secondly u dont even address the screenshot. how do you explain that?
what a bad cover up rofl not to mention he admits doing it
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
secondly u dont even address the screenshot. how do you explain that? what a bad cover up rofl not to mention he admits doing it | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:50 DTank wrote: Sorry for the triple post: To finalize it all, NamchiR did not ghost for us. Autumn is simply mad that we didn't let him participate on the very first day he was recruited, and in no way did i guarantee him a spot. I told him that it depends if our entire lineup shows up or not. Namchir admitted he ghosted... edit: found the quote On June 03 2011 23:27 RuMCaKe wrote: Alright, I actually just woke Rich up to talk to him about this and see what the deal was. First off, he admits he did it and that he was an idiot. According to Rich someone he gives lessons to, whom actually has spent over 600 bucks with Rich asked him to do it. Rich decided to play being that he was told it wasn't for any league / turny / any kind of prize as it was just a scrimmage. He screwed up and admits he was wrong. As the owner of ONE this does frustrate me quite a bit, and I can assure everyone that nothing like this will happen again. Right now, were here at MLG focused on performing well. Thanks for making me aware of the situation. also the hotkeys have been used forever in finding ghosters and smurfs and there was a screenshot of you saying that Namhcir played for you | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:53 Lumi wrote: Show nested quote + On June 03 2011 16:18 Wolf wrote: Exposing things like this is bold, and needs to happen in order for ESPORTS to grow in a proper manner. Sorry Namhcir, you've been caught. Thought you were better than this. What's with the self-important condemnation / judgement? I thought you were better than that. How does it feel? Ideally, this community would be considerate enough to stop and question whether they lead perfect lives themselves, and then stfu over someone helping out a friend in a low-tier clan war. You may have been taking that event really seriously but knowing rich personally, and his skill level - I wouldn't be surprised if he was eating a sandwich and laughing on vent or something, talking about something irrelevant to SC2. If I were him, I may very well feel that that level of play is a joke. The guy is good. Everybody here sees "caught" and then acts like this is MLG instead of a no-name clan war where people may not be spurred to incorporate and act on the highest ethical considerations possible. There are bronze clan wars. And so what if this one wasn't? I'm just illustrating that something being a "clan war" isn't an automatic BFD that should make everybody stop and have a gandhi moment. So, really. If you make mistakes, or sometimes do things without having considered every possible thing and other party involved - (and you do) - then I'd suggest you stfu rather than continuing to embarass yourselves with your desperation to throw out judgement and condemnation from your completely impersonal thrones across the great wide internet. It's hypocritical to boot. Disregarding the image-projecting moral soldiers that would respond stubbornly to this; How would you be acting or thinking about this person if you actually knew him, or were even his friend? Maybe a little different. And maybe for better reasons than a mere bias of loyalty. Maybe a little different because you actually knew anything about the people you were talking about ![]() Food for thought. I <3 namhcir, personally. + Show Spoiler + there are plenty of other cheesy all in terrans to love, would it really be hard to pick another? lol | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:47 DTank wrote: Hey, One of my guys just informed me of this post. I'll start out saying that looking @ hotkeys, apm, whatnot does not say that that is namchir playing. 1. NamchiR did not play for us in that scrimmage. 2. Autumn is just a disgruntled former member who did not have the opportunity to play, because of the fact that he was picked up by our team on the day that the scrimmage was happening. We simply did not want to risk putting him in on the first day. 3. This scrimmage was for fun and not part of any league. As for the comment regarding looking @ the hotkeys: I think I speak for many people when I say that, often, players mimic pro players' hotkey settings. It is all about preference. Given the fact that you can only hotkey 1-0, there are not many variations, considering the amount of buildings that are available. NamchiR in no way was ghosting for us. DTank, Manager Explain the image that directly points out that you said "Namchir is playing now" | ||
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Tekkerz
United Kingdom216 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:47 DTank wrote: Hey, One of my guys just informed me of this post. I'll start out saying that looking @ hotkeys, apm, whatnot does not say that that is namchir playing. 1. NamchiR did not play for us in that scrimmage. 2. Autumn is just a disgruntled former member who did not have the opportunity to play, because of the fact that he was picked up by our team on the day that the scrimmage was happening. We simply did not want to risk putting him in on the first day. 3. This scrimmage was for fun and not part of any league. As for the comment regarding looking @ the hotkeys: I think I speak for many people when I say that, often, players mimic pro players' hotkey settings. It is all about preference. Given the fact that you can only hotkey 1-0, there are not many variations, considering the amount of buildings that are available. NamchiR in no way was ghosting for us. DTank, Manager Lol, the screenshot strongly suggests otherwise... Explain that one mate. And no, with 1-0 the number of possible permutations of combinations of hotkeys pressed even in a short space of time is an incredibly large number. The spam looked identical. Just my take on it, your argument seemed kinda underwhelming compared to the evidence to suggest that Namchir did play for you. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:47 DTank wrote: Hey, One of my guys just informed me of this post. I'll start out saying that looking @ hotkeys, apm, whatnot does not say that that is namchir playing. 1. NamchiR did not play for us in that scrimmage. 2. Autumn is just a disgruntled former member who did not have the opportunity to play, because of the fact that he was picked up by our team on the day that the scrimmage was happening. We simply did not want to risk putting him in on the first day. 3. This scrimmage was for fun and not part of any league. As for the comment regarding looking @ the hotkeys: I think I speak for many people when I say that, often, players mimic pro players' hotkey settings. It is all about preference. Given the fact that you can only hotkey 1-0, there are not many variations, considering the amount of buildings that are available. NamchiR in no way was ghosting for us. DTank, Manager rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever | ||
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:47 DTank wrote: Hey, One of my guys just informed me of this post. I'll start out saying that looking @ hotkeys, apm, whatnot does not say that that is namchir playing. 1. NamchiR did not play for us in that scrimmage. 2. Autumn is just a disgruntled former member who did not have the opportunity to play, because of the fact that he was picked up by our team on the day that the scrimmage was happening. We simply did not want to risk putting him in on the first day. 3. This scrimmage was for fun and not part of any league. As for the comment regarding looking @ the hotkeys: I think I speak for many people when I say that, often, players mimic pro players' hotkey settings. It is all about preference. Given the fact that you can only hotkey 1-0, there are not many variations, considering the amount of buildings that are available. NamchiR in no way was ghosting for us. DTank, Manager Should've taken the time to read the thread before you spout lies. The ONE team manager said that NamchiR himself played in that for you. Here you are saying that he didn't. If NamchiR himself said that he played, and you are saying that he did not, what are people to think? Now you're caught in a lie, it seems. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:50 DTank wrote: Sorry for the triple post: To finalize it all, NamchiR did not ghost for us. Autumn is simply mad that we didn't let him participate on the very first day he was recruited, and in no way did i guarantee him a spot. I told him that it depends if our entire lineup shows up or not. Well, this is problematic... On June 03 2011 23:27 RuMCaKe wrote: Alright, I actually just woke Rich up to talk to him about this and see what the deal was. First off, he admits he did it and that he was an idiot. According to Rich someone he gives lessons to, whom actually has spent over 600 bucks with Rich asked him to do it. Rich decided to play being that he was told it wasn't for any league / turny / any kind of prize as it was just a scrimmage. He screwed up and admits he was wrong. As the owner of ONE this does frustrate me quite a bit, and I can assure everyone that nothing like this will happen again. Right now, were here at MLG focused on performing well. Thanks for making me aware of the situation. So are Autumn and Namhcir both just out to get you? I can understand Richman's decision making, but it was still wrong. He thought it was no big deal considering it wasn't for any league and apparently there was the pride of one his students on the line. That said, he apparently admitted to it and acknowledged his mistake and while it was a pretty stupid and wrong thing to do, considering it wasn't for any kind of league I'm not to upset by it. On the other hand, the team that asked him to play... I mean really, sure your pride may be on the line in losing but it's really stupid to cheat like that and then come out and try to play cover-up. This looks pretty cut and clear at the moment. Also, I do actually think the OP handled this a little bit poorly but that's not what any of us should focus on considering there aren't exactly proper procedures for this situation(at least none that I know of). Then again, since it wasn't a league it's not like he could alert the people running the league, so overall he made a pretty adequate decision in outing those involved on TL... | ||
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DTank
10 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:02 Kraznaya wrote: rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever This was in no official league, tournie, nor had it any prize pool. My teams' credibility in events has nothing to do with a practice scrimmage. | ||
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DTank
10 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
Edit: ^ LOL U SRS BRO? | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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eXalt
United States71 Posts
It's better to apologize and come off as addressing the issue rather than dodging and making excuses. (And that touch of arrogance doesn't help either.) | ||
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ArminvB
Netherlands50 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:07 DTank wrote: And at first I did not want to disclose that namchir played for us, because I did not want to risk him getting in trouble. Someone who has respect for friends should be able to understand that. I did not know he admitted to it prior. You're such a good friend to have! | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:06 DTank wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 05:02 Kraznaya wrote: rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever This was in no official league, tournie, nor had it any prize pool. My teams' credibility in events has nothing to do with a practice scrimmage. You just proved you're a liar, and that your word is worthless because you'll cover up any questionable behavior by your clan. The fact that the scrimmage was not in an official capacity is immaterial. If your clan maphacked and you lied to cover it up, would that make the maphacking or the lying any worse if it wasn't in an "official" tournament? | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:06 DTank wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 05:02 Kraznaya wrote: rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever This was in no official league, tournie, nor had it any prize pool. My teams' credibility in events has nothing to do with a practice scrimmage. your team's credibility has to do with you lying trying to cover it up after loads of evidence have been against your lies. you are untrustworthy and dont play by the rules bro | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
You cheat, you lie and then you say you didn't want to get your friend in trouble. This is like some middle school level bogus... And yes, you did really hurt the credibility of your clan and yourself and it being a practice scrimmage just makes it all the more stupid, you did this all over a practice scrimmage... | ||
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DTank
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ArminvB
Netherlands50 Posts
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:11 DTank wrote: Yes NamchiR did play for us, but once again, i'll leave it at the fact that this was a practice scrimmage, not part of any tournament, league, and had no prize pool involved. and? You tried to lie to the community. If it wasnt so "serious" then you wouldnt have even lied in the first place. | ||
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