can't wait for your next reply.
as for you, the arguements are all valid. yours are the ones that are incoherent. If you dont see the point of the caps, then you cant read in english, as it is pretty obvious the caps are for emphasis on important points. you tried to argue that if any sc2 player played a bw pro he'd lose regardless of the situation. how is that in any way valid or relevant? we are talking about bw pros moving to sc2 not the other way around. you are exactly what the community does not need die hard bw fan that doesnt know english. NO WHERE did i saw bw players wont succeed in sc2. if u read i even said "until i SEE flash win 3 GSLs ( this shouldnt take long btw ) ". notice how i said it wouldnt take flash long cuz i know he has the skill to do it. So before you wait for my reply, or type up another reply why dont you learn some fucking english and then reading comprehension while youre at it.
Heh trying to pick at me for having poor english, just look at the way you spell man you can't even spell "you" without it being "U" . Come on kid give it up . Also people don't capitalized every word to get their point across but I guess this is the internet there is no grammar rule in effect here.
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I'm actually fairly certain there's a higher portion of the 'die hard BW fanboys' who think that the top players in BW will be less successful in sc2 due to the nature of starcraft 2. I don't know who you're yelling at, but I struggled to piece together the main points from your posts following this one.
If anything I'd actually say there is a higher percentage of the pure sc2 fans who think that TBLS will revolutionize the scene than BW ones.
hey, im one of those sc2 fans that think TBLS will revolutionize the scene . the thing is,most bw fans are expecting their players to decimate the sc2 immediately. I just dont think this will happen and i personally cant wait to seee bw players play sc2. even if they dont "revolutionize the scene", i just want a higher level of competition which would lead to the metagame changes the balance etc and if BW players ca bring that im all for it.
Heh trying to pick at me for having poor english, just look at the way you spell man you can't even spell "you" without it being "U" . Come on kid give it up . Also people don't capitalized every word to get their point across but I guess this is the internet there is no grammar rule in effect here.
i didnt pick on your english. you told me that my argument was incoherent and didnt make sense which was clearly not the case. in fact you misread what i typed, fired back an angry reply and when i point out your mistakes, you miraculously turn into the grammer police. If you knew english you wouldve read everything properly and not twist my words.
By the way, you are using the word metagame incorrectly.
Metagame is not related to strategies and trends, but to use outside of the game information, like we know IdrA will not cheese, so we don't need to cannon first.
Heh trying to pick at me for having poor english, just look at the way you spell man you can't even spell "you" without it being "U" . Come on kid give it up . Also people don't capitalized every word to get their point across but I guess this is the internet there is no grammar rule in effect here.
i didnt pick on your english. you told me that my argument was incoherent and didnt make sense which was clearly not the case. in fact you misread what i typed, fired back an angry reply and when i point out your mistakes, you miraculously turn into the grammer police. If you knew english you wouldve read everything properly and not twist my words.
It's hard to read your words when they are all jumbled in this kind of for example " sad I AM not HAPPY because Sc2 is GOOD IDC about anything else my words are GOLD" . No offence, but no one stated here that bw pro's will start dominating sc2 right off the bat .
On April 26 2012 17:56 eviltomahawk wrote: For all those Protoss fans, there will always be HoeJJa and KT to cheer for if Bisu ends up betraying his loyalty for Aiur. He will become the first Protoss bonjwa.
This is so awkward to see those icons tied up with those names, feels so wrong.
And guys, for gods sake, ignore the (ignorant part of the) SC2 fellas. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Just let them babble whatever bullshit they want so they can feel they have achieved something.
So, if a retarded SC2 fan makes a retarded post, ignore, if an intelligent SC2 fan makes a post with good points, then we have someone who is actually worth talking to.
have u even watched sc2? the game is completely imbalanced and pretty retarded. this is coming from a "retarded sc2 fan". All that most of the sc2 fans are saying is, the "stomp" wont be instant cuz in SC2 ANY player can lose to ANYONE. Its just the nature of the balance of the game. There are way too many cheeses and its way easier to cheese and win. I like the point that the fellow made about typing fast in one language doesnt meant you can type fast in another. The only skill that translates is typing fast. Theres no doubt the current top S-Class players in BW wont suceed in sc2, it just may take some time. All you BW die hard fanboys just cant accept that your "bw gods" have the potential to lose at the beginning in sc2.
I'm actually fairly certain there's a higher portion of the 'die hard BW fanboys' who think that the top players in BW will be less successful in sc2 due to the nature of starcraft 2. I don't know who you're yelling at, but I struggled to piece together the main points from your posts following this one.
If anything I'd actually say there is a higher percentage of the pure sc2 fans who think that TBLS will revolutionize the scene than BW ones.
hey, im one of those sc2 fans that think TBLS will revolutionize the scene . the thing is,most bw fans are expecting their players to decimate the sc2 immediately. I just dont think this will happen and i personally cant wait to seee bw players play sc2. even if they dont "revolutionize the scene", i just want a higher level of competition which would lead to the metagame changes the balance etc and if BW players ca bring that im all for it.
Not at all, we are expecting the level of work ethic and dedication to a video game that former top tier BW players have shown. Flash got a surgery and endured personal physical and emotional pain just so he can keep playing, a surgery on a condition that was aggravated because he was playing said video game, and he's got the scar to prove it. BW "fanboys" are upset because this isn't just BW players going to play SC2, this is BW becoming irrelevant all together. When Michael Jordan swapped to baseball, Michael Jordan fans were upset, but the level of emotional outburst would have been astronomically higher if Michael Jordan swapped to baseball because baseball was becoming the only professional sport out of basketball and baseball for arbituary financial reasons that the fans dont care about.
I don't know about mkp being the best terran player in sc2 . But if that was flash in broodwar playing versus a Zerg he would be on more bases than just 4 .... 4 freaking saturated bases man .. with that kind of cash flow and the smoke screen you are throwing up with your force on the move you could have at least another 2 more bases making it 6 to keep the war machine producing forever.
On April 27 2012 00:45 Sawamura wrote: I don't know about mkp being the best terran player in sc2 . But if that was flash in broodwar playing versus a Zerg he would be on more bases than just 4 .... 4 freaking saturated bases man .. with that kind of cash flow and the smoke screen you are throwing up with your force on the move you could have at least another 2 more bases making it 6 to keep the war machine producing forever.
SC2 is faster paced, I don't think it's a valid argument since it takes approx 1/2 your max population to fully saturate 4 bases in SC2, and for some races, especially zerg in BW, it could take up to or less than 100 pop of drones to operate optimally on 6.
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) BW players are NOT better at SC2 then current SC2 pros.
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