The Falklands or las Malvinas? - Page 7

On June 17 2011 15:29 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
the island was under Spanish jurisdiction and according to this little small thing called "right of succession", I know, something the british never concerned themselves with (why would they, they were bound to be the next empire), this piece of land is inherited by that country which later claimed independence and was the closest to the island called Provincias del Río de la Plata, later to be named Argentina.

On June 17 2011 21:28 Velr wrote:
Clearly these Islands should go to a Neutral country to stop all this back and fourth fighting.

I herebye declare them as Swiss property! Our navy (damn ) will take em as soon as we built the Ships to do so.

On June 17 2011 11:12 KwarK wrote:

Brits were on the island long before that Argentine mission. They were on the island long before Argentina existed. When they found the island nobody lived there.

Territorial waters are 12 miles. Look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters

On June 18 2011 00:18 TossRage wrote:


read further
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters#Continental_shelf

Countries were supposed to lodge their submissions to extend their continental shelf beyond 200 nautical miles within 10 years of UNCLOS coming into force in the country, or by 13 May 2009 for countries where the convention had come into force before 13 May 1999. As of 1 June 2009, 51 submissions have been lodged with the Commission, of which 8 have been deliberated by the Commission and have had recommendations issued. The 8 are (in the order of date of submission): Russian Federation; Brazil; Australia; Ireland; New Zealand; the joint submission by France, Ireland, Spain and the United Kingdom; Norway and Mexico.

On June 17 2011 11:43 KwarK wrote:

Why stop at American territories? Why not claim Spain? Why not the whole world?
You can't just claim places. Britain defeated Argentina in the Falklands War and you don't see us claiming the Argentinian mainland. Have the decency to treat us as respectfully as we treat you.

On June 18 2011 00:29 TossRage wrote:


respect..... as in respectfully attack some country OUTSIDE the exclusion zone ?
Really easy to be respectfull that way, in a war the other side of the world, with a weak country, with nothing to lose.

On June 17 2011 15:44 Sanctimonius wrote:
That is a very detailed post with lots of historical details in it. Still doesn't do anything to deal with the situation of today - the islands are populated by people who have been there for nearly two centuries, who speak English and consider themselves British.

Any claim from Argentina has to take them into account, they can't just be ignored. As others have said if the situation changes and the islands vote to join Argentina, then fair enough. But they have chosen time and again to remain British.

On June 17 2011 20:38 Deleuze wrote:
Oh dear there are some proper crimes against Philosophy going on here!

OT: I had a very similar topic of discussion with an Argentinian friend. She explained to me that all her friends and family told her never to tell anyone she was Argentinian while she was in the UK because of the Falklands/las Malvinas. Having known her for nearly a year I had completely forgotten that our two countries were once at war!

I kind of felt that the Falklands/las Malvinas were in a very distant part of the national consciousness (whatever that may be...) and simply didn't matter to us. I felt that people in the UK probably don't really think/talk about them unless the Argentinian President brings it up or England play Argentinia (and then they're more likely to bring up Maradona I'm sure). Whereas in Argentinia I'm sure are a regular topic of discussion.

It was saddening to realise that a conflict where so many people lost their lives or were injured was so distant both conceptually and geographically.

But I agree was vierws expressed earlier in this thread, that this is clearly saber rattling and galvanising support through nationalistic sentiments in lieu of the forthcoming election. From what I hear Argentina isn't the greatest place to live - apparently they have run out or coins at the moment as there poor economy doesn't permit them to make any more.

On June 18 2011 00:53 Svetz wrote:
@Tossrage
Did you create a new account just to get owned by Kwark in one of the most humerous cases of reading the article your quoting so far today!

Also your second comment doesn't even make any sense? Argentina invaded the falklands not the other way around...