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On January 18 2012 ... ... Tenks wrote:
Lol. We've been together for 5 years and we live together. I'm kind of over the "showing her off" phase of my life. She does try and learn. She'll watch me play and try to ask questions. She loves MMA and hates IdrA. However when it comes to deep knowledge to really want to stay there for 10 hours a day ... it just isn't there. I'd assume it is like that for many people.
Get her together with the girls who DO go to the events then - she will have people to hang out with, and we don't usually hang out in the venue the ENTIRE time (unless we are working, but there are those who work, who obs, who wander and play all the little fun games like the scavenger hunt and AR drone course, etc...) we meet up and break for meals, mini-after-parties (clean fun), etc - there IS a lot to do other than JUST sit up at the main stage and watch matches (I've done all of those aforementioned things - including sit for 10 hours a day in the same spot watching the games)
I invite her to join us, and I'm PMing you a link :D
I hope to see you both next MLG.
~Bright
(a 25$ spec pass is a pretty small price to pay for all the fun WE have)
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On January 18 2012 01:33 BrightSideSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 ... ... Tenks wrote:
Lol. We've been together for 5 years and we live together. I'm kind of over the "showing her off" phase of my life. She does try and learn. She'll watch me play and try to ask questions. She loves MMA and hates IdrA. However when it comes to deep knowledge to really want to stay there for 10 hours a day ... it just isn't there. I'd assume it is like that for many people. Get her together with the girls who DO go to the events then - she will have people to hang out with, and we don't usually hang out in the venue the ENTIRE time (unless we are working, but there are those who work, who obs, who wander and play all the little fun games like the scavenger hunt and AR drone course, etc...) we meet up and break for meals, mini-after-parties (clean fun), etc - there IS a lot to do other than JUST sit up at the main stage and watch matches (I've done all of those aforementioned things - including sit for 10 hours a day in the same spot watching the games) I invite her to join us, and I'm PMing you a link :D I hope to see you both next MLG. ~Bright (a 25$ spec pass is a pretty small price to pay for all the fun WE have)
She has already declared she is going to MLG Columbus with me again if it is coming around. I'll offer this as a suggestion. Thanks. I'll respond with a few questions I have to the PM.
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I have no problems with it, but frankly I don't see any reason why MLG would want to do something like this
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On January 18 2012 01:36 Huggerz wrote:
I have no problems with it, but frankly I don't see any reason why MLG would want to do something like this
Introducing their product to more possible consumers. Easy 1+1 of economics ...
Guess you guys really never heard about marketing, even tho its all around you (special offers here special offers there)
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I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone.
To the people saying "Why not?", as if this is a free money for zero cost, you're not considering the time cost. Someone has to set this up, and then someone at the door has to manage another type of ticket being used. And then people have to be available for when men show up with women's tickets. I'd say overall it's just not worth it.
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On January 18 2012 01:37 Chill wrote:
I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone.
It is a matter of effort and costs.
And in general it is easier(and cheaper) to offer special offers than to upgrade your venue(whatever). Why?
Producing tickets is not a considerable cost.
What happens if they dont sell the tickets? They will only lose the said production cost.
What happens if they sell the tickets? They will earn more money which they wouldn't have earned before (since it is a new audience as so many of you claimed; only few girls are attending today, so the 0,01-1% of girls attending won't hurt as much. To get in some math: if lets say 100 girls were attending the previous MLG without any special offer. You would only need to sell 150 Tickets to girls if u reduce prices by 25%. To reduce your risk make the reduction even less ... ezpz)
Please look up some basic principles of marketing ...
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Yea I'll get right back looking up basic principles of marketing LOL. In the mean time, you can respond to my edited comment on extra costs.
We're talking about a potential extra thousand dollars for little effort and a reasonable amount of management. It's not even worth worrying about.
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On January 18 2012 01:23 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:21 DMII wrote:The issue is since I paid full price for her pass I felt like she needed to be there with me simply to get my money's worth. If you drag her to an event, which you know she isn't interested in all that much, you should probably care more about her getting at least some entertainment, than you getting your money's worth. After all she came with you because she cares about you, so you could probably be less egoistic and also care a little about her. And by that I do not mean, that you ask for her to cost less money, so letting her go doesn't hurt your wallet that much. Erm, trolling? You ever been into a relationship longer than 3 month? It has NOTHING to with egoistic, no it is even the opposite of what you claim it to be. Unless you consider trying to share what someone love in a relationship is egoistic.
I don't consider trying to share something you love with your partner to be egoistic.
However, if you worry more about your money than your partner while doing so, then you are obviously more caring about your own good, than about anyone else. That's what is called egoism, aka, caring more about yourself than others.
While I admit that my relationships so far have not lasted longer than 3 months, I still know, that being in a relationship means caring more about your partner and less about yourself. Otherwise you may call it relationship, but it actually is just you feeling awesome because you have someone to show off.
Edit: On a side note, I don't want to blame the OP to be like that, to me it just sounds a lot like it.
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On January 18 2012 01:41 Chill wrote:
Yea I'll get right back looking up basic principles of marketing LOL. In the mean time, you can respond to my edited comment on extra costs.
Yea I'll get right back to comment on your edit. In the mean time, you can read my edit.
And please leave that to the guys at MLG(or whatever) since i believe they also have some studied ecnomists who can calculate the cost-effort balance and therefor set up some risk-calculation but to use it as an argument in such a discussion takes you no-where.
On January 18 2012 01:42 DMII wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:23 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 01:21 DMII wrote:The issue is since I paid full price for her pass I felt like she needed to be there with me simply to get my money's worth. If you drag her to an event, which you know she isn't interested in all that much, you should probably care more about her getting at least some entertainment, than you getting your money's worth. After all she came with you because she cares about you, so you could probably be less egoistic and also care a little about her. And by that I do not mean, that you ask for her to cost less money, so letting her go doesn't hurt your wallet that much. Erm, trolling? You ever been into a relationship longer than 3 month? It has NOTHING to with egoistic, no it is even the opposite of what you claim it to be. Unless you consider trying to share what someone love in a relationship is egoistic. I don't consider trying to share something you love with your partner to be egoistic. However, if you worry more about your money than your partner while doing so, then you are obviously more caring about your own good, than about anyone else. That's what is called egoism, aka, caring more about yourself than others. While I admit that my relationships so far have not lasted longer than 3 months, I still know, that being in a relationship means caring more about your partner and less about yourself. Otherwise you may call it relationship, but it actually is just you feeling awesome because you have someone to show off. On a side note, I don't want to blame the OP to be that way, it just sounds a lot that way.
Since the OP didn't "whine" about it I think he wants to give MLGs some CONSTRUCTIVE input and wants to discuss it with you. But what happens? He just gets herps and derps with no real arguments.
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Right. And by doing that analysis they've already blown through half the potential profits LOL
There's tons of shit that we could do at my company to say thousands of dollars daily. But the time of the people involved to make it happen means it would be a net loss. People get paid for their time. If they can be doing something that makes more money then they should.
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On January 18 2012 01:39 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:37 Chill wrote:
I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone. It is a matter of effort and costs. And in general it is easier(and cheaper) to offer special offers than to upgrade your venue(whatever). Why? Producing tickets is not a considerable cost. What happens if they dont sell the tickets? They will only lose the said production cost. What happens if they sell the tickets? They will earn more money which they wouldn't have earned before (since it is a new audience as so many of you claimed; only few girls are attending today, so the 0,01-1% of girls attending won't hurt as much. To get in some math: if lets say 100 girls were attending the previous MLG without any special offer. You would only need to sell 150 Tickets to girls if u reduce prices by 25%. To reduce your risk make the reduction even less ... ezpz) Please look up some basic principles of marketing ...
By that logic, they should be reducing the costs of any group of people who were stereotypically stingy- as those would be the targeted groups who would come to MLG *if only the prices were lower*.
Except in reality, prices for SC2 tickets are pretty damn cheap, and women of all groups are not rejecting SC2 tournaments *because it's too pricey*.
Do you or the OP even know if women are rejecting tickets because of the costs? Who's to say that lowering the price of tickets would make more women come? If operas and ballets offered cheaper tickets, I wouldn't be any more likely to come...
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On January 18 2012 01:44 Chill wrote:
Right. And by doing that analysis they've already blown through half the potential profits LOL
Oh is that how real economics work? Guess I should tell our business analysts here that they are worthless.
By that logic, they should be reducing the costs of any group of people who were stereotypically stingy- as those would be the targeted groups who would come to MLG *if only the prices were lower*.
Oh my ... how often should i say it: COST AND EFFORT.
So you somewhat imply that they should offer special offers to handicapped, gays etc. but did you ever looked up how many females are living on our planet and compared it to other "groups"?
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On January 18 2012 01:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:39 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 01:37 Chill wrote:
I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone. It is a matter of effort and costs. And in general it is easier(and cheaper) to offer special offers than to upgrade your venue(whatever). Why? Producing tickets is not a considerable cost. What happens if they dont sell the tickets? They will only lose the said production cost. What happens if they sell the tickets? They will earn more money which they wouldn't have earned before (since it is a new audience as so many of you claimed; only few girls are attending today, so the 0,01-1% of girls attending won't hurt as much. To get in some math: if lets say 100 girls were attending the previous MLG without any special offer. You would only need to sell 150 Tickets to girls if u reduce prices by 25%. To reduce your risk make the reduction even less ... ezpz) Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... By that logic, they should be reducing the costs of any group of people who were stereotypically stingy- as those would be the targeted groups who would come to MLG *if only the prices were lower*. Except in reality, prices for SC2 tickets are pretty damn cheap, and women of all groups are not rejecting SC2 tournaments *because it's too pricey*. Do you even know if women are rejecting tickets because of the costs?
Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... LOL
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On January 18 2012 01:46 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:44 Chill wrote:
Right. And by doing that analysis they've already blown through half the potential profits LOL Oh is that how real economics work? Guess I should tell our business analysts here that they are worthless.
I'm guessing your business analysts don't run analyses to make an extra $1000. What the fuck are you talking about? This is small potatoes. Risk analysis on a ticket discount?
You're making me insane jesus christ.
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On January 18 2012 01:46 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 18 2012 01:39 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 01:37 Chill wrote:
I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone. It is a matter of effort and costs. And in general it is easier(and cheaper) to offer special offers than to upgrade your venue(whatever). Why? Producing tickets is not a considerable cost. What happens if they dont sell the tickets? They will only lose the said production cost. What happens if they sell the tickets? They will earn more money which they wouldn't have earned before (since it is a new audience as so many of you claimed; only few girls are attending today, so the 0,01-1% of girls attending won't hurt as much. To get in some math: if lets say 100 girls were attending the previous MLG without any special offer. You would only need to sell 150 Tickets to girls if u reduce prices by 25%. To reduce your risk make the reduction even less ... ezpz) Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... By that logic, they should be reducing the costs of any group of people who were stereotypically stingy- as those would be the targeted groups who would come to MLG *if only the prices were lower*. Except in reality, prices for SC2 tickets are pretty damn cheap, and women of all groups are not rejecting SC2 tournaments *because it's too pricey*. Do you even know if women are rejecting tickets because of the costs? Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... LOL
Well played XD
I love how people think they can take some principles or theories and always apply them to every situation, regardless of context.
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I understand your suggestion but I don't see the need to bring gender into it.
Instead perhaps they can sell a lower tier pass that has access to less events/games for less
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On January 18 2012 01:47 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:46 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 01:44 Chill wrote:
Right. And by doing that analysis they've already blown through half the potential profits LOL Oh is that how real economics work? Guess I should tell our business analysts here that they are worthless. I'm guessing your business analysts don't run analyses to make an extra $1000. What the fuck are you talking about? This is small potatoes. Risk analysis on a ticket discount? You're making me insane jesus christ.
I hope not. That wouldn't be that good for TL if you go insane 
So we are talking about $1000 direct revenue aight? Since you are somewhat into marketing you should also know the effect marketing has on a short-time scale and on the long run. So why you get insane?
On January 18 2012 01:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:46 Chill wrote:On January 18 2012 01:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 18 2012 01:39 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 01:37 Chill wrote:
I don't think MLG has cornered the 98% of their market that they need to look at expanding into and improving upon the other 2%. Further, I don't think getting a few more girls to come will make a lot more guys come. They should focus their efforts on improving the experience for everyone. It is a matter of effort and costs. And in general it is easier(and cheaper) to offer special offers than to upgrade your venue(whatever). Why? Producing tickets is not a considerable cost. What happens if they dont sell the tickets? They will only lose the said production cost. What happens if they sell the tickets? They will earn more money which they wouldn't have earned before (since it is a new audience as so many of you claimed; only few girls are attending today, so the 0,01-1% of girls attending won't hurt as much. To get in some math: if lets say 100 girls were attending the previous MLG without any special offer. You would only need to sell 150 Tickets to girls if u reduce prices by 25%. To reduce your risk make the reduction even less ... ezpz) Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... By that logic, they should be reducing the costs of any group of people who were stereotypically stingy- as those would be the targeted groups who would come to MLG *if only the prices were lower*. Except in reality, prices for SC2 tickets are pretty damn cheap, and women of all groups are not rejecting SC2 tournaments *because it's too pricey*. Do you even know if women are rejecting tickets because of the costs? Please look up some basic principles of marketing ... LOL Well played XD I love how people think they can take some principles or theories and always apply them to every situation, regardless of context.
Because the context is totally not marketing?
I love how people think they can generalize and judge people by reading some posts <3
edit: oh wait Chill ninja'd my post am I now famous on TL?
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As long as the girls have a 3 drink minimum, I'm all for them having cheaper tickets.
Trolololol.
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it is illegal... but not applied. heard some talk about it on the news
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