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On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts
First you have to buy the game.
Then you have to buy the first expansion.
Then you have to buy the second expansion.
Then you have to buy the third expansion.
Now you can play the game.
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On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o
With all of the expansions.
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Always sucks to see this happen to someone. Obviously he didn't mean to.. People go too far with bans IMO, GM wanted a big promotion. Edit: wow reading through these comments. Absolutely retarded, Grow up people..
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On July 19 2011 10:26 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts First you have to buy the game. Then you have to buy the first expansion. Then you have to buy the second expansion. Then you have to buy the third expansion. Now you can play the game.
Don't forget gamecard(s).
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On July 19 2011 10:29 eYeball wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:26 Medrea wrote:On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts First you have to buy the game. Then you have to buy the first expansion. Then you have to buy the second expansion. Then you have to buy the third expansion. Now you can play the game. Don't forget gamecard(s).
Well yeah and keep subscribing.
Point being "ROFL BUY ANOTHER ACCOUNT NOOB" is a lot heavier in WoW.
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This is honestly just fucking pathetic. Swifty mass promotes Blizzard's game by spreading it across youtube and live streams, has probably recruited hundreds if not thousands of people to the game. Now he's permabanned for organizing a live event which continued to promote the game, it also happened to crash one of Blizzard's servers because they apparently can't afford good enough servers to handle that many people despite making hundreds of millions of dollars off of wow subs and game sales.
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On July 19 2011 10:30 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:29 eYeball wrote:On July 19 2011 10:26 Medrea wrote:On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts First you have to buy the game. Then you have to buy the first expansion. Then you have to buy the second expansion. Then you have to buy the third expansion. Now you can play the game. Don't forget gamecard(s). Well yeah and keep subscribing. Point being "ROFL BUY ANOTHER ACCOUNT NOOB" is a lot heavier in WoW. Yeah sure, but for a populair guy with a bunch of subscribers on Youtube it really shouldn't be a problem (Money wise)  Losing all chars achivements (FOTS especially) really gotta suck tho
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I find him very annoying personally, but this is a terrible decision by Blizzard. Do they realize how many people he brings to WoW with his subscription base? It's free advertising. Why does this always seem to happen, companies just don't get it man..
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It's blizzards fault for not having a cut-off limit on the amount of players that can logon on one server. Why wasnt there a login queue of some sort implemented when the server reaches capacity? It's just another way for blizzard to not admit fault and pass the blame without getting their hands dirty or taking responsibility for poor prep and not taking the proper precautions if an event of this magnitude were to ever occur.
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On July 19 2011 04:44 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 04:33 Xiron wrote:On July 19 2011 04:21 zeru wrote: Well deserved. Pretty stupid thing to do. Reminds me of idra telling people to spam chill on TL... kind of. They should've banned everyone participating too. OMFG SIR, you are disgusting beyond belief. They had NO intention in crashing the server. They had no intention in harming ANYONE. they just wanted to have some fun together with 1000 people. They did nothing wrong at all. You better learn to think or go out some times, because you are socially more than awkward, just from what I can read in your post. Calm down lol. Apparently he crashed the server more than once. It's blizzard's game to do with what they like, if he broke the TOS somehow then they are well within their rights to ban him. It doesn't mean they're morally justified in doing it considering the amount of promotion Swifty's done over the years for the game. Just because they can doesn't mean people should be ok with them doing it. Also, how is it against the ToS to tell people to log onto the game?
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I just cant believe the drop hacking scandal goes on for like 7 days+ and this guy does 1 thing and hes gone lol.
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On July 19 2011 10:46 thane wrote: I just cant believe the drop hacking scandal goes on for like 7 days+ and this guy does 1 thing and hes gone lol.
Yeah, I totally agree, llololol, since there was only 1 guy drophacking, it shouldn't have been so long, lolololol, I mean, it's not like there was hundreds of people drophacking......
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On July 19 2011 10:35 Xevious wrote: This is honestly just fucking pathetic. Swifty mass promotes Blizzard's game by spreading it across youtube and live streams, has probably recruited hundreds if not thousands of people to the game. Now he's permabanned for organizing a live event which continued to promote the game, it also happened to crash one of Blizzard's servers because they apparently can't afford good enough servers to handle that many people despite making hundreds of millions of dollars off of wow subs and game sales.
There's a difference between "good enough servers" and "servers that can handle thousands of new people making new characters and spamming the chat ALL AT ONCE." No server can fucking handle that. None.
It'd be one thing if he did this once. I remember a time back when Horde was attacking Ironforge, so some guy had everyone in the area make a level one mage and spam "Conjure Water" or whatever it's called in the king's chamber. It spammed out the server and it crashed. So the world reset, and the Horde would have had to fight their way there all over again. They did that once, then went about their day.
This guy did it how many times? Three? The first time would have been a "Oh shit, we did that. Shouldn't do it again" type of thing. But he probably laughed, then said "Well, let's try again" and did it two more times. That goes beyond an accident and into purposefully screwing with WoW's servers for the lulz. Dude should have known better.
And 150,000 subscribers is what percentage out of the 7 million currently subscribed? I know not one of my friends even know who he is. He had a following, but if you go ask a random server in Trade Chat "Hey, who's Swifty," the odds you'd get more than twenty people saying they know him are insanely low. It sounds like some guy who got sponsored by Razer got stupid, and so the vocal minority are raising hell over it. You know what? He was being stupid. It's the same thing when a kid breaks his leg by jumping from the ceiling of his house. You'd say "Well, kid was being stupid. Take him to the hospital." Swifty was being stupid, ban his ass.
And saying "it's safe to say" that he makes his living off of this is hilarious. We don't know how much Razer is paying him, and we don't know how much Youtube is paying him for his cut of the ad revenue from those subscribers. Dude could be an investment banker for all we know and works from home. No need for assumptions.
On July 19 2011 10:26 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts First you have to buy the game. Then you have to buy the first expansion. Then you have to buy the second expansion. Then you have to buy the third expansion. Now you can play the game.
They've bundled all of that together by now. He'd have to pay full price for Cata probably, but you can basically upgrade from Vanilla-->BC-->WOTLK for probably 50 bucks. They'd get 100 bucks from him that they didn't have before. Are you really trying to make that argument?
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On July 19 2011 10:41 m2e wrote: It's blizzards fault for not having a cut-off limit on the amount of players that can logon on one server. Why wasnt there a login queue of some sort implemented when the server reaches capacity? It's just another way for blizzard to not admit fault and pass the blame without getting their hands dirty or taking responsibility for poor prep and not taking the proper precautions if an event of this magnitude were to ever occur.
They have had that for almost all of the entire life of WoW.
The problem is number of people logged into the same game space. A server can easily hold 5k people in separate lands but when all of them are in the same spot the amount of traffic that gets multiplied (geometrically) is beyond the limitations of modern technology.
"Get good enough servers" does not apply here because it has yet to be invented.
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On July 19 2011 10:35 Xevious wrote: This is honestly just fucking pathetic. Swifty mass promotes Blizzard's game by spreading it across youtube and live streams, has probably recruited hundreds if not thousands of people to the game. Now he's permabanned for organizing a live event which continued to promote the game, it also happened to crash one of Blizzard's servers because they apparently can't afford good enough servers to handle that many people despite making hundreds of millions of dollars off of wow subs and game sales. This
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On July 19 2011 11:10 spacek wrote: he's unbanned
A quote from Razer: Update: Swifty got unbanned. Stay tuned on his channel. Thanks to everyone for their support. http://www.facebook.com/razer?sk=wall
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On July 19 2011 11:10 spacek wrote: he's unbanned
^ heh
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On July 19 2011 10:59 Mauldo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:35 Xevious wrote: This is honestly just fucking pathetic. Swifty mass promotes Blizzard's game by spreading it across youtube and live streams, has probably recruited hundreds if not thousands of people to the game. Now he's permabanned for organizing a live event which continued to promote the game, it also happened to crash one of Blizzard's servers because they apparently can't afford good enough servers to handle that many people despite making hundreds of millions of dollars off of wow subs and game sales. There's a difference between "good enough servers" and "servers that can handle thousands of new people making new characters and spamming the chat ALL AT ONCE." No server can fucking handle that. None. It'd be one thing if he did this once. I remember a time back when Horde was attacking Ironforge, so some guy had everyone in the area make a level one mage and spam "Conjure Water" or whatever it's called in the king's chamber. It spammed out the server and it crashed. So the world reset, and the Horde would have had to fight their way there all over again. They did that once, then went about their day. This guy did it how many times? Three? The first time would have been a "Oh shit, we did that. Shouldn't do it again" type of thing. But he probably laughed, then said "Well, let's try again" and did it two more times. That goes beyond an accident and into purposefully screwing with WoW's servers for the lulz. Dude should have known better. And 150,000 subscribers is what percentage out of the 7 million currently subscribed? I know not one of my friends even know who he is. He had a following, but if you go ask a random server in Trade Chat "Hey, who's Swifty," the odds you'd get more than twenty people saying they know him are insanely low. It sounds like some guy who got sponsored by Razer got stupid, and so the vocal minority are raising hell over it. You know what? He was being stupid. It's the same thing when a kid breaks his leg by jumping from the ceiling of his house. You'd say "Well, kid was being stupid. Take him to the hospital." Swifty was being stupid, ban his ass. And saying "it's safe to say" that he makes his living off of this is hilarious. We don't know how much Razer is paying him, and we don't know how much Youtube is paying him for his cut of the ad revenue from those subscribers. Dude could be an investment banker for all we know and works from home. No need for assumptions. Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:26 Medrea wrote:On July 19 2011 10:20 NotSorry wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 Z3kk wrote: So can he or can he not just buy another account? o_o Yes he can just buy another account and already has many other accounts First you have to buy the game. Then you have to buy the first expansion. Then you have to buy the second expansion. Then you have to buy the third expansion. Now you can play the game. They've bundled all of that together by now. He'd have to pay full price for Cata probably, but you can basically upgrade from Vanilla-->BC-->WOTLK for probably 50 bucks. They'd get 100 bucks from him that they didn't have before. Are you really trying to make that argument?
Swifty is well known in the WoW community, even on the European servers. If you asked on a US server in trade chat assuming people actually respond and don't tell you to stop using trade for useless shit, I would expect way over 20.
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I unbanned him, close thread
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