EPTMLG suggestion: Ladies passes - Page 8
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Paraietta
United Kingdom130 Posts
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statikg
Canada930 Posts
That said on the matter of selling discounted tickets to women - it would be more of a long term investment into the popularity of e-sports then anything else and I am not sure that is one of MLGs key interests. It would be a loss in the meantime assuming MLG normally sells out (I don't know). | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45349 Posts
On January 18 2012 01:46 bluQ wrote: Oh my ... how often should i say it: COST AND EFFORT. So you somewhat imply that they should offer special offers to handicapped, gays etc. but did you ever looked up how many females are living on our planet and compared it to other "groups"? ::blinks:: Handicaps and gays are stingy? What? And oh my gosh there are far more insects than females, so we should only charge $1 per insect ticket. (Most insects enjoy Zerg; most females don't give a shit about SC2. See what I did there?) Take a cheap, largely-feminine event that guys usually don't go to. And now lower the price even more. How does that give men an incentive to go? It doesn't. Men who are already interested in that event will go regardless of whether a ticket to that event is 10 or 15 dollars. Or they'll already be going because they're being dragged along by their girlfriends. But the idea of cheaper tickets doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority wouldn't want to go anyway. Now just switch around the genders and BAM you have StarCraft 2. You're welcome. If opera or ballet tickets dropped from $30 to $20 (although I hear they can be much more), I wouldn't be any more likely to go. MLG and other tournaments are not super-pricey. It's not like a huge number of women wanted to go but couldn't afford tickets. If there's a way to increase this target audience (women), it's not through making tickets cheaper. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On January 18 2012 01:55 statikg wrote: Chill relax your being douche try to set an example for ppl -.-. That said on the matter of selling discounted tickets to women - it would be more of a long term investment into the popularity of e-sports then anything else and I am not sure that is one of MLGs key interests. It would be a loss in the meantime assuming MLG normally sells out (I don't know). Im totally with you. But as far as my expierence with business and companies goes. MLG would rather like to search a bigger venue when sold out and attract even more. But yea, if they are fine with their earnings and audience (in terms of numbers) it would be a loss of investment. Thats why I said that this should be discussed by MLG's business analysts (would also invovle alot of business strategy and vision). And oh my gosh there are far more insects than females, so we should only charge $1 per insect ticket. (Most insects enjoy Zerg; most females don't give a shit about SC2. See what I did there?) Now THAT is discremenation.Do they really dont give a shit? Or is there some social-hindrance and sub-culture which makes them believe they should better not give a shit? On what do you base the fact that they don't like SC2? My gf sometimes watch it with me, she just don't like to play it. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
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Frail
Iceland336 Posts
Sure, its cool if more girls go to MLG's but blatant gender discrimination is ridiculous. People should enjoy the events they choose to attend. Maybe the MLG should bring out more girl oriented entertainment? Should they? I'd say no. But as with everything, it's debatable. | ||
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atmuh
United States246 Posts
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
But I guess that's just my opinion. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45349 Posts
On January 18 2012 01:59 bluQ wrote: Now THAT is discremenation. Do they really dont give a shit? Or is there some social-hindrance and sub-culture which makes them believe they should better not give a shit? On what do you base the fact that they don't like SC2? My gf sometimes watch it with me, she just don't like to play it. Totally nailed it. I think at an early age, parents work hard to beat the micro out of females. You're joking, right? My girlfriend doesn't mind the StarCraft scene when I talk about it, and she's even occasionally played BW and SC2 with me, but any person (regardless of gender) is going to experience social hindrances and sub-cultures. Perhaps a cross-gender-stereotype jump might be more difficult, but the push that a girl would need to go to a gaming tournament would not be to make the tickets a little bit cheaper. That's utterly ridiculous, sexist, and there's no reason or data to even suggest such a thing. | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
I think the onus is on you guys to make the best of it, not on MLG. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On January 18 2012 02:06 Witten wrote: Lowering ticket prices for females does not necessarily correlate into more females buying tickets and attending an event. A drop in price isn't going to attract a different demographic alone. If MLG is interested in getting more females to MLG events then there are much better ways to attract a female crowd then merely lowering the price of a female ticket. Ads specifically targeted to women, on websites that receive lots of female traffic, would arguably reach much more female eyes than lowering prices. If MLG lowered prices by $10, the only females who would even notice are those who were already interested in going. I don't think it makes any sense to assume that females are going to look at an MLG that they previously weren't interested in and then change their mind based on a price decrease. Making more female friendly events and areas at an MLG, and making the event more female friendly in general, would be a much better route to take if this is something MLG is interested in. But I guess that's just my opinion. Thanks for your very thoughtfull input  Would liek to read more of such comments.I can agree to alot of what you say. It wouldn't be enough to just drop prices. It would typically involve standard marketing to get the attention of the targetgroup you want to introduce to your product. And what i really want to emphazize is that the OP never stated that his "concept" would be the perfect but in general he is on the right track. What you are missing is the fact that there might be a lot of females who were thinking about going there but in the end decide to not base on the spending. And as I stated before; attracting those is important to grow the awarness and acceptance of eSports which will then correlate in way more audience(of different demographic gropus). | ||
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Radin
United States57 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Blurio
Germany288 Posts
On January 18 2012 00:58 Jiddra wrote: So explain in englis so we can understand then. And this is not retardness, it is really not necessay. Smoking is another bad example, as it is a danger to others. He argumented in "gendering" which is a practice of writing basically Doctor and "Doctoress" when referring to the job "Doctor". It's really retarded but apparently promotes equality. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On January 18 2012 02:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Totally nailed it. I think at an early age, parents work hard to beat the micro out of females. You're joking, right? My girlfriend doesn't mind the StarCraft scene when I talk about it, and she's even occasionally played BW and SC2 with me, but any person (regardless of gender) is going to experience social hindrances and sub-cultures. Perhaps a cross-gender-stereotype jump might be more difficult, but the push that a girl would need to go to a gaming tournament would not be to make the tickets a little bit cheaper. That's utterly ridiculous, sexist, and there's no reason or data to even suggest such a thing. What i said several posts before: eSports is one of the few sports which SHOULDN'T be labeld as male-dominant. But yet we have the mark to be. So you need to work against it. How? By marketing. It's really retarded but apparently promotes equality. Need to comment on this: To differ between gender doesn't promote equality. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
There, I just created the first MLG Date package. | ||
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