Please at least use the right terms if you are going to type up a small essay. I feel like this is a horse that has kicked until it has turned to dust, yet people still misuse the term stream sniping vs stream ghosting.

Stream Sniping - Using a players stream to enter MM in hopes of getting placed against them.
Stream Hacking (aka Ghosting) - Watching a player's stream while you play them to gain information about them.

These are two completely terms and two completely different issues.

Edit - This all fails to mention both of these issues can be solved by putting a delay onto your stream. Which has kindly been pointed out a few times in this thread already.

LXR

357 Posts

January 04 2012 06:15 GMT

#24

On January 04 2012 15:05 Oreo7 wrote:
Stop making threads about it and giving attention whores attention.

I have no idea why you think you making a post on TL would do anything about the situation except make people who have made it their job to get attention get excited that you're giving it to them. Stop.

I agree with this guy. I also think Artosis should. All they want is to see ppl getting frustrated, so when ppl snipe you just lol and make assimilators everywhere. It won't tank your ranking that much anyways.

RmoteCntrld

United States596 Posts

January 04 2012 06:20 GMT

#25

Think outside of the box to stop this maybe? Hide when you queue, or maybe queue up then hide it and cancel and queue again. There are more effective ways to solve this problem then telling people who don't care about anything to stop.

JFlynn

United States7 Posts

January 04 2012 06:20 GMT

#26

twitch.tv could really use a delay feature, absolutely.

Stream 'sniping' by itself fairly neutral -- people want to play against starcraft figures, it's understandable.

But when the sniper just spams insults all game and doesn't let them match with anyone else for as long as they play, that's simply harassment. They're likely also stream 'cheating' since the only point is to annoy the other person and to see the reaction on stream.

dNa

Germany591 Posts

January 04 2012 06:21 GMT

#27

just to clarify: a stream"sniper" just tries to get people who stream into ladder matches ... a stream"cheater" is someone who blatantly watches the stream and knows everything ... iam not saying swoozy or any of the other people named in this thread don't streamcheat, but there is a difference ^.^ for example back when jp was streaming ladder matches i was trying to get a game with him ... not because i wanted to stream cheat, but i thought it would be fun to play someone famous while streaming, maybe giving him a good game and resulting in that getting some exposure.

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

January 04 2012 06:22 GMT

#28

I don't support stream sniping but I don't discourage it. There are few things more entertaining watching deezer or combatex stream snipe the likes of idra, and watching the BMing flame war ensue between them.

Skuller

United States197 Posts

January 04 2012 06:22 GMT

#29

Put in a stream delay, answer questions from twitter. Announce like 1-2 games ahead of when you plan on doing questions.

As much as I respect the players, I have a feeling that either a stream delay puts too much stress on their gaming machines (which is the better alternative), or they just aren't willing to put in the extra work to put in a stream delay. I have rarely seen a player have a positive experience when they interact directly with the chat on their stream. If they're afraid of overlay/other issues, add one of the mods on the stream to battle.net friends and have them message you if somethings wrong.

Either that, or there isn't an accessible way of adding a stream delay.

Some gamers start doing customs after being sniped. Artosis actually has awesome analysis, and I mostly watch for that. He could mass ladder and then go over the replays while streaming.

Leeoku

1617 Posts

January 04 2012 06:22 GMT

#30

cant you just add delay to ur stream.. it's not gona affect the viewers in any way

HuKPOWA

United States1604 Posts

January 04 2012 06:23 GMT

#31

haha this is where risking to stream your games comes in...no one can tell him not to stream snipe...is it wrong? Yes....but Artosis CHOOSES to stream...just like how Deezer/CombatEX Stream cheat high ranking NA players

di3alot

172 Posts

January 04 2012 06:24 GMT

#32

On January 04 2012 15:08 Chessz wrote:
Yea this was really rough for artosis. Unfortunately sometimes I feel that competitive respect is absent from 21st century gaming, particularly online, but i'm not sure what has caused it. Perhaps younger and younger people being raised in an "anonymous" kind of internet culture and immature behavior and thought materializes more easily and frequently than in the past.

nah it was always like that and not only in the internet
even in real sport you get the same shit
bad winners and bad losers are everywhere

stop saying younger people younger people
because you are now that guy that was mentioned in the past to be the worst generation ever
and you do now the same with the current generation "they are the worst eeeevvvveeeer"

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

January 04 2012 06:25 GMT

#33

It's quite naive to think that the community has any control over stream snipers.

"This comment is informed, reasonable, and it makes sense.
You must be new here..."

julianto

2292 Posts

January 04 2012 06:25 GMT

#34

On January 04 2012 15:11 GranDGranT wrote:
Use stream delay.

Yes I do agree with this statement.

JFlynn

United States7 Posts

January 04 2012 06:26 GMT

#35

On January 04 2012 15:23 HuKPOWA wrote:
haha this is where risking to stream your games comes in...no one can tell him not to stream snipe...is it wrong? Yes....but Artosis CHOOSES to stream...just like how Deezer/CombatEX Stream cheat high ranking NA players

'risking to stream your games comes in' what? ? Can't follow this at all...

TheSwamp

United States1497 Posts

January 04 2012 06:27 GMT

#36

On January 04 2012 15:08 TBone- wrote:
I see nothing wrong of the person just wants to play you. But minimizing to get information is rough.

That isn't what the post is about. If it was just a fan that wanted to play their favorite player, no one would care,

PeZuY

935 Posts

January 04 2012 06:28 GMT

#37

I don't understand what is wrong with stream sniping, seriously. Unless they are truely watching the stream while playing, which is not the same as stream sniping, then surely it is wrong, but if people just try to get game against some "pro" player just by checking their streams when they are getting into que, I don't see anything wrong in it.

Grettin

42411 Posts

January 04 2012 06:28 GMT

#38

Can't wait for apologize video.

Falcor

Canada894 Posts

January 04 2012 06:30 GMT

#39

i dont think theres anyway to fix it really. if you stream your going to get sniped. hell i was streaming had 1 viewer..and he sniped me

MichaelDonovan

United States1453 Posts

January 04 2012 06:31 GMT

#40

Do you know why people like Deezer and CombatEX do what they do? They do it so that idiots will make thread posts about it on Team Liquid. Mr Oreo there in the first post is exactly correct. Nothing else needs to be said about it.

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