9/11/1973 remember victims of Chile coup d'état - Page 4

On September 11 2011 23:53 Paperplane wrote:
Instead of turning this into a 30 page flame fest let's just calm down for a second. It doesn't matter if this was a troll or not. I can understand many feel very emotional about this day but please just instead of flaming on forums spend this day doing what really matters.
Honoring the dead, both Chilean and American.

On September 12 2011 00:09 pippo_jedi wrote:
Hi,
too many post to quote, so sorry if I miss something and if it's a little non-linear

First of all, as I wrote on the note, all the people that are making comparison between the coup in 1973 and the terrorist acts on the twin towers are, in my opinion, ASSHOLES, both the kind: the one that says x death are more than y deaths trying to "defend" to OP or the ones the says that I opened this thread to troll the victims of the 9/11: I explicitly asked to stay away from that as it is disrespectful and has nothing to do with the events of 1973.

As I stated the purpose of this tread is to remember, to inform people about an event that i consider important. Are there other important events in history that should be remembered? yes, opening a thread about one does not make the others less significant, though.
And anyone not thinking is important can simply ignore this thread: I do not post on the My Little Pony thread as i find it not interesting.

I mentioned USA involvement because it's a thing worth mentioning: not so many people are aware of that but I also pointed to the wiki and encouraged to read more on that so anyone can form his own idea and not be biased by what, very little in truth, I wrote.

To DaCruise: I am one of those that every year post something about this on facebook or social networks, since i consider myself part of TL community I also wrote it here. It is not my intent to be disrespectful to the ones who died on 9/11/2001 and I feel bad for the ones that can feel hurt by this thread, but this thread has nothing to do with them.

someone made i point that I'm italian and that they hope i'm a least from chile: 1) one has not to be from chile to be informed about it and to write about it, to suggest otherwise sounds silly to me 2) As it happens when I was around 2 my family took some refugees from Chile, do that piece of personal information validate my entire thread? not really, just wrote it to underline how that argument is weak. Is as if someone (ad hitlerum quote now) has to be Hebrew to discuss about holocaust, or japanese about hirosihma...

A couple of posts wrote that by writing this, it's inevitable to make comparisons as it is a elephant in the room. Well: as the opener of this thread i have the right to ask not to talk about some things: it was clear to me that i would have attracted criticism for doing it but I wanted also to make clear that my idea was another one. If people don't believe me and think i'm lying, that i'ìm a troll, well: they are entitled to have their opinion, i'm not a TL veteran and have not a long reputation so it's ok, i expect that, i only ask to be polite and don't derail this thread: you have made your point, now we can move on and be spared the long series of "F##KING TROLL" post?

If you think i'm a troll you are feeding the troll, so stop now: you're already warned the community of this, more is just feeding.
If i'm not, you're attracting one or you're derailing the thread.

Peace

On September 12 2011 00:22 DamageControL wrote:
Tragedy is tragedy.

On September 12 2011 00:24 Navillus wrote:

If you are going to on the tenth anniversary of the biggest tragedy in the US in recent memory make some thread about how all of these people died due to US foreign policy you better as fuck have actual sources for what you're claiming, especially if you're claiming 30,000 people died when the only article that you linked makes it look like at most 1,000, sure I'll accept that most people that disappeared are probably dead and that we should include deaths on days after, but only after you actually give us a freaking source, until then you should either change the OP to reflect the numbers that we're reading or stop making this claim altogether.

On September 11 2011 23:44 Grumbels wrote:
I found http://ziomania.com/articles2011/03/50.htm on google which says the official number of deaths is roughly 3000, but there are 'credible estimates' that the real number is between three and ten times as much. So potentially there have been 30k killed, although I guess it'd be fairer to say between 10 and 30k.

In any case, I suppose this topic is controversial, but I hope people will realize that there have been a lot more massacres and mass killings than just 9/11 and it's not a bad thing to also remember the less-known ones.

On September 11 2011 22:41 DaCruise wrote:


Sure it is. Just dont use the 10 year anniversary of what happened in the US as an excuse for doing it.....

On September 12 2011 00:43 g. wrote:


I'm going to be brutally honest in saying that the media has a large role to play in this. No, im not one of those "OMG MEDIA ZIONIST PIGS CONTROL THE LAND" sort of people but clearly the media does come into effect in this case. Compared to other events in recent history, 9/11 is a minor blip on a radar filled with mass genocides (in some cases upto 20% of a countrys population killed) and other brutal acts of the lifes of innocent civilians whether it by by their goverments or some rogue group.

In other words, would we be standing here to day commemorating the lives lost of people in a terrorist attack if the events of 9/11 were to have happened in Johannesburg, South Africa rather than than New York. Can you tell me the date and time of the terrorist attacks on London, Madrid or Bali (off the top head)? How many innocent lives were lost in India/Pakistan in 1947? But I'm sure that most of us could answer these questions if they were asked about 9/11. Why is that?

Why do we remember those who have died on 9/11 but only a few of us can commemorate the thousands of people who die each day due to poverty or those who have died in the past because of rogue terrorist groups or corrupt governments? It really comes down to what we hear, see and read about about how the media prioritises these events.

Please dont take this out of context and turn my words into "OH HE HATES AMERICA, WHO CARES ABOUT 9/11 BLAH BLAH BLAH SOCIAL ENGINEERING ZIONIST" because your missing the point.

RIP. All innocent lives lost, under any circumastance, at anytime in history, for what ever reason.

tlrd; what makes 9/11 so special when there have been countless of acts, hundreds of times worse than what happened on 9/11.