EPTWhat if Everyone was Blind - Page 3
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Brett
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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dronefarm
United States260 Posts
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
Heres the IMDB link i enjoyed the movie a lot personally. Blindness IMDB | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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ddrddrddrddr
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Release
United States4397 Posts
In reality, it would be the first person to become mutated with sight would be the one who survived. Natural selection would do the rest. | ||
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
The movie is quite a drama , not many things in it make you feel good. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:03 Saline wrote: This is actually a pretty interesting question. Let's imagine that all life grew up without the ability to detect electromagnetic radiation. This ability has of course evolved countless times throughout evolution because a lot of useful information is carried by EM. But it's not the only modality available to us--we also have pressure waves, which we can detect as sound through air, or as vibrations through solid. We have some limited amount of chemical detection, via our nose and tongue. We can also detect basic pressure, in general. I think people would survive just fine. Society would develop with these alternative sensory modalities in mind, so instead of visual cues, everything would be auditory and touch-based. Lots of sounds indicating different features, or different surface textures indicating others. For example, different notes might be ascribed to very common pieces of information that we use all the time--like "open" or "closed" for a store, elevator status, etc. With respect to discrimination, which I think this post was hinting at, it's hard to say. I think that discrimination is something inherent in our psyche that's derived from a basic sense of tribalism--we consider "outsiders" to automatically be the enemy, and have an innate desire to protect those more genetically (and to us, therefore visually) similar. In a world without sight, I think things like quality of voice might replace skin color--what I'm saying is that people would find other features by which they can discriminate. ahh yeah, in group out group =( T.T | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
If you mean we were suddenly to turn blind today, well we already know which areas of the brain to stimulate to at least cause us to 'see' black and white phospenes. In fact we already have bionic eye projects, to give a low level of vision to the blind. They are not very good, but good enough for people with them to follow engineer's instructions to make more/ implant them on people. It would create chaos at first as everyone panics, and no small amount of people would die, probably most of teh world, but eventually enough people will be installed with these rudimentary devices for society to function like it did before (ignoring the effect of a great deal of people dying). If in the same scenario but there was no chance of giving us sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation via technological means, then again a great deal of people would die. We are not well evolved to survive in the wild, and our cities are not well designed to be maintained exclusively by blind people. Our infrastructure will collapse, and without our infrastructure most of us would die, extinction is a distinct possibility. However, small communities might still form to survive, possibly based around people who were already blind, and are therefore acclimatised to live without vision, if viable communities formed around those we might survive and learn to thrive without vision, would take some time for us to restructure all our technology to work without vision, but theoretically possible if we don't forget everything we already know before we adapt. If we were to have evolved without vision, then frankly, we would not have evolved. The world is not kind to creatures without sight, any sort of civilization and human intelligence as we know it would be completely out of the question. If by some miracle we were to evolve as we have except without vision, we'd probably already have the technology to deal with it. Society would honestly not be that different, all the signalling we do visually now would be done via touch and sound. We'd not be worried about physical appearance, but we'd still be superficial that way. Our discrimination via physical appearance stems from evolutionary pressure, it is a shortcut to estimating a potential mate's health. So we'd have found new ways to discriminate but life would work pretty much like it does now. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On February 06 2012 16:00 jodogohoo wrote: key: the "so what?" quesiton / point im trying to discuss I guess the main point isn't really blindness but perhaps that social interactions would be better if we didn't know what the other person looked like. Not exactly like online communication, more like... being able to see them and see non-verbal communication but... not seeing their race, age, style of clothing, level of attractiveness... etc.. Your assumption that perception of age, race and "level of attractiveness" depend solely on vision is both naive and vaguely insulting to blind people. Suffice it to say, civilization would end if everybody went blind overnight. Homo Sapiens would probably go extinct. A small minority of blind people can lead a perfectly normal life. A large majority of blind people would result in complete chaos: humans as a whole are dependent on vision. Our other senses aren't sufficiently developed to take over in a way to allow us to perform all necessary tasks. If your question was more in line with "what would society look like if we had evolved without eyes", then my answer is: Nobody knows, tiddelypom. Nobody cares, tiddelypom. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
our ancestors would have died to mammals with eyes and humanity as we know it would not exist. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
I doubt humans would have existed without eyes, because physically we are already quite pathetic compared to most animals and we have to rely on tools to even survive, let alone thrive. I mean, imagine a caveman trying to make some fire, not only does he have to feel for flints, but now he has to scorch his hand to acknowledge that he has succeeded in making a fire. We'd be the laughing stock of the food chain. If we would go blind now, our hunting methods would consist of driving over the countryside in the hope we hit an animal with it, then overheating the engine to cook the meat. This would only aid us until all the cars go broke though, and we might ignite a few forests and fields along the way. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:46 Chaosvuistje wrote: Siri, calculate the distance my hand needs to travel to pick up the nearest food. Hehe as an aside, that would actually not work. For all the elegance of our biological system, we are terrible at odometry. Seriously, try picking up a cup on a table, then putting it back, then closing your eyes and trying to pick it up again, you will miss. We are so used to visual servoing we don't even notice we are doing it anymore, we are so bad at odometry we are now looking at implementing visual servoing in robotics, despite robots actually being pretty damn good at odometry >< | ||
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popzags
Poland604 Posts
On February 06 2012 16:00 jodogohoo wrote: Straight up, what would the world be like if everyone was blind? Jhasfbeuiha;idh as;dhah;asi as;ihda;ifhahk;j.asdh;i ahsi;dsh;aiwQY ;OUIORUHJba. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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United States470 Posts
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