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The matchups I prefer to watch changed quite a lot over the last months, so I am curious what your preferred matchups are.
PvP made me almost angry a few months ago ( 4gate era), nowadays it is one of my favourites. It feels very strategic, there are many possibilities for creative plays, and a solid chance for late game as well. TvZ on the otherhand did change in the other direction. Not so much the matchup itself, but my perception. Maybe it is because I play P, so I don't have as much insight into those races. I sometimes have a hard time to read who is in the better position at a given moment (unless it's kinda obvious).
What do you like to watch? Did it change over the last months or has it always been like that?
Poll: Your favourite matchup to watch is...?TvZ (373) 53% PvZ (143) 20% PvT (70) 10% TvT (61) 9% PvP (30) 4% ZvZ (22) 3% 699 total votes Your vote: Your favourite matchup to watch is...? (Vote): PvP
(Vote): PvT
(Vote): PvZ
(Vote): TvT
(Vote): TvZ
(Vote): ZvZ
(this is not supposed to be a thread for rants, bashes or balance discussion. it is all about personal taste, there is no right or wrong.)
€dit:
A similar poll has been up in October 2011, if you like to compare.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272494
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It used to be TvZ, but now I begin to like more the PvZ.
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ZvT > ZvP > everything else.
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On February 26 2012 02:11 Cosmos wrote:
It used to be TvZ, but now I begin to like more the PvZ.
I agree with this.
There was a time in beta that PvZ was my favourite match-up to watch, then TvZ took that place and now PvZ is again very entertaining.
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TvZ by far. The rest of the matchups usually end up with deathball vs deathball (especially ZvP). In TvZ there's a lot of multi-pronged attacks/drops and jockeying for position.
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TvZ is just awesome. Muta ling bling vs tank marine is one of the coolest, most dynamic matchups in the game. It's all about positioning and timing, it's not just 2 armies headbutting into each other like a lot of other matchups are.
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Either TvT or ZvZ for me. I usually find anything with protoss to be fairly boring as it just usually involves two large deathballs bashing into eachother.
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Imho TvZ is more developed than the other matchups. It's just a kick-ass MU to watch!
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i like tvz nowadays, it used to be tvp because of all the micro involved, but today its just a big p deathball a click with storm :/
of all the mirror matchups is think tvt is the most interesting by far
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pvp and zvz are very interesting nowadays
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ZvT is simply the best in my eyes :D Such a good match-up in so many ways... the dynamic of large, extremely micro/positioning/control dependent armies like marine/tank and ling/baneling is exhilarating to watch, the tension of burrowed banelings and the excitement of mutalisk harass.
Personally I enjoy ZvT most when it's muta/ling'/baneling against marine/tank/(thor) and goes to a macro game, but things like mech vs. roach/infestor can also be entertaining too, since it's always fun to see just how each player deals with mech (something I've dealt with personally and have always enjoyed, yes I'm a Zerg player, of course.)
But the others are good, too :D To watch, at least. ZvZ is terrible to play, fuck ZvZ.
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TvZ is easily my favorite, but then id have to say TvT is my second. being a protoss it is just so cool to see a game where the armies are beating the hell out of eachother yet it doesnt truely decide the game right then and there!
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HerO PvZ > all other matchups.
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I can't get into TvZ :'(
PvT is for me. I love killing the all ranged race.
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How the hell is PvP above ZvZ?
Personally, anything versus Terran is fun to watch, and ZvT (or TvZ) is probably the best. There's so much going on, dropping, runbys, etc.
And don't even get me started on good baneling hits (which are epic). Or bad baneling hits (which are hilarious)
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It used to be ZvT but then came the blue-flame/random timing era and now it's either that T does damage and wins with drops or the Z rolls over the T with a deathball of bling, infestor, broodlord and ultra. Not fun to watch. Now I'm torn between TvT and ZvZ for best MU, but I feel TvT is more developed still.
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As others have said, along time ago it was PvZ, and it turned to TvZ (once terrans learned the lategame stages and refined mechanics and played smoothly). Now though it is indeed turning back into PvZ I think. The deathball is less common every month and watching players like staphano/drg/coca who have good zvp play are amazing to watch. GSL finals will hopefully prove this
edit: i do love tvt bio vs mech games though when both players play well (depends on maps too, like on taldarim)
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TvZ, then TvT, then ZvZ, all three pretty close.
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TvZ handsdown.
Its the most dynamic matchup. PvZ became pretty much a camping game where both players try to get to the Mothership vs. BL games
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I can agree that TvZ has been one of the most interesting MUs to watch for quite some time. I feel like PvT is a little more interesting than PvZ but I tend to like watching PvZ a lot as it's one of my weaker MUs, both feel a little stagnated though. ZvZ and PvP are about even, although I feel like PvP has been getting a lot more interesting lately now that things are evolving away from 4 gate and Colossus all the time (yay Phoenix builds). TvT feels tedious to me, probably just saw too many really long Tank vs Tank games I should probably force myself to watch some of the more modern TvT and see how the MU has evolved.
Hard to say what's really my favorite as it changes a lot, but I think I might go with PvP as it seems to be one of the MUs most undergoing change right now.
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People say PvZ is boring due to deathball vs deathball. Watch some Liquid'Hero vods. :D
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High level TvT is really entertaining
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PvZ is my favorite match-up to watch - TvZ is probably my second favorite.
I love the craziness between Protoss and Zerg. Only thing I don't like is the Archon Toilet. It is so anti-climatic (everything goes into the vortex and dies -> GG)
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I used to like zvt and pvt but now that i got better at the game it fells like i know the result half way trough the game and the only times i was "surprised" was when someone cheesed/all inned or when someone didn't actually got a mid/early game adv ( which happened rarely ).
Nowadays i enjoy pvz more, tho i might still prefer tvt and tvz if i played T.
That said i rarely watch sc2 nowadays, so i might think otherwise if i watched more tournaments.
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TvZ has always been the jeweled crown of Starcraft matchups. It involves so much history and so much lore. Think of Mengsk vs Kerrigan, Boxer vs Yellow, NaDa vs July, Flash vs Jaedong, Fruitdealer vs Rainbow, MVP vs Nestea, Jjakjji vs Leenock, MMA vs DongRaeGu, Drewbie vs Idra (:
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Terran and zerg players will say TvZ.
Protoss players will say PvZ.
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TvZ is the best by far, far far ahead of PvZ - both of which is in the masters league of entertainment while the others are in gold 
Well, for me at least those two matchups are far more entertaining than the others.
Then again, I am a zerg players so obviously biased.
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OP i would rather see a poll where you could rank the matchups from 1-10 instead of selecting 1 matchup. OT tvz so dynamic.
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PvZ are the matches I find more entertaning regarless if it's early, mid or late game. Althou I still find the others matches are pretty enjoyable (only exceptions beeing TvT and ZvZ*).
* Main reason I found it such a kick to the balls lot's of the games in IEN San Paulo D:
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
TvZ, just like in BW creates the most awesome games and series.
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On February 26 2012 02:31 Bagi wrote:
Terran and zerg players will say TvZ.
Protoss players will say PvZ.
I'm a toss player, but I dont like watching TvZ, because I dont like the lengths zergs have to take, to just deal with a 50 mineral unit. The absurd cost efficiency just disgusts me.
Hopefully the flying snake in HotS will change that.
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I like all non-mirror matchups, but I also like most mirrors. Each matchup is quite unique in my opinion, and they're all worth watching (if the game itself is good enough to watch).
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ZvT > ZvP >TvP > TvT > PvP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZvZ
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TvT followed closely by TvZ. With the exception of Grubby and sometimes Huk I don't really enjoy watching any of the protoss players and protoss match ups. I'm not really sure why, they just don't feel as epic to me I guess? It might just be that protoss is the race that I've personally played the least, but there aren't really any "Ohhhh so sick!" moments in PvX. The thrill of perfect storms or good colossus usage isn't nearly as intense as watching perfect marine splits, siege tank positioning, perfect baneling useage, sick zergling run-bys, amazing muta control, etc.
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TvZ > PvZ > TvT > TvP > ZvZ > PvP
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Voted TvZ, im a toss player.
At pro lvl I think TvZ is by far the best matchup, you can clearly see that these races are "best developed" or whatever you will call it QQ
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PvT > PvP > PvZ > TvT = TvZ = ZvZ
i like watching protoss matchups cause i am protoss
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Tvz for sure, followed by tvp. zvp is third, then tvt, zvz and lastly pvp. However, if more pvps turn out like the whitera vs JYP, this matchup could very possibly raise a lot, that game was one of the best of the tournament ^_^
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United States97276 Posts
TvZ by far. TvT next. then ZvZ. Then all the P matchups
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ZvT > ZvP > ZvZ > TvP = TvT = PvP
I like all the non zerg matchups equally little^^
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On February 26 2012 02:37 PureBalls wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:31 Bagi wrote:
Terran and zerg players will say TvZ.
Protoss players will say PvZ. I'm a toss player, but I dont like watching TvZ, because I dont like the lengths zergs have to take, to just deal with a 50 mineral unit. The absurd cost efficiency just disgusts me. Hopefully the flying snake in HotS will change that.
Then you obviously don't understand the match-up.
No amount of flying snakes will fix that, sadly.
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ZvZ - No, really TvZ or PvZ.
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I actually really like to watch ZvZ and PvP, despite them beeing rather unpopular. The only matchup that I do not like to watch that much is TvT, I guess I saw it too often when terran was really dominant in korea.
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I actually like ZvZ the most, I love watching the little details in the game, all the ling/bling micro, how players read the game, their reactions, timings, etc. I also like how fragile the matchup is, so combacks are quite frequent.
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ZvT>PvZ>PvP>PvT>ZvZ>TvT
As a protoss player I gotta admit that ZvT is better to watch than any P matchup
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ZvT > ZvZ > ZvP > PvT > TvT > PvP
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PvZ*. The brood lord / mothership thing is still not overly common so it's fun to watch, and the amount of weird stuff that happens in this match is amazing.
*Leenock style TvZ is my favorite of all. Baneling bombs everywhere provide so much edge of your seat suspense.
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On February 26 2012 02:42 labbe wrote:
TvZ > PvZ > TvT > TvP > ZvZ > PvP
agree
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TvZ for sure! Everything is just so micro-intensive, from beginning to end!
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i'm actually pretty surprised the poll is so in favor of tvz... i find it kind of boring lol, i like zvp the best personally though
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On February 26 2012 03:05 Elite__ wrote:
i'm actually pretty surprised the poll is so in favor of tvz... i find it kind of boring lol, i like zvp the best personally though
What is boring about it?
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I've always been surprised people don't like ZvZ. It's been my fave matchup both to watch and to play for years! It's maybe because I like aggressive games.
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TvZ uncontested almost all of the other matches bring copious amounts of zzzzzzzzzz's a lot of the time.
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PvZ for sure!
I like some TvZ games, but I find them to be too similar. I feel that in PvZ there is more variety, and mid-late game PvZ (before Mothership) is just so awesome!
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Unless a specific player is playing, or other factors influence the game:
TvZ > TvT > PvZ > PvP > ZvZ > PvT
PvP is getting more fun to watch: it's so tense, so knife-edge and allows for some many amazing micro plays (seriously, JYP vs MC at HSC4 was one of the best series I have ever seen).
Terran matchups apart from PvT are at the top for obvious reasons. PvT is getting LESS fun to watch because Protoss are figuring out that getting a deathball is the best way to win (unless you are MC) and you end up with either 1) blob vs blob stalemate-y conditions followed by one (normally Protoss) rolling over the other, or 2) a cheese/early all-in from one side (normally Terran).
PvZ is also getting more exciting to watch because Protoss are actually attacking without going all-in. Harassment = fun to watch.
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It used to be the old TvT when there used to be a million different strategies you could employ. Now it is definitely ZvT because of how awesome it looks. PvZ can also be good.
And obviously PvP is the worst to watch
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TvP definitely is my favorite when the terran player is dropping constantly and spreading the protoss thin (or vice versa aka Hero V Thorzain game 1 in IPL FC). other than that second favorite is definitely a TvT in which one player is going mech and the other is going bio. So intense!!
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On February 26 2012 02:20 monkybone wrote:
TvT or TvZ, can't decide. They tend to be epic games of positioning and micro, not just roflstompage with huge balls of units.
This basically.
I hate PvZ/PvT lategame... those ball armies are just BS. Protoss overall is the most fucked up race in so many aspects.
Tanks rly help in TvT/TvZ to make positioning and micro rly interesting imo.
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TvZ just watch MMA vs DRG @ Blizz cup :D
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ZvT is the same thing over and over.
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2months ago it was clearly TvZ... but PvZ has gotten so much better lately. Also I kind of like highlevel ZvZ, though only very few players are capable of playing the macro game well without dying to all the aggression all the time.
Also, a well played Bio vs Mech TvT is still just soooo entertaining!
So in conclusion: Still TvZ, but not by a lot anymore.
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I like PvZ since I like both protoss and zerg the most. As well as I know a lot about this match up. There's a ton of different possibilities and plays from both sides.
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Everything but TvP is fine
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pvt late game is so much fun to watch. tvz is also fun, but i feel as if theres not many new exciting parts of the matchup, even after the ghost nerf.
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Anything with a Zerg is dynamic. Protoss is one of the more boring races to play. Terran is mixed xd
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pretty nice poll, same thought tho. TvZ is really agressive, PvZ late game isn't bad.
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Anything with zerg in it really, ZvT at first ofc.
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I don't like TvZ, but I like ZvT.
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since im a protoss player, for its like
1. PvZ
2. PvT
3. TvZ / PvP
5. TvT
6. ZvZ
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I think they are all fairly even, except ZvZ it's by far the most worse matchup.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2012 03:14 SeaSwift wrote:
Unless a specific player is playing, or other factors influence the game:
TvZ > TvT > PvZ > PvP > ZvZ > PvT
PvP is getting more fun to watch: it's so tense, so knife-edge and allows for some many amazing micro plays (seriously, JYP vs MC at HSC4 was one of the best series I have ever seen).
Terran matchups apart from PvT are at the top for obvious reasons. PvT is getting LESS fun to watch because Protoss are figuring out that getting a deathball is the best way to win (unless you are MC) and you end up with either 1) blob vs blob stalemate-y conditions followed by one (normally Protoss) rolling over the other, or 2) a cheese/early all-in from one side (normally Terran).
PvZ is also getting more exciting to watch because Protoss are actually attacking without going all-in. Harassment = fun to watch.
Agree completely. TvZ, TvT, and PvZ are very dynamic, well-developed matchups. PvT is getting to be nearly unwatchable, because, as you said, it's either a 40 minute game with a protoss deathball rolling the terran lategame or a 1-1-1 or other allin from the terran trying to end the game before it gets to that point.
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On February 26 2012 02:17 ClysmiC wrote:
TvZ is just awesome. Muta ling bling vs tank marine is one of the coolest, most dynamic matchups in the game. It's all about positioning and timing, it's not just 2 armies headbutting into each other like a lot of other matchups are.
That's what I don't like about TvZ. It seems that there is no variation.
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TvZ for me, followed by TvT and lastly PvZ.
TvZ and TvT is really interesting from beginning to end, a battle for control in map vision/awareness, favorable terrain, resources etc. Lots of run bys, drops, entertaining flanks, even nukes from time to time. PvZ is entertaining when each tries to do some kind of pressure to the other and then transition into some other forms of attacks and aggressions that are repelled, with the cycle continuing. Unfortunately ZvP sometimes really ends up being a turtle race, not very entertaining.
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TvZ is the most developed/mastered matchup, but I find a REALLY good PvZ is my favorite MU to watch.
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As ZvP is kind of strange but sometimes show so cool strats and here and there a very dynamic fallowup of different timings it runs in second place. But by far the most entertaining is ZvT. PvT is kind of interesting but sometimes its just a little bit to deathballheavy... mirrormatches tend to be much too chessy sometimes funny but most of the time sooo boring and "painfull to watch".
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For me its TvZ > TvT > PvT = PvZ > ZvZ > PvP
Terran bias, plus P is generally pretty boring to watch
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terran or protoss vs zerg for sure
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On February 26 2012 03:38 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 02:17 ClysmiC wrote:
TvZ is just awesome. Muta ling bling vs tank marine is one of the coolest, most dynamic matchups in the game. It's all about positioning and timing, it's not just 2 armies headbutting into each other like a lot of other matchups are. That's what I don't like about TvZ. It seems that there is no variation.
Most zergs go Roach ling bane or Ling infestor now, Muta ling bane is last gen metagame xd
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On February 26 2012 03:42 Ender985 wrote:
For me its TvZ > TvT > PvT = PvZ > ZvZ > PvP
Terran bias, plus P is generally pretty boring to watch
This is the correct order. Protoss is such a boring race.
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TvZ
TvT
ZvZ
PvP
PvZ
PvT
Protoss just isn't interesting at all in star2.
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TvZ by far. And TvT if it's not mech vs mech. Mech V Bio or marine tank vs marine tank are sick ass games.
For me its TvZ > TvT > PvT = PvZ > ZvZ > PvP
Terran bias, plus P is generally pretty boring to watch
I'd agree, except I find PvP interesting because it's actually a non sit on 3 base P game. They warp and micro, and it's fun to watch.
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Great for comparison, I will put it in the OP.
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PvT = PvZ > TvZ = PvP > TvT > ZvZ
But TvZ should be the most entertaining match overall. I only like PvT and PvZ more because I play Protoss. But I can NEVER see ZvZ as entertaining, unless it's like a crazy T3 vs T3 macro game. ZvZ was the reason why I quit zerg...
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People are right in that TvZ isn't as far ahead in front as it used to be.
It's still the best, but PvZ and PvT are not so far behind.
In terms of mirrors, it depends on how much time you have on your hands hah..
TvT is certainly an exciting matchup at times, but you need to set aside an hour and a half for a BO3 
ZvZ can be fun, PvP is improving but still can be dull
imo
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TvZ > TvP > PvZ, My 3 favourite matchups to watch :D
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TvZ no problem. It's the best. Those baneling-MM confrontations?
The suspense as you watch an attempted tank line break?
Alternating drops and muta harass all over the place?
And all the special tactics.
There's nothing like it.
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I like pvz because there are a lot of different options each player has early and mid game. TvT i enjoy watching players try to break eachothers position. I like zvz because its really back and forth
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On February 26 2012 03:51 Horseballs wrote:
TvZ
TvT
ZvZ
PvP
PvZ
PvT
Protoss just isn't interesting at all in star2.
Could not have said it better.
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Why no love for ZvZ and PvP? I think they are the most exciting matchups to watch. There's so much action and it comes very quickly, no waiting like TvT, although perhaps the anticipation is what makes it exciting to people. I just find that it gets tedious after a while and you're waiting for it to end, as opposed to waiting to see the end.
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On February 26 2012 04:09 OtoshimonoU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 03:51 Horseballs wrote:
TvZ
TvT
ZvZ
PvP
PvZ
PvT
Protoss just isn't interesting at all in star2. Could not have said it better.
Definitely could have said it better!
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Would have to go for TvZ, though as many others have said, PvZ have gotten alot more fun to watch lately.
TvT can produce some really cool games too, when it gets to lategame.
But TvZ is and has always been my favorite matchup, both to play and watch!
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everything with zerg, in this order:
zvt > zvz > zvp
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In terms of pure entertainment value, nothing beats massive slug fests and huge groups of things dying, and what's better than fungels, tank splash damage, and mobs of ling/bling/etc breaking a marine/tank line? Strategically I find tvz and tvt fun, because terran can open up in a lot of different ways. But for personal reasons, I like watching tvp because it helps me learn the mu better.
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PvT > PvZ > PvP
Have no interest at all if the matchup doesn't have P, since I play P
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Funny how my opinnion exactly matches this pool.
PvT is still a terrible match up.
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TvZ followed by TvT.
Right now TvP/PvT should be at the BOTTOM of everyones list. It's an absolutely broken piece of mess on both sides.
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TvZ / PvP (if its a long game) are my favorite to watch.
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Closing -> List thread. The replies are only relevant to the person posting them, and it doesn't generate discussion. This is definitely more SC related than most list threads, but again, we generally close these types of threads.
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