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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
On June 03 2011 22:45 RaFeStaR wrote: It's on richman as much as it is the team. He is obviously way more known than FCG and could have easily just said no to avoid this. "with great power comes great responsibility" -Uncle Ben | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On June 03 2011 16:18 Wolf wrote: Exposing things like this is bold, and needs to happen in order for ESPORTS to grow in a proper manner. Sorry Namhcir, you've been caught. Thought you were better than this. Meh, he may not have known what he was doing. Maybe he thought he was just smurfing some random (leader said we cant lose to some randoms so why not smurf them in Namchir's mind) Bad look regardless, but smurfing happens all the time. Sometimes people laugh and love it (look at Testie's stream where all he does is smash noobs in HoN all day and pretty much maintains 1k viewers), rarely people get really mad about it and post on the forums. Suddenly smurfing like this is hated and omg no one should do it. Somewhat of a double standard, yeah? Then again, smurfing vs random pubs is not the same as smurfing in a clan war, we all know that. What I'm saying is maybe he was just in it for the fun of smashing some random noob, we don't know. As for the people mad at the OP, I don't get it. At least the OP took the time to do his homework and make a case. These aren't accusations backed by little evidence. | ||
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Kamedience
United States34 Posts
On June 03 2011 22:45 RaFeStaR wrote: It's on richman as much as it is the team. He is obviously way more known than FCG and could have easily just said no to avoid this. Of course it is on Richman to say no. I just see this thread going in a direction where he gets more flack/hate than is deserved. "ur done richman" Give me a break. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:03 Risen wrote: Meh, he may not have known what he was doing. Maybe he thought he was just smurfing some random (leader said we cant lose to some randoms so why not smurf them in Namchir's mind) Bad look regardless, but smurfing happens all the time. Sometimes people laugh and love it (look at Testie's stream where all he does is smash noobs in HoN all day and pretty much maintains 1k viewers), rarely people get really mad about it and post on the forums. Suddenly smurfing like this is hated and omg no one should do it. Somewhat of a double standard, yeah? Then again, smurfing vs random pubs is not the same as smurfing in a clan war, we all know that. What I'm saying is maybe he was just in it for the fun of smashing some random noob, we don't know. As for the people mad at the OP, I don't get it. At least the OP took the time to do his homework and make a case. These aren't accusations backed by little evidence. we are talking about a Clan BORROWING a member of a RESPECTABLE team in NA sever to play their CW for them and you call it not serious? Its like high school soccer borrowing Rolando to play for them in a local cup. And the worst part is: THEY LIE ABOUT IT! Both the player and the team who borrow the player should reflect this on themself and ONEgaming should make an official statement on this situation. Like wolf said, we cant treat this situation lightly in order for #ESPORT to grow. CombatEX has been banned for life in CSL just because of his bm, somebody better make a move on this :-/ | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:06 Kamedience wrote: Of course it is on Richman to say no. I just see this thread going in a direction where he gets more flack/hate than is deserved. "ur done richman" Give me a break. He should get the majority of the flack. He is on a pretty good team and he's relatively known. I've never even heard of FCG before this thread, so yeah, he deserves as much as he's getting. As far as being "done" I agree with you. People have done far worse and are still around, but as far as this particular topic goes, he is getting the criticism he deserves. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
If you are under contract with a sponsored team there should be a term against something like this. | ||
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SaetZero
United States855 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:11 NB wrote: we are talking about a Clan BORROWING a member of a RESPECTABLE team in NA sever to play their CW for them and you call it not serious? Its like high school soccer borrowing Rolando to play for them in a local cup. And the worst part is: THEY LIE ABOUT IT! Both the player and the team who borrow the player should reflect this on themself and ONEgaming should make an official statement on this situation. Like wolf said, we cant treat this situation lightly in order for #ESPORT to grow. CombatEX has been banned for life in CSL just because of his bm, somebody better make a move on this :-/ And I'm saying we don't know the whole story SO LET'S TALK IN CAPS. We don't know his motivation, we don't even know if he knew it was a clan war. How do you know? Were you there? It doesn't sound like the OP was ever a part of any conversation that included him. All we can prove is that he smurfed against some random. Oh my, how damning! | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:16 StarStruck wrote: Is that the best example you can come up with? Nick smashing newbs on HoN during and a player competing for two different teams in a clan league (mind you ONE isn't competing in it) are two different beasts. ._. If you are under contract with a sponsored team there should be a term against something like this. My whole point with that was to say, "Oh maybe he didn't know it was for a clan war, maybe he thought it was vs some random shit talking" Guess what Nick does in HoN (smash noobs) Guess what Namchir might have thought he was doing (smashing noobs) We don't know that he knew it was for a clan war. In the end it might come out that he did know, and if it's proven then I'll jump on the wagon with everyone and agree that this is horrible. But until we know that all this is useless speculation. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
I'm pretty certain the manager of FCG knew exactly what he was doing. Considering this isn't the first time he called upon NamchiR and leagues commence in channels and custom games. I'm almost certain Richman knew exactly what was going on too. Regardless of the prize amount of the league, there is still a lot to be gained for doing such a petty thing. For one, winning a division let alone climbing the ranks of a league is more than enough to attract more sponsors let alone earn your team more opportunities. | ||
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RuMCaKe
United States559 Posts
First off, he admits he did it and that he was an idiot. According to Rich someone he gives lessons to, whom actually has spent over 600 bucks with Rich asked him to do it. Rich decided to play being that he was told it wasn't for any league / turny / any kind of prize as it was just a scrimmage. He screwed up and admits he was wrong. As the owner of ONE this does frustrate me quite a bit, and I can assure everyone that nothing like this will happen again. Right now, were here at MLG focused on performing well. Thanks for making me aware of the situation. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
((Now to watch the LastShadow thread)) | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:31 Risen wrote: Boom. Guess that's what I get for granting benefit of the doubt :/ ((Now to watch the LastShadow thread)) Not anymore  more evidence required in that thread. This one on other hand...its pretty obvious what's going on. | ||
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Deezer
Canada73 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
was this clan war actually about anything or was it just a scrim? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On June 03 2011 23:53 Looms wrote: Not anymore more evidence required in that thread. This one on other hand...its pretty obvious what's going on.Good thing I'm the one who reported the other thread for lack of evidence. I'd more go with a  These things never help the community, even though it's better to hear about them than not. | ||
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