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On January 18 2012 02:29 ICCup.Tesla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:21 turdburgler wrote:On January 18 2012 02:19 ICCup.Tesla wrote:On January 18 2012 02:14 Blurio wrote:On January 18 2012 00:58 Jiddra wrote:On January 18 2012 00:55 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 00:53 Jiddra wrote:On January 18 2012 00:41 bluQ wrote:On January 18 2012 00:18 iamperfection wrote:
I kind of surprised with all the negativity against this. Price discrimination happens all the time and this would be great way to improve female attendance. Same. I don't get all the herps and derps from those guys. "I want to herped the same way as everyone else gets derped." wtf? You guys really are THAT ignorant? No wonder no females want to particpate in such a horrible community. On January 18 2012 00:39 Finrod1 wrote:On January 18 2012 00:14 Grovbolle wrote:
That sounds like sexism It is. Terrible idea that should not be promoted in esports. we dont need to copy societys sexism. Rofl what? Do you really live in germany? Liebe Leserinnen und Leser. Liebe Lehrerinnen und Lehrer. Liebe Elterinnen und Eltern. Who would argue that this is sexism really has a problem with his on sexlife i guess. That has NOTHING to do with sexism. Otherwise you could also argue that building things for handicapped is discrimination .... If thats what u call ethics, im sure we will all burn in hell. So what does different names have to do with actually treating people different beacuse of their sex, when it isn't necessary? To even bring handicap is just silly, and I hope you know it and is just trolling. Erm as it seems you toally don't get a bit of my references so why comment on it? And no I am not trolling, having a handicapped mother, i appreciate every institution which supports them. So why did I mention it? Because it is some mordern-retardness to claim discrimination because something/one gets treated different than you are. THERE IS a freakin right to do that if it has some based argument to do so. Or am I discriminated as a smoker because i need to smoke outside? Hell no. So explain in englis so we can understand then. And this is not retardness, it is really not necessay. Smoking is another bad example, as it is a danger to others. He argumented in "gendering" which is a practice of writing basically Doctor and "Doctoress" when referring to the job "Doctor". It's really retarded but apparently promotes equality. The only thing it promises is more sexism and more discrimination! This makes no equality. We don`t need special treatment. Just stop suggesting things like this how many times have you argued for female only leagues? Female only Leagues are a different story. It is to HELP encourage more females to be involved in the community and in the competitive scene. This is not a hard concept to understand.
but they make you special and different, just like female only pricing would. im sure there are a few girls who would give mlg a chance if it was cheaper, maybe not many but a few. so in a broad sense female only leagues and female only pricing achieve the exact same things
it encourages girls to take part, but segregates them from the mainstream. and yet your on a different side of the fence on the topics? telling me that its simple to understand doesnt really help me understand why
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Hmmm.... Honestly, after reading over everybody's posts, I have a strong impression that nobody here actually knows and understands the definition of the word Sexism.
sex·ism
[sek-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities; especially, such discrimination directed against women.
If 95% of people at an MLG event are male, then it's a fact that many women do not attend MLG events. By making a ticket for women at a lower price, is NOT sexist, it is NOT discriminatory,
Just saying that a lot of women don't go to MLG when it's >>>FREAKING TRUE<<< is NOT sexist. It's Not saying women can't enjoy MLG events, it's saying that Maybe we could think of a better more enticing way to make MLG events more interesting to everyone, both women and men.
An example of what sexism truly is: "You CAN'T go to MLG b/c it's for Men only." Or saying "Women shouldn't play video games b/c they need to clean/cook" THAT is a sexist statement.
saying that MLG doesn't have a large women fan base and that there's something that could be done to change that.
That's NOT sexism.
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You honestly think more girls would come if they got discounts? Aside from the fact that's kinda offensive (MLG ain't a club, guy), that's totally illogical. Do girls have a harder time paying like 20 bucks than guys? How do you know that the reason there aren't more girls is cause it's too pricey for them?? I think it's more likely that girls in general are simply less interested in SC2 than your average dood. No offense
If I don't normally get my nails did at the parlor and such, but do you think I'll start going more just cause the beauty salon decides to offer discounts to men? I dunno if it works like that
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be a good friend and pay for your gf or friend that is a girl to come if you really want them to be there with you.
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On January 18 2012 02:33 LittleAtari wrote:
be a good friend and pay for your gf or friend that is a girl to come if you really want them to be there with you.
im glad we are defining good guys as those with spare cash in their wallets
On January 18 2012 02:33 FallDownMarigold wrote:
You honestly think more girls would come if they got discounts? Aside from the fact that's kinda offensive (MLG ain't a club, guy), that's totally illogical. Do girls have a harder time paying like 20 bucks than guys? How do you know that the reason there aren't more girls is cause it's too pricey for them?? I think it's more likely that girls in general are simply less interested in SC2 than your average dood. No offense
its not illogical, if mlg was cheaper more people would come from both sexes, cheaper for girls will affect their turnout rate, if only slightly. its offensive to pretty much everyone, but its not illogical.
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Bad bad bad idea.
All this will do, if it works, is attract Gamer Girls, not Girl Gamers.
The last thing I want is having obnoxious females involved who think they deserve special treatment just because of her gender.
Edit: To Clarify
Gamer Girls are people who thinks they deserve better treatment in video games just because they're girls.
Girl Gamers are gamers who just happens to be a girl and behaves like a typical gamer. You won't notice she's a girl until she tells you.
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I don't know why but I find this idea somewhat appealing. But the price for the whole weekend was ridiculously low. I paid $25 to watch about 20-25 hours of live starcraft. So if I have to pay another $25 for my wife to join me I would have no issue. I am actually surprised at how cheap it was to attend the event and would gladly pay double of what I did.
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No more girls would come and thats pretty f'ed up.
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he drugged his gf along
*giggles*
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On January 18 2012 00:00 Fionn wrote:
I want to bring my pet alligator to MLG, but it will be hard to drag him to the event. Can MLG give me a discounted alligator pass so that it isn't such a hassle to bring him? MLG really needs more pets at their events and this could be a good way to get more of them.
The thread should have ended here! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Really good one Fionn!
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On January 18 2012 02:35 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:33 LittleAtari wrote:
be a good friend and pay for your gf or friend that is a girl to come if you really want them to be there with you. im glad we are defining good guys as those with spare cash in their wallets Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:33 FallDownMarigold wrote:
You honestly think more girls would come if they got discounts? Aside from the fact that's kinda offensive (MLG ain't a club, guy), that's totally illogical. Do girls have a harder time paying like 20 bucks than guys? How do you know that the reason there aren't more girls is cause it's too pricey for them?? I think it's more likely that girls in general are simply less interested in SC2 than your average dood. No offense its not illogical, if mlg was cheaper more people would come from both sexes, cheaper for girls will affect their turnout rate, if only slightly. its offensive to pretty much everyone, but its not illogical.
Really? So the assumption is that there are girls who want to come, but don't simply because it's too pricey. I call that un-parsimonious and not very rational
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... I fail to see the point in letting girls get a special discount in getting into MLG.
... they can get it themselves, also gender discrimination is stupid.
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Why does the community necessarily need more females? Sure, it'd be nice if girls would like to play but I don't think it's necessary to buy them into Starcraft
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Okay, so you're saying that if you want to be there you pay normal and if you don't then you get a discount? ...what?
Not a good idea...
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I remember going to a club once when I was younger and it was ladies free night. I turned around and said fuck this sexist club and we left, never went back. Allowing discounts or free entry because of your gender is extremely sexist.
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This would be a great idea if it wasn't that the events are usually sold out already(if I'm not mistaken). It wouldn't make sense for MLG to do it at this point.
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iNcontroL
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instead of making the female pass less expensive I submit we scent it with a popular fragrance and use the word "fabulous" when advertising it.
Problem solved.
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There was actually a ton of girls at providence for Halo.
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On January 18 2012 02:43 iNcontroL wrote:
instead of making the female pass less expensive I submit we scent it with a popular fragrance and use the word "fabulous" when advertising it.
Problem solved.
Make it a pink wristband too. Green/Gold/Red so gross.
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I dont like idea about ladies discount or "i just came because friend made me" discount. But idea about selling some kind of 1+1 packages or packages for group of friends, that includes food vouchers or some other bonus is quite interesting.
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