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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#2341
Monte has pretty much said no on summoning insight to picking up anyone who isn't properly fluent in English so Koreans are out.
Glorious SEA doto
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 23 2014 20:28 GMT
#2342
Well that's...disappointing.


RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 23 2014 21:02 GMT
#2343
On April 24 2014 05:13 Don_Julio wrote:
Doublelift suggests in his ongamers interview ongamers interview that they will look to Asia and Europe to find a replacement. It's a really good interview, worth checking it out.

So who is out there and has good enough English and League skills to play for CLG?

Zorozero might be the obvious answer depending on if his team makes the LCS, his contract and how much money CLG wants to throw at him.
Maknoon would be funny but I don't think that he suits CLG at all.
Anyone else? Could they just buy ZionSpartan?

Like you said obviously Zorozero would be the one CLG would like to have most, not sure if he would be ready to leave his team though. But maybe the money will convince him. And yes outcome of the relegation will be very important

The other ones in Europe with competetive experience and that might be available are Kev1n and Jwaow. There might be some more in the amateur scene, but CLG is not exactly known for picking up unknown talents. So yeah not really that many possibilities.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 21:12:01
April 23 2014 21:08 GMT
#2344
On April 24 2014 05:13 Don_Julio wrote:
Doublelift suggests in his ongamers interview ongamers interview that they will look to Asia and Europe to find a replacement. It's a really good interview, worth checking it out.

So who is out there and has good enough English and League skills to play for CLG?

Zorozero might be the obvious answer depending on if his team makes the LCS, his contract and how much money CLG wants to throw at him.
Maknoon would be funny but I don't think that he suits CLG at all.
Anyone else? Could they just buy ZionSpartan?


No reason to buy Zion, he's terribly inconsistent and it doesn't solve all problems with CLG toplane which is basically laning phase when Nien rarely WINS, not only going on par.

Zorozero can be terribly expensive for CLG, NiP are big organisation but if they don't make LCS, Heaton might sell him cheaper if it happens.
I still ok with possibility of getting kev1n, there will be no reason for Millenium to have this roster anyway and i expect Creaton and kev1n to search for LCS teams ;_; Ofc if they lose l0l.

Damn it Nien ;_; I really attached to this guy for last 2 splits.

And this Doublelift interview is just like every Liftlift interview - blunt and honest. And he's right about "toplane is accessory right now" and lack of toplane talent in NA.
But i really bet my money on toplaner from NiP/{M}, depending on who loses tonight.
And Jwaow won't leave G2.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 21:18:26
April 23 2014 21:14 GMT
#2345
On April 24 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 05:13 Don_Julio wrote:
Doublelift suggests in his ongamers interview ongamers interview that they will look to Asia and Europe to find a replacement. It's a really good interview, worth checking it out.

So who is out there and has good enough English and League skills to play for CLG?

Zorozero might be the obvious answer depending on if his team makes the LCS, his contract and how much money CLG wants to throw at him.
Maknoon would be funny but I don't think that he suits CLG at all.
Anyone else? Could they just buy ZionSpartan?

Like you said obviously Zorozero would be the one CLG would like to have most, not sure if he would be ready to leave his team though. But maybe the money will convince him. And yes outcome of the relegation will be very important

The other ones in Europe with competetive experience and that might be available are Kev1n and Jwaow. There might be some more in the amateur scene, but CLG is not exactly known for picking up unknown talents. So yeah not really that many possibilities.

Zoro had offers after NiP failed first time and he didn't leave, so this time will be no diffrent.
Also he would take offer from EU team over CLG.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21953 Posts
April 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#2346
On April 24 2014 06:14 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
On April 24 2014 05:13 Don_Julio wrote:
Doublelift suggests in his ongamers interview ongamers interview that they will look to Asia and Europe to find a replacement. It's a really good interview, worth checking it out.

So who is out there and has good enough English and League skills to play for CLG?

Zorozero might be the obvious answer depending on if his team makes the LCS, his contract and how much money CLG wants to throw at him.
Maknoon would be funny but I don't think that he suits CLG at all.
Anyone else? Could they just buy ZionSpartan?

Like you said obviously Zorozero would be the one CLG would like to have most, not sure if he would be ready to leave his team though. But maybe the money will convince him. And yes outcome of the relegation will be very important

The other ones in Europe with competetive experience and that might be available are Kev1n and Jwaow. There might be some more in the amateur scene, but CLG is not exactly known for picking up unknown talents. So yeah not really that many possibilities.

Zoro had offers after NiP failed first time and he didn't leave, so this time will be no diffrent.
Also he would take offer from EU team over CLG.

A lot of things chance in that time frame. And failing promotion the first time is a lot different from doing so again a second time. Esp considering the level of there opposition they will be up against.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 21:30:02
April 23 2014 21:29 GMT
#2347
On April 24 2014 06:14 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
On April 24 2014 05:13 Don_Julio wrote:
Doublelift suggests in his ongamers interview ongamers interview that they will look to Asia and Europe to find a replacement. It's a really good interview, worth checking it out.

So who is out there and has good enough English and League skills to play for CLG?

Zorozero might be the obvious answer depending on if his team makes the LCS, his contract and how much money CLG wants to throw at him.
Maknoon would be funny but I don't think that he suits CLG at all.
Anyone else? Could they just buy ZionSpartan?

Like you said obviously Zorozero would be the one CLG would like to have most, not sure if he would be ready to leave his team though. But maybe the money will convince him. And yes outcome of the relegation will be very important

The other ones in Europe with competetive experience and that might be available are Kev1n and Jwaow. There might be some more in the amateur scene, but CLG is not exactly known for picking up unknown talents. So yeah not really that many possibilities.

Zoro had offers after NiP failed first time and he didn't leave, so this time will be no diffrent.
Also he would take offer from EU team over CLG.


Last time Zoro was getting offers because mithy was going to take a break from Challenger scene because of ping in Spain (it was even before they started to live in gaming house), also hyrqbot said that his time is over. Everyone was concerned for a reason.
This season if they fail it will be a completely different story because if they fail now, they're out of being contenders for Worlds + dexter factor and lack of strong teams in NA is strong. Dexter came and succeed in CLG, why can't Zorozero succeed in "Accessory role", knowing that his jungler with which he was rolling last summer is near him?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 24 2014 03:53 GMT
#2348
Honestly, if Zoro came to NA he wouldn't be an accessory. He'd be a pilot (see: Flame) and carry CLG to championship gold.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 24 2014 09:36 GMT
#2349
Dunno why do people think Zoro is so plausible, to me it seems like he wants to play with Nuke and Mithy, and Freeze is good too, just wait till Amin is of age and he's on top3 EU team. Kev1n on the other hand was my prediction for Nien replacement for long time because 1) he's decent nad probably will be teamless 2) Monte thinks he's good I think? 3) he's part of GEM just like CLG and Monte (and no other LoL pro player), so some possible connections.

Anyway, Nien stepping down is a step in right direction, but I wonder why does he want to stay Top. Is it because he thinks that's where NA lacks the most and still wants to fill that niche, or did he just completely forget how to play ADC to the point of no return? I'd be sad if it was the latter.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 24 2014 13:51 GMT
#2350
On April 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Dunno why do people think Zoro is so plausible, to me it seems like he wants to play with Nuke and Mithy, and Freeze is good too, just wait till Amin is of age and he's on top3 EU team. Kev1n on the other hand was my prediction for Nien replacement for long time because 1) he's decent nad probably will be teamless 2) Monte thinks he's good I think? 3) he's part of GEM just like CLG and Monte (and no other LoL pro player), so some possible connections.

Anyway, Nien stepping down is a step in right direction, but I wonder why does he want to stay Top. Is it because he thinks that's where NA lacks the most and still wants to fill that niche, or did he just completely forget how to play ADC to the point of no return? I'd be sad if it was the latter.


Yellowstar, for example, said in his AMA that he won't be able to play as competitive ad anymore, i don't see why can't Nien feel the same.
And people tend to forget that he was decent midlaner before adc.

Anyway, i guess, we will know in 1-2 weeks who will be new starter for CLG, because split starts in a month and this time CLG can't let 3 weeks just slip up.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 24 2014 15:34 GMT
#2351
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64332
SK prime disbands, two SKP players to retire. Only confirmation is that mozilla will not retire
https://www.facebook.com/LoLMozilla/posts/868508133176048?stream_ref=10
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 19:28:27
April 24 2014 20:45 GMT
#2352
Btw, Riot announced teams for All-Stars.

Fire - Diamondprox as a captain, Bjergsen, Shy, Weixiao and QTV. +Toyz for Hexakill
Ice - Froggen as a captain, Doublelift, Madlife, Caomei and Archie. +Misaya for Hexakill

Doublelift-Madlife botlane #thedream <33
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 01:27:31
April 25 2014 01:23 GMT
#2353
On April 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Kev1n on the other hand was my prediction for Nien replacement for long time because 1) he's decent nad probably will be teamless 2) Monte thinks he's good I think? 3) he's part of GEM just like CLG and Monte (and no other LoL pro player), so some possible connections.

i didn't know what GEM was so i looked it up and i noticed that kev1n isn't actually their only client listed as a league player on the website, they also have some guy who goes by LS and seems to be very popular on TL.

CLG has said that they will look to recruit from asia as well as europe, but that they also require fluent english. an american born GEM client living in korea would have like 2-3x the monte connections that kev1n does right? especially when you consider that monte is always trying to learn more about korean coaching methods, who better to add to the team than someone who has spent time living in a korean gaming house?

all the evidence clearly points to CLG.LastShadow imo. i mean he might not be better than kev1n and zorozero now, but CLG roster decisions are all about that potential.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 25 2014 03:12 GMT
#2354
On April 25 2014 10:23 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Kev1n on the other hand was my prediction for Nien replacement for long time because 1) he's decent nad probably will be teamless 2) Monte thinks he's good I think? 3) he's part of GEM just like CLG and Monte (and no other LoL pro player), so some possible connections.

i didn't know what GEM was so i looked it up and i noticed that kev1n isn't actually their only client listed as a league player on the website, they also have some guy who goes by LS and seems to be very popular on TL.

CLG has said that they will look to recruit from asia as well as europe, but that they also require fluent english. an american born GEM client living in korea would have like 2-3x the monte connections that kev1n does right? especially when you consider that monte is always trying to learn more about korean coaching methods, who better to add to the team than someone who has spent time living in a korean gaming house?

all the evidence clearly points to CLG.LastShadow imo. i mean he might not be better than kev1n and zorozero now, but CLG roster decisions are all about that potential.

Uhhh....
God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 25 2014 03:13 GMT
#2355
On April 25 2014 10:23 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 18:36 AlterKot wrote:
Kev1n on the other hand was my prediction for Nien replacement for long time because 1) he's decent nad probably will be teamless 2) Monte thinks he's good I think? 3) he's part of GEM just like CLG and Monte (and no other LoL pro player), so some possible connections.

i didn't know what GEM was so i looked it up and i noticed that kev1n isn't actually their only client listed as a league player on the website, they also have some guy who goes by LS and seems to be very popular on TL.

CLG has said that they will look to recruit from asia as well as europe, but that they also require fluent english. an american born GEM client living in korea would have like 2-3x the monte connections that kev1n does right? especially when you consider that monte is always trying to learn more about korean coaching methods, who better to add to the team than someone who has spent time living in a korean gaming house?

all the evidence clearly points to CLG.LastShadow imo. i mean he might not be better than kev1n and zorozero now, but CLG roster decisions are all about that potential.


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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 25 2014 03:53 GMT
#2356
--- Nuked ---
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
April 25 2014 06:49 GMT
#2357
CLG.lastshadow? Lol this is hilarious. From what I understand, LS is part of that GEM group because he's part of that "clique" of artosis, tasteless, chobra, doa etc. and they're all heavily involved with this.

Also saying hat ls is popular on TL is pretty off I'd say. He's definitely very known and equally controversial, though.

But who the fuck knows. Personally I don't think Nick would even want to leave Korea at all.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 25 2014 09:44 GMT
#2358
Oh god CLG ls, fuck zorozero this is the new hypetrain
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 09:50:49
April 25 2014 09:50 GMT
#2359
No more trolling about LS plz. I understand that this all started out of naivety.

Thanks.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
April 25 2014 14:12 GMT
#2360
On April 25 2014 18:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
No more trolling about LS plz. I understand that this all started out of naivety.

Thanks.

sorry, i literally had no idea anyone would take that post seriously and thought that in the context of recent GD discussion that statements like "lastshadow seems to be really popular on TL" and "clg is all about potential" would make the intent of my post obvious.
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