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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
January 29 2012 10:32 GMT
#21
On January 29 2012 14:39 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 14:35 419 wrote:
Is this some allegory about the Iranian oil sanctions?


This is what I came in expecting.


exactly the same here.
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
January 29 2012 10:34 GMT
#22
I've been trying to add a lot of banshees into my late game TvP but it's not that good since they have such a long build time.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#23
so like you didn't leave any examples...or replays...or vods...or junk

Terrans continue to accumulate gas well into the late game because gas is harder to get than minerals.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 29 2012 10:54 GMT
#24
There's no real gas "sink" for Terran like other races since ghosts got nerfed to cost less gas and more minerals.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
January 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#25
On January 29 2012 14:35 419 wrote:
Is this some allegory about the Iranian oil sanctions?


Nice one, sir.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 11:15:59
January 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#26
On January 29 2012 19:54 Numy wrote:
There's no real gas "sink" for Terran like other races since ghosts got buffed to cost less gas and more minerals.

Its better to have too much gas than not enough as any protoss will tell you.

As for the topic at hand - you can only get gas at a set max rate whereas moving workers from gas to minerals makes mining minerals less efficient overall. Bank and use the gas for late game is a legitimate strategy.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 11:25:07
January 29 2012 11:23 GMT
#27
On January 29 2012 20:13 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 19:54 Numy wrote:
There's no real gas "sink" for Terran like other races since ghosts got buffed to cost less gas and more minerals.

Its better to have too much gas than not enough as any protoss will tell you.

lol for protoss yes. Because Protoss has HT/Archon and collosus 1:3, and 3:2 min to gas ratio , good gas dumps both can do high splash damage. When playing bio marine all minerals, marauder 4:1 min gas ratio, ghost 2:1, viking2:1. Minerals are the constraint not gas until pros find way to somehow make adding ravens to bio viable, bcs, thors and tanks will probably never be useful.

Not saying anything is imba or anything just you come off as pretty arrogant with your "fixed" style reply to him when you don't seem to understand the race you are talking about. Even if you watch any pro tvp macro game its often pretty obvious their minerals are being constrained much more than their gas once their 3-3 is done.
perser84
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany399 Posts
January 29 2012 11:47 GMT
#28
On January 29 2012 14:35 419 wrote:
Is this some allegory about the Iranian oil sanctions?

you reading too much into it tehran and terran lol lol lol
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 29 2012 11:50 GMT
#29
Wait this makes sense to me why is everyone else trolling?
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
January 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#30
On January 29 2012 20:50 KimJongChill wrote:
Wait this makes sense to me why is everyone else trolling?

I guess it's because it's not in the right forum.

OT: I also feel that I keep banking up a lot of gas near the mid-late game. But I can't do anything about it since my main army composition revolves around marines and tanks. What I usually do is remove SCVs from gas and put them on minerals or bring them with my army. (SCVs are great meat shields )
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 29 2012 12:15 GMT
#31
People think its so easy for terran to spend gas. Protoss and zerg can just tap on their existing infrastructure and add 1/2 tech buildings to build lots of gas intensive units. For terran, we have to add lots of factories/starports to be able to spend that gas all at one go once we bank it up. Terran will always have extra gas and thats just part of the game unless your terran and your going mech, unless u want us to put down 5-6 factories so we can get 6 thors at 1 go.
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
January 29 2012 12:17 GMT
#32
ravens are not the way to go in tvp unless the opponent is massing stalkers (since PDD only stops stalker and phoenix shots, and no one goes phoenix in pvt), which doesn't happen lategame as tosses know stalkers kinda suck beyond early-midgame. Seeker missile is garbage and auto turrets are not worth 200 gas. I would rather have BCs or even banshees over ravens in tvp.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
January 29 2012 12:17 GMT
#33
most good terran don't bank gas.

and its much harder for terran to spend gas quickly, since you need additional infrastructure while protoss and zerg don't
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 12:23:40
January 29 2012 12:21 GMT
#34
I'm guessing this is because 1) its almost always better to have too much gas than not enough gas and 2) for the 3rd/4th/etc. base people are habituated into taking gases during or shortly after building an expansion regardless of whether they need them or not. It's obvious though that if they aren't ultimately going to be using the gas for any reason (no major lategame tech switch to bc's or anything) those 12 scvs could instead be mining 500 minerals extra per minute (based on this, which turns out to be 60% of a fully saturated base) at that very moment rather than collecting gas that will never be used.
KAmaKAsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland210 Posts
January 29 2012 12:23 GMT
#35
this is kind of a stupid thread... its kind of obvious... if you dont need that much gas just dont take the geysirs... 6 gases is enough for tvz and tvp and 4-5 gases is enough for bio vs mech and with mech u just want as much as u can
kwondoo
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands100 Posts
January 29 2012 12:24 GMT
#36
On January 29 2012 14:31 Taekwon wrote:
....

lol


DAT_USERNAME

we should go archon mode man, we'd be kicking ass!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#37
On January 29 2012 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 14:35 419 wrote:
Is this some allegory about the Iranian oil sanctions?


Thank you so much for that. can't_stop_laughing.

That is pretty fucking hilarious :D
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
January 29 2012 12:29 GMT
#38
It's generally something that only happens in 30+ minute games, when terrans no longer have anything to spend their gas on outside mineral-heavy units.
Before about 30 minutes terrans float *some* gas, but not all that much, then suddenly all their upgrades finish and their units have a mineral-heavy mix leading to gas because they don't take SCVs off gas.

It is quite wasteful from a worker/economy perspective, but it's one of many small things which players do/don't do which sets their game far away from perfection.
It's also not something terrans feel concerned enough about because it's not particularly material, since they have mules to make up for the econ, and they sac "enough" SCVs lategame if they go mass CC to have a large army and still maintain good enough economy that they extra 3~6 food from saccing a couple of geysers of SCVs doesn't matter compared to all the other little things they mess up.
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Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
January 29 2012 12:32 GMT
#39
I think one reason Terrans float gas is because of Mules. When they secure a new base and call down 6+ Mules, there is a sudden huge influx of minerals, and the banked gas will come to use. Otherwise, they can easily find themselves gas starved right at the moment they seem to get an economical advantage.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 29 2012 12:44 GMT
#40
On January 29 2012 15:00 Kashll wrote:
I once played a game where i floated gas in TvZ because i forgot to reactor my starport during a rine tank build.

Because of this I no longer build refineries.

I think this is the correct solution!
"NO" -Has
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