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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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bobohobo
Canada69 Posts
1. Naniwa didn't have a code S seed. He merely was being considered as one of the two invites. 2. There was always meant to be two code S invites. Due to Naniwa's lack of professionalism, they decided to invite Sen and Idra instead. 3. People don't actually know what's written in the contracts nor do people know how the Korean legal system works. So stop talking as if GOM can't legally do this and do that. You don't know anything. | ||
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DjSweetBazz
Sweden172 Posts
Banned from IEM Now banned from GSL, haha this guy never learns He had it coming, calling MLG a joke tournament in front of a huge audience, calling nestea an idiot, refusing to shake hands with drg, and now refusing to play a game he was paid to play He may get away with it in the western countries but in Korea if you dont know what the word respect is you better go home, he acted like an a**hole and he should be treated like one, good decision by GOM, I'm buying my tickets this season  | ||
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Caltu
60 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:40 Bleb wrote: anyone wanna start petition to send whitera and sheth to korea for a few months to make us look better : ) ? Just send them and bring everyone else home  | ||
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Trsjnica
United States477 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:38 Giriath wrote: You ignore that there had to have been a contract between him and GomTV. Since they chose not to use a rule stating "this player has to play at least 4 games", such a rule did not exist. Instead they used a borderline illegal rule, that would not pass in a court of law. A rule they have never enforced previously, even though if what NaNiWa did can be considered as breaking it, then GomTV have disregarded tens or even hundreds of previous incidents where it was broken, without punishing the players involved. GomTV has, in addition to acting more arrogant and amateurish than NaNiWa ever has, acted illegally. As a lawyer, I have to say, arguing over a contract we haven't seen and may or may not exist is futile. There had to have been a contract (written or oral) between Naniwa and GOM for the tournament he played in. There did not have to be a contract with him for a future tournament that hasn't begun yet, which Naniwa believed he would get to play in. (And would have, had he simply 4-gated/etc.) Further, you are not a Korean lawyer, and have no basis for stating what would or would not pass in a Korean court of law. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
Again fair or unfair that's how the world works, GOM felt he basically gave them the finger so they gave him one back. | ||
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Master_Blaster
United Kingdom269 Posts
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dqrull
Sweden64 Posts
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
It's true that in professional sports teams will field their B-listers in games that 'don't matter'. They will not instruct their B-listers - say in an NBA game - to only move around the basketball court via cartwheel. I don't know how the State of the Game crew will come down on this matter, but it's obvious, one hundred per cent obvious, that they feel Naniwa was out of line in what he did. I suspect they'll agree that his being uninvited to Code S is harsh, but I bet they won't condemn GomTV. I'm reminded that his team put out a tweet reminding all of their followers that Naniwa vs Nestea was about to happen. I wonder if his team put up that tweet because they were so proud of advertising that Naniwa was about to 100% phone it in? Naniwa does not just represent himself anymore. nobody who wants to call themselves a professional does. This was why SlayersCoca got EVISCERATED by Slayers after his behaviour. He brought - in theory at least - his entire team into disrepute. That can't be allowed to stand. Quantic may choose not to punish Naniwa, but I bet they weren't pleased either, and most importantly, GomTV felt disrespected, they felt he disrespected the GSL stage, and they've sent a clear message that they're not putting up with that. If he wants to do ceremonies after a match, he can have fun with that, but you don't piss about IN THE GAME. In my opinion, just loading up a game does not count as playing it. Nor does executing a 'strategy' with a 0% win rate which requires two less keyboard presses than simply typing GG and surrendering inside ten seconds. | ||
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Corrupted
United States1255 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:40 Firebolt145 wrote: I just hope Naniwa doesn't take hold a massive grudge about this and refuse to ever go back to GSL. Unfortunately I don't think that that's too unlikely. (sup double negative) It's no loss to gom if naniwa chooses not to compete in GSL in the future. It's a life lesson for naniwa and it's really like the 10th+ life lesson for him now. Whether he chooses to learn from this and change to be a more respectful person is up to him. Given his past history, I'm not too optimistic about that. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:40 Femari wrote: Do you realize they have rules in place that allow them to void said privelages. And last time I checked it wasn't official due to the new format. Do you understand law? Any rule that is not on his contract can not be used to revoke what he, according to the contract, has a right to. | ||
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Saiwa
Germany789 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:36 whereyouat wrote: Yep only it wasnt the players, it was their organizers and they didn't have enough money to send them over. Totally different scenario. derp. NASL provided them with whatever they needed, raised the amount of money but they still wanted more ... And Choya saying in his Twitter that he is a bastard or what ever should just stfu ... | ||
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria855 Posts
It was a Blizzard cup right? I think Blizzard ( no GOM ) should ban Naniwa for life for spatting in the faces of the whole community. No Blizzard games for him anymore. Fingerprints ban. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:36 lee365 wrote: Drones beat probes 1v1 and you can cancel the pool and build 3 drones Assuming you micro them, according to wolf Nani didn't even had his hands on his keyboard while the attack was happening. Anyways, regarding Naniwa earning himself the code S seed: Sorry, but I can only laugh about that. Yes, he definitely earned himself the invite to the blizzard cup because he posted great results, but there is only one way to EARN code S: and that is going through code A. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:41 SpiffD wrote: People defending GOM. What if nani had made a half assed 4 gate, floating resouces while amoving into his opponents base and then gg'ing. Would that have been okay or is that still disrespectful? Where is the line? Then we just would've said Naniwa is having a giant breakdown and then Naniwa fans hope he doesn't say something stupid again like implicating himself of throwing the game. I mean people would've been suspicious but logically him having a breakdown is absolutely plausible given how he acts. Basically if he didn't straight up throw the game and tried to hide it instead he would've been absolutely fine. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:39 Giriath wrote: Excuse? Have you ever heard of a contract? Do you understand that breaking them is illegal? lmao. lets hear about this awesome contract that you know GOM signed with Naniwa before the tournament. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1680 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:28 diophan wrote: Actually your example is hilarious, since teams are not allowed to throw games in the NHL, NFL, MLB, etc. What is hilarious is that in British English football means soccer ok and not American football. And hell yeah there is nothing that doesn't allow you to lose a game on purpose, and you have tons of different way to do it...Like making play all your youngsters in a competition that is not worth the effort for your main team... | ||
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atomic55
United States42 Posts
Maybe this will teach Naniwa that hes not hot shit and he needs to respect tournaments and staff more because without tournys Naniwa will need to learn how to flip burgers. IDC ban me but someone had to say it User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
Sucks for nani - GL in whatever you try to do next | ||
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