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On April 12 2014 07:35 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2014 06:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=46412441#post46412441Meanwhile, Forg1ven got fined for getting tons of reports and toxicity in solo queue. I will never understand why do Riot go so hard on players for acting like childs in solo queue, honestly. It was never a problem in DotA and i doubt that it was/is/will be a problem in LoL. On April 12 2014 02:21 AsnSensation wrote:
I guess management's problem is that they "almost made it out of groups" for too long now^^. They want more. Just think about it. After championship in Winter 2012/13, they just got quarterfinals in Spring and then 3 times in a row being eliminated in groupstages, sick. Remember Riot is paying them to play. This isnt like the NFL fining a player for swearing, its more like his team does it. And yes considering the casual nature of LoL the community's toxicity is very much a problem.
It's true that games with a casual nature like dota and LoL will probably attract some more ragers, but in my opinion it's mainly due to them being team games. I mean, I remember raging pretty hard playing StarCraft and blaming everyone and everything but myself sometimes, but you just don't have that immediate outlet (your teammates) - flaming your opponent poses a bit of a higher barrier I think.
However I do agree that in more extreme cases it's totally legitimate for Riot to fine pro players. Maybe some talent can be prevented from shooting themselves in the foot in the long term aswell...
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On April 12 2014 15:33 AlterKot wrote:
I think some people agree that in-game mute is enough to deal with assholes, sticks and stones yadda yadda. I certainly think it's funny that Riot is fining people few hundred dollars because they are mean to randoms in Solo Q, It's definitely in their interest to show that there's no place for ragers in high level league, I just somewhat doubt that a fine to one or two players will change all that much. And it's strictly related to Forgiven-like cases, giving fines for stuff people said in private like Nuke and Mithy is a very bad thing to do.
I think it's pretty simple. Riot is disciplining its players (who are also its employees and public figures). Just like how a football team will discipline its own players for racial offences (which is a subset of verbal abuse) or a company will discipline its workers for harassment cases, Riot puts sanctions and fines its ill-disciplined players. You are looking at it from a video game perspective, i.e. it's not that serious or why does it have to do with money?, but Riot feels that it's their job to take progaming seriously and hold their professional players to a professional standard. I'm also pretty sure Riot would have a code of conduct given to their professional players that stipulates what type of sanctions they will place on what type of offences. It's irrelevant if other game companies don't want to treat progaming that seriously (or even as a real profession), because Riot has always worked to legitimise LoL as a professional sport.
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On April 08 2014 02:58 UmberBane wrote:
LPL rofl.
Also I'm really curious about this MVP thing, they're kind of known for quickly picking up teams and lots of them without second thought. They used to have 3 LoL teams out of nowhere and then when WoT and Dota2 had their appearance in Korea they picked up several teams aswell and now they even have 2 female LoL amateur teams, and their neo-KeSPA SC2 team of course. Wouldn't even surprise me if this team was actually under the MVP flag of the Korean team, with their logo and name and everything being seemingly being the same.
Found a better Russo-Korean team name in the meantime
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How do KR qualifiers work? Is it same as in LCS where X teams from 5s queue get invited to an online qualifier and then things work from there?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 14 2014 01:55 AlterKot wrote:
How do KR qualifiers work? Is it same as in LCS where X teams from 5s queue get invited to an online qualifier and then things work from there?
No.
8 teams from previous season of OGN which were in Ro8 are qualified for next season.
Every amateur team can qualify, there are pre-qualifiers for qualifiers for OGN.
Then they join every team from last season NLB and try to fight for 8 other spots.
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On April 14 2014 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Every amateur team can qualify, there are pre-qualifiers for qualifiers for OGN.
This is what I was asking about. What are these prequalifiers? How do you sign for them?
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On April 14 2014 03:44 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Every amateur team can qualify, there are pre-qualifiers for qualifiers for OGN. This is what I was asking about. What are these prequalifiers? How do you sign for them?
NGTV holds the qualifiers, the signup is done on their site inbetween seasons. The requirements are very lax, just gotta be Gold or above on the KR server
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On April 14 2014 06:13 AlterKot wrote:From this website I saw that there's not so many online qualifiers participants http://lol.gamepedia.com/Champions_Winter_2013-2014/Qualifiers so I was wondering if there's just not so many amateur teams who want to at least try their chances, or is there a big entrance fee or what.
Afaik, they're played on LAN, so probably not every team wanna come and play, especially knowing that you probably have very little chance to qualify.
Right now there is only one amateur team in OGN and they're Midas FIO, basically, instead of JinAir Stealths which they beat.
Plus, right, there are even lesser rounds. #roadtodream
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On April 14 2014 06:13 AlterKot wrote:From this website I saw that there's not so many online qualifiers participants http://lol.gamepedia.com/Champions_Winter_2013-2014/Qualifiers so I was wondering if there's just not so many amateur teams who want to at least try their chances, or is there a big entrance fee or what.
I don't know if that's all of the rounds, I remember in one of the seaasonal qualifiers there were ~400 teams
Edit: I remembered wrong, it was ~140 not 400
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I'm talking about the "Online Preliminaries" section, it's weird that there's a random number of byes if there's "hundreds of teams in initial rounds" but ok.
Only the last part of qualifiers is played offline, once there's 8 teams from online qualifiers, it's all on the page I linked. I hoped someone here knew something beyond what's on leaguepedia page.
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On April 14 2014 07:25 AlterKot wrote:
I'm talking about the "Online Preliminaries" section, it's weird that there's a random number of byes if there's "hundreds of teams in initial rounds" but ok.
Only the last part of qualifiers is played offline, once there's 8 teams from online qualifiers, it's all on the page I linked. I hoped someone here knew something beyond what's on leaguepedia page.
These are the rules: http://www.leagueoflegends.co.kr/?m=esports_intro&mod=esports_newsview&idx=264
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On April 14 2014 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 01:55 AlterKot wrote:
How do KR qualifiers work? Is it same as in LCS where X teams from 5s queue get invited to an online qualifier and then things work from there? No. 8 teams from previous season of OGN which were in Ro8 are qualified for next season. Every amateur team can qualify, there are pre-qualifiers for qualifiers for OGN. Then they join every team from last season NLB and try to fight for 8 other spots.
Technically the winner of NLB gets a spot too, but they're almost always(if not always) a top8 team from Champions anyway.
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so with the changes to curse ownership structure one has to think that curse are looking to pick up a EU LCS team, no?
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On April 16 2014 11:05 Slusher wrote:
so with the changes to curse ownership structure one has to think that curse are looking to pick up a EU LCS team, no?
They've done it before. Not out of the realm of possibility that they'd take a second go at it.
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On April 16 2014 11:05 Slusher wrote:
so with the changes to curse ownership structure one has to think that curse are looking to pick up a EU LCS team, no?
what are the changes?
nvm found it: http://www.ongamers.com/videos/curse-gaming-general-manager-announces-split-from-/2300-473/
Their old EU venture was one of the negative ROI that Steve talks about in the video. They'd be much more cautious of EU now. It all depends on if they can find the right EU sponsors and the right team.
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maybe they needed to do this just to get out of voyboy's contract.
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On April 16 2014 13:31 chalice wrote:
maybe they needed to do this just to get out of voyboy's contract.
Or try and nab Shiphtur or Mancloud if/when their team gets bopped and exploded and move him back to top.
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