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There are a couple things you folks here should know.
1: This was a decision made by the manager (Dtank) to put Namchir in during a casual clanwar. The rest of us (all the members of the FCG team including myself) had zero input in this decision and I actually was openly against it from the beginning (as were others on the team). Infact I argued with Dtank not to do this.
2: Dragging the entire team FCG through the mud (or attempting to) is essentially punishing a full group of players for the misdeeds of 1 person (their manager)
3: There is alot of discontent within FCG for having Dtank as our manager. Myself and others want a change of management. Dtank has not been working out as manager.
4: In conclusion, yes this was an underhanded thing that happened but please don't assume this reflects the integrity of team FCG as a whole, its members, and its attitude towards the competitive scene.
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rofl this is hilarious, rarely are people caught this red handed. DTank, your posts here damaged your own and your team's reputation far more than what the OP did. and richman won't really be affected - while it's a slightly amoral action on his hand, it's also very understandable that he'd make this small favour in what was a seemingly unimportant practice match to maintain good relations with a customer who has paid him $600.
but your posts are just riddled with lies and inconsistencies and it's gonna be biting you in the ass for a good while - hopefully you're pretty young and capable of learning from this whole experience.. as a future "tip"; don't argue that you cheated because it wasn't important. it's a logical fallacy of the worst kind; you cheated because it was important. (at the very least, it was important to you)
what you need to do now, is just live with the fact that your team has been damaged, possibly resign from leadership, and wait some months. apologizing doesn't really work now, because your word has already lost credibility.
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So Dtank what your saying is its ok to map hack as long as its just a scrimage? Cheating is cheating, and most of the time cheaters will always try to cheat. Doesn't matter what kind you do from my experience. I still don't like many players because they cheated to get good and then went legit you are no different. Richman was told it was a scrimage game, if it was anything different then he would be in the wrong as well. I say hire a new manager and dont destroy the players in the team.
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lol dtank, your just making it worse
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This is almost as good as the thread where the guy posted replays and asked if it was a progamer, but it was himself on LT.
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On June 04 2011 05:06 DTank wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 05:02 Kraznaya wrote:
rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever
This was in no official league, tournie, nor had it any prize pool. My teams' credibility in events has nothing to do with a practice scrimmage.
Sort of just lied after your player in question admitted to it 
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On June 04 2011 05:06 DTank wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 05:02 Kraznaya wrote:
rofl, way to nuke the credibility of your clan forever
This was in no official league, tournie, nor had it any prize pool. My teams' credibility in events has nothing to do with a practice scrimmage.
Did you not read this whole thread? Because what you did in that scrimmage already has had an affect on your teams credibility and especially yours.
First you say NamhciR didnt play, then you admit he did. Man, not only are you a terrible manager it seems, but you are also a horrible liar.
Playing someone not from your team over a team member (even if he was only recruited that day) is some disrespect to your own team. Shows how much confidence you have in your players.
So in summary, you care more about wins in scrimmage matches than giving your team members a chance to play and improve, you are willing to lie despite stated facts, you also deface the people who talk out against like the op. Even if it was only a scrimmage, and even if it wasnt "cheating", with your behavior to the whole situation, I can't but label you a joke.
Your team deserves better.
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I came here to read some NamhciR bashing, but dTank is much more hilarious. Thanks for the good laugh dTank, you're the best.
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1) autumn for president - gj exploiting the cheating clan FCG and richman
2) dtank to Guantanamo Bay for lying and covering up something that was already exposed
3) solid posts azide, i dig your style
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On June 04 2011 07:29 Caliber wrote:
1) autumn for president - gj exploiting the cheating clan FCG and richman
2) dtank to Guantanamo Bay for lying and covering up something that was already exposed
3) solid posts azide, i dig your style
thanks caliber u too <3
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In response to this issue our team FCG has removed DTank as our manager and as member of our team. I'm not going to pretend that our team is big shit and that we actually matter in the starcraft scene as we are a very unknown team. But this kind of crap that DTank pulled isn't excusable when not only did he get caught red handed in cheating in a friendly clan war, but came on here and denied it after the manger of All4One gaming said Richman admitted he played for us and there was a god damn screen shot showing that he actually did it.
So I would like to apologize for DTank's actions and assure everyone that people that are on our team are very upstanding decent players that don't pull stupid shit like this. But at this point the damage is done and I hope you guys don't think poorly of our players as they really don't deserve it and a few of us told DTank not to let Richman play for us in this clan war that doesn't matter outside of a friendly scrimmage.
DTank has been on the edge for awhile now on our team and we thought you know, he could maybe stop screwing up and do things he promised. But at this point it's pretty apparent that it's not going to happen so we are going to have to let him go.
Anyways, sorry for the trouble folks, I hope you guys don't hold this against our other players. The matter has been dealt with internally and you won't be hearing about dumb crap like this shitting up the TL boards again.
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Snitches get Stitches SON 
No but seriously this is a joke any manager who puts their teams reputation on the line by doing sketchy stuff deserves to be laughed at and disparaged by the community. But, I think the onus is on the whole team to take action and make a statement not some guy acting out over his own anger. Just makes sense to talk to the guys you decided to make your teammates before making a decision that is no doubt going to effect them unfavorably.
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There are a couple things you folks here should know.
1: This was a decision made by the manager (Dtank) to put Namchir in during a casual clanwar. The rest of us (all the members of the FCG team including myself) had zero input in this decision and I actually was openly against it from the beginning (as were others on the team). Infact I argued with Dtank not to do this.
2: Dragging the entire team FCG through the mud (or attempting to) is essentially punishing a full group of players for the misdeeds of 1 person (their manager)
3: There is alot of discontent within FCG for having Dtank as our manager. Myself and others want a change of management. Dtank has not been working out as manager.
4: In conclusion, yes this was an underhanded thing that happened but please don't assume this reflects the integrity of team FCG as a whole, its members, and its attitude towards the competitive scene
I'm sorry to say that your manager's actions have seriously damaged your team's reputation. That being said, leaving and starting a new clan or just having a change in management will both bring your team back out of this crapfest.
Edit: hmm, called it
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On June 04 2011 08:19 FCGpanzer wrote:
In response to this issue our team FCG has removed DTank as our manager and as member of our team. I'm not going to pretend that our team is big shit and that we actually matter in the starcraft scene as we are a very unknown team. But this kind of crap that DTank pulled isn't excusable when not only did he get caught red handed in cheating in a friendly clan war, but came on here and denied it after the manger of All4One gaming said Richman admitted he played for us and there was a god damn screen shot showing that he actually did it.
So I would like to apologize for DTank's actions and assure everyone that people that are on our team are very upstanding decent players that don't pull stupid shit like this. But at this point the damage is done and I hope you guys don't think poorly of our players as they really don't deserve it and a few of us told DTank not to let Richman play for us in this clan war that doesn't matter outside of a friendly scrimmage.
DTank has been on the edge for awhile now on our team and we thought you know, he could maybe stop screwing up and do things he promised. But at this point it's pretty apparent that it's not going to happen so we are going to have to let him go.
Anyways, sorry for the trouble folks, I hope you guys don't hold this against our other players. The matter has been dealt with internally and you won't be hearing about dumb crap like this shitting up the TL boards again.
Thank you for the mature and appropriate response. I realize that the rest of your team had no control over it and will not hold it against them.
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As a team we decided to remove Dtank from management and the team altogether. The team does not need someone who creates a bad reputation. We are looking to create a fun and friendly community to practice at masters level.
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Although I was pissed should say BECAUSE i am pissed 
but yeah its good stuff like this comes out
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ROFL this just made my day.
really brings new meaning to the phrase "read the whole thread before you post" ^_^
at least it was handled properly by all parties involved.
i get the feeling that namchir didn't realize the gravity of someone of his status smurfing for another team, given that he was told that it was some random scrimmage he was playing in on behalf of a regular student. easily forgivable offense, especially in comparison to the stupidity that is dtank.
this totally belongs in the next issue of pony tales
you're really good at lying, a very useful talent toi have
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I'm glad this went from people bitching about energie letting us know, to a scum manager getting fired.
Shame on Dtank, and shame on people giving energie shit.
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On June 03 2011 15:34 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 15:32 Maelstrom.cobhc wrote:On June 03 2011 15:28 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 03 2011 15:24 Energie wrote:
Regardless of whether or not I pissed, he still double tagged and I'm simply getting this out so that:
1) People will become more observant of cheating, especially in these respective teams.
2) Sponsors will become more aware of the type of teams they sponsor.
3) Action will be taken against cheaters.
I'm not sure what league this was for, but regardless there shouldn't be any cheating period. I joined this team because I thought it was respectable, but after lying to me, wasting my time, and cheating, I gladly took action. At the same time you also scrapped your entire sc2 career. You worked really hard to get to a level where teams will pick you up. All that work is gone now. I don't think any respectable team would mind him exposing cheaters. Most teams don't want overly reactionary people on their team that they can't trust for legitimate and/or illegitimate things. The guy didn't get to play, so he goes all over the forums.
and the whole wikileaks thing would have been much better if they gave the info to the apropriate authorities? ..
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On June 04 2011 08:35 Tusk wrote:
I'm glad this went from people bitching about energie letting us know, to a scum manager getting fired.
Shame on Dtank, and shame on people giving energie shit.
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