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mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
July 06 2011 19:22 GMT
#461
after reading most of the responses I changed my mind since making this thread. I think our justice system is good and that public opinion should not be the deciding factor in a case, I think the verdict was correct and although when we think about it something is definitely up there is nothing you can really do about it. I think the biggest thing we can learn from this is how manipulating the media can be, people just blindly watch it and believe she should be guilty. they dont know how the justice system works but just because the whole situation is whacky they think she should be thrown in jail.

its also upsetting how this terrible person has a good chance to be set for life.
Spell_Crafted
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States192 Posts
July 06 2011 19:26 GMT
#462
I didn't follow the trial at all, but I just wanted to say I'm always a bit cautious when people are assumed guilty as soon as they're brought to trial for something. What ever happened to, "innocent until proven guilty"?
I mean, it's completely possible she did it, but that's the job of the state to wait until they have enough evidence to move forward and prove their case. It's not like they have a statute of limitations in the case of murder.
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Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
July 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#463
The sanctity of 'Innocent until proven guilty' is something most posters in this thread need to understand.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
July 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#464
Someone needs to bring MSM pundits to court for slander. I'm still pissed off at Nancy Grace for what she did to the Duke Lacrosse players.
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 19:30:49
July 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#465
On July 07 2011 04:09 Eknoid4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 03:12 TheResidentEvil wrote:
This case is upsetting all around. The police were told about the remains in august and they dont ever go. The guy who found them had already called 3 times and checked again 4 months later and they were still there. The state says not finding the body for so long really hurt their case and they let it sit there for 4 months!

The girl is so guilty is not even funny but there isn't hard evidence there. It is all circumstantial but her actions are so ridiculous you know she did it. The only way I get any kind of solace out of this is to really hope that she drowned accidentally and was not murdered. The chloroform searches and the body shown in the trunk of the car really dilute that though.

I will not read her book, i will not watch her show ever and I hope you people do the same. We should not make criminals into celebrities. So many lies. How could they not even get her on child abuse?

I have no sympathy for people. I wish we had stricter laws like in China. I honestly believe murderers should just be murdered. Not in this case but if its so obvious someone committed murder and no way to say they didn't, they should just be killed and be done with.


Go have fun being the only country in the world more obnoxiously patriotic and abusive than America then. If you really don't understand how she wasn't convicted, you really have no right to claim that anyone should or shouldn't do anything about this case. it is blatantly obvious and directly stated why she was not convicted. if the state could just murder anyone who "everybody knows is a murderer anyway" without enough evidence They could just falsify a lot of circumstancial evidence against literally everyone and anyone and convict them of anything.

but i guess you DO want to go live in china, so maybe you would enjoy that.


maybe you should read the next line after what you bolded where i said, NOT IN THIS CASE. Thanks crusader
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
July 06 2011 19:50 GMT
#466
On July 07 2011 04:21 teamsolid wrote:We all know that Casey was lying to law enforcement, to her parents, to the legal system. But once it's found out that your testimony is a lie, and you're being accused of murder shouldn't you be FORCED to come out with a new testimony that isn't a "lie"? Why the fuck is the accused just allowed to lie about everything, but not actually have to present their version of the "truth"? I mean eventually, if you dug deep enough and she was the murderer, all of her "stories" would've fell apart.

This is just mind-boggling to me. Why wasn't she forced to explain to detectives during earlier investigations exactly how Caylee went missing once it was clear that her stories were complete bullshit? If she doesn't even need a reasonable story to be deemed not guilty of murder, what the fuck is wrong with this legal system?


Everyone has a fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination.

It's the job of law enforcement and the prosecution to somehow get the truth out of her anyway, but they've clearly failed here.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
July 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#467
I read the full recap of it. Prosecutors and defense. Some justice when your only defense is to say "Well I probably got off work early," "lots of people search 'chloroform' and 'how to make chloroform'", "plenty of cars smell like decomposing flesh," "I didn't report my child's death because my dad molestered me," etc., etc.

I'm sorry but just being a month late in reporting that your child is missing should count for something.
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sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
July 06 2011 19:56 GMT
#468
On July 07 2011 04:54 Shamrock_ wrote:I'm sorry but just being a month late in reporting that your child is missing should count for something.


Sure, but that would be gross parental negligence, which is not the crime being prosecuted for here.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
July 06 2011 20:02 GMT
#469
On July 07 2011 04:56 sunprince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:54 Shamrock_ wrote:I'm sorry but just being a month late in reporting that your child is missing should count for something.


Sure, but that would be gross parental negligence, which is not the crime being prosecuted for here.


It will be the crime soon enough. They are gonna try to pin her on everything possible now that murder has been eliminated from the list of opportunities. And rightfully so.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
July 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#470
On July 07 2011 00:27 Sm3agol wrote:
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On July 06 2011 14:12 Microchaton wrote:
Just as a distraction, would you please direct me to the american websites with the more crazy comments about that story ? :D

Glad someone mentionned 12 Angry men, every jury member should be forced to watch that movie.


The fark?

NO. That is about the worst possible movie anyone that is going to be a juror should watch. Conducting your own private investigation (illegal) and biasing a jury based on said private investigation (illegal) is definitely not what we need to have going on in our courtrooms.


What movie are you talking about? In 12 angry men there is no private investigation going on. It's the jury looking at the evidence one more time and reaching the right verdict.

And fyi, private investigation is not illegal. Either that or someone forgot to tell this to all the private investigators that are doing business in your country.

12 angry men should definitely be a movie to watch if you're going to be in a jury.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:14:49
July 06 2011 20:13 GMT
#471
On July 07 2011 05:08 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 00:27 Sm3agol wrote:
On July 06 2011 14:12 Microchaton wrote:
Just as a distraction, would you please direct me to the american websites with the more crazy comments about that story ? :D

Glad someone mentionned 12 Angry men, every jury member should be forced to watch that movie.


The fark?

NO. That is about the worst possible movie anyone that is going to be a juror should watch. Conducting your own private investigation (illegal) and biasing a jury based on said private investigation (illegal) is definitely not what we need to have going on in our courtrooms.


What movie are you talking about? In 12 angry men there is no private investigation going on. It's the jury looking at the evidence one more time and reaching the right verdict.

And fyi, private investigation is not illegal. Either that or someone forgot to tell this to all the private investigators that are doing business in your country.

12 angry men should definitely be a movie to watch if you're going to be in a jury.


I don't know about the truth to his statement, but I don't think he meant private investigation overall, he was talking about privately investigating into a case for which you are a juror.

Also, that did happen in the movie, the part where the guy pulls out his own rendition of the pocket knife that the boy was accused of using to kill his father, he then affirms that he went and bought it after conducting some investigation into the commonality of such a knife, that consists a private investigation.

Also, I don't think 12 Angry Men is the greatest film to watch if you're going to in a jury.
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:18:01
July 06 2011 20:16 GMT
#472
I just don't know..... time to switch to a professional jury system like in France?
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 06 2011 20:17 GMT
#473
On July 07 2011 04:22 mewby wrote:
after reading most of the responses I changed my mind since making this thread. I think our justice system is good and that public opinion should not be the deciding factor in a case, I think the verdict was correct and although when we think about it something is definitely up there is nothing you can really do about it. I think the biggest thing we can learn from this is how manipulating the media can be, people just blindly watch it and believe she should be guilty. they dont know how the justice system works but just because the whole situation is whacky they think she should be thrown in jail.

its also upsetting how this terrible person has a good chance to be set for life.

Set for life? Financially, maybe. I look at it like this; anywhere she goes in North America, most people are going to recognize and instinctively hate her. I don't think she's going to have it too easy, tbh.
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
July 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#474
On July 07 2011 05:17 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:22 mewby wrote:
after reading most of the responses I changed my mind since making this thread. I think our justice system is good and that public opinion should not be the deciding factor in a case, I think the verdict was correct and although when we think about it something is definitely up there is nothing you can really do about it. I think the biggest thing we can learn from this is how manipulating the media can be, people just blindly watch it and believe she should be guilty. they dont know how the justice system works but just because the whole situation is whacky they think she should be thrown in jail.

its also upsetting how this terrible person has a good chance to be set for life.

Set for life? Financially, maybe. I look at it like this; anywhere she goes in North America, most people are going to recognize and instinctively hate her. I don't think she's going to have it too easy, tbh.


A lot easier than being in prison for the rest of her life.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 06 2011 20:22 GMT
#475
On July 07 2011 05:19 -Switch- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 05:17 3clipse wrote:
On July 07 2011 04:22 mewby wrote:
after reading most of the responses I changed my mind since making this thread. I think our justice system is good and that public opinion should not be the deciding factor in a case, I think the verdict was correct and although when we think about it something is definitely up there is nothing you can really do about it. I think the biggest thing we can learn from this is how manipulating the media can be, people just blindly watch it and believe she should be guilty. they dont know how the justice system works but just because the whole situation is whacky they think she should be thrown in jail.

its also upsetting how this terrible person has a good chance to be set for life.

Set for life? Financially, maybe. I look at it like this; anywhere she goes in North America, most people are going to recognize and instinctively hate her. I don't think she's going to have it too easy, tbh.


A lot easier than being in prison for the rest of her life.

True, unless someone decides to extract vigilante justice and kill her. That's easier on the outside.
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
July 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#476
On July 07 2011 05:02 Mr Showtime wrote:
It will be the crime soon enough. They are gonna try to pin her on everything possible now that murder has been eliminated from the list of opportunities. And rightfully so.


It looks like they already pursued the other charges that they thought they could get a conviction for, given that she was found guilty of lying to the police.
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#477
On July 06 2011 03:29 scur2d2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:26 Modeath wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:25 sanya wrote:
FINALLY

white people can stop complaining about O.J
good job america

WAY DIFF oj killed his cheating skank of a wife. This woman Held a 3yo's head underwater, or Sufficated her till she drowned then dumped the body.


Apparently she did not do any of it.


No, apparently there wasn't sufficient evidence to convict her.
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
July 06 2011 21:09 GMT
#478
I'm confused, If Casey was proven guilty of lying to investigators, wouldn't that be evidence that she was trying to cover up the death of her daughter?

Also the evidence are so stacked against Casey, I can't believe she walked away with only 4 charges of what is equivalent to a misdemeanor. I expected she be charged with murder, if not then negligent manslaughter.

bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
July 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#479
On July 07 2011 06:09 MetalLobster wrote:
I'm confused, If Casey was proven guilty of lying to investigators, wouldn't that be evidence that she was trying to cover up the death of her daughter?

The death, maybe. The murder? Need more evidence.
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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
July 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#480
On July 07 2011 06:09 MetalLobster wrote:
I'm confused, If Casey was proven guilty of lying to investigators, wouldn't that be evidence that she was trying to cover up the death of her daughter?

Also the evidence are so stacked against Casey, I can't believe she walked away with only 4 charges of what is equivalent to a misdemeanor. I expected she be charged with murder, if not then negligent manslaughter.



Correct on the first point. Show was covering up the death. But that still doesn't mean she murdered her with regard to that particular bit of evidence.
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