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On June 29 2011 20:46 insaneMicro wrote:
In general, my experience has been that people who say "I don't even want a girlfriend/sex/a realtionship" are lying to themselves. They have experienced failure and given up to protect themselves from rejection.
I am not saying this applies to you man, just advising to take a deep look into your life and what you want out of it. Failing is part of it, when I started to turn my life around I was shot down often and brutally by girls. But I sucked up, put my head down and am now a much happier person.
(clarifying, I'm not the same poster as the guy who said he doesn't like relationships)
Your observation is probably true on average. I dunno anything about the poster who said that, but as a random side point I think our culture puts way too much value and pressure on the status of being in a relationship (any, as opposed to one that is right for you) and specifically on men to just bed as many women as possible. I mean if that's somebody's thing then go for it and be smart/have fun. But I've seen this other side of it personally; my sister places so much of her self-esteem into having a boyfriend that she stays in situations and relationships that are unhealthy, stays with guys who are no good for her, etc.
It's only when you're completely comfortable with yourself and not dependent on having a partner that you can really make your relationships a choice. The overwhelming majority of people who are comfortable with themselves still choose to find a partner, or at least a source of physical intimacy. But I know a few (mostly older people who have been in many relationships already) who are actually just happier being single.
On topic, I support anyone who is looking to understand more about how humans work, individual and group psychology, even if it's not some super-rigorous academic standard. Most of the things these PUA/seduction community posters are emphasizing - confidence, sense of self-worth/value (along with achieving real self-improvement to base that upon), learning to appreciate the value of others - are positive goals in and of themselves, and can only help a person become better at relationships or life in general. Maybe the branding itself is a bit over the top, but what isn't these days?
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Lotta this pua stuff always felt like a 3am infomercial to me.
Everybody has dating slumps. Many dudes entire teenage or tween years are a dating slump. When you want something you have to be assertive and just go for it. Rarely do things in life come free or without effort. Take risks, it builds character and confidence.
Not all, but some of the pua stuff feels like it's there merely to take advantage of the dudes who are in a slump.
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The thing that bothers me with this community is that female people have been reduced to women and not actual persons.
There is no defining word of women since there is no attribute that caracterizes these people (exept perhaps genitals). Atractiveness is also stupid because we people have been told from society what IS sexy and what is not.
The ONLY good thing that this community brings is shallow confidence which IS inportant when meeting people for the first time. What these advices do though is creating selfcentered, shallow duchebags that contribute to society as much as a pair of old socks with holes in them.
Let me put this delicately, a woman is NOT a dog which you learn to tame and do all your biddíngs, she is a unique, delicate creature which should be treated the same as your best buddy. Attraction is a shallow, inferior feeling of love and should be treated as a feeling which makes you human and not as the feeling which controls your daily actions. 
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I think the problem with this subculture is that all the pickup routines makes someone put on a fake personality that really is not them and could make the interaction even more awkward. So many introverted guys google openers like "What do you prefer: gangsta or thug loving?" or they'll google negs to devalue a hottie 10. They say these things and the girl gets weirder out or get their feelings hurt and now you're just a bag of douche with only his fleshlight. I know from experience.
Essentially what it comes down to is the courage to walk up and say hi to a girl. That's probably one of the hardest hurdles to jump and a simple introduction is fine. No gangsta luvin here. The other essential part is kino or touching. Without it you will end up in friend zone no question. Those are probably the only two good things I would take from the pua community.
Just be yourself. You may have think you have become Neo where you can see through the social matrix but in reality you just brainwashed yourself with another illusion. Most "pickup gurus" are basically scam artists with their workshops and seminars. It's funny because there's actually an anti-pua community where they expose these so called gurus as sociopaths.
If I had to choose one guru though it would be David X. That guy is a fucking mans man and it's too bad google video is gone because there were a ton of videos of him. There could be some on YouTube so I'd check him out.
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My brother bought me "The Game" one birthday. I was a bit irritated he did that, but then I read through the book and took everything I read with a grain of salt. Then I started using the techniques that were included in that book, almost as a joke/experiment, and to my surprise, half the stuff worked.
As much flak as this community draws for being sexist, ect., they do find ways to read into the psychology of attracting women.
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On June 30 2011 04:39 KangaRuthless wrote:
My brother bought me "The Game" one birthday. I was a bit irritated he did that, but then I read through the book and took everything I read with a grain of salt. Then I started using the techniques that were included in that book, almost as a joke/experiment, and to my surprise, half the stuff worked.
As much flak as this community draws for being sexist, ect., they do find ways to read into the psychology of attracting women.
This is actually a good book to read. I would say this book is to the pua community as Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is to the American Dream and counterculture. Neil Strauss and Mystery had the skills to get any women they desired and yet both these guys and their group were always miserable. Mystery even considered suicide when a girl he loved did not reciprocate. Just shows that there is no magic pill to get any girl with socalled techniques and gimmicks.
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On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:
The thing that bothers me with this community is that female people have been reduced to women and not actual persons.
How so? People like to toss this around, without actually providing any examples for it. To the contrary, it's emphasized that every girl is different and that you must learn about them, connect with them, and tailor your approach/game to what actually turns them on.
On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:
There is no defining word of women since there is no attribute that caracterizes these people (exept perhaps genitals).
This is false. However you assign the blame to biology or socialization, there remains the fact that there are general observable trends that hold true for a majority of women. It is absolutely non-controversial that there are some things that most (but not all) women find attractive, just as there are things that most men find attractive, or things that most humans find attractive. You're very naieve, and ignorant of social science, to think otherwise.
On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:Atractiveness is also stupid because we people have been told from society what IS sexy and what is not.
Does the fact that you have been socialized to find Megan Fox (or insert other celebrity here) change the fact that you find her sexy and would enjoy having sex with her? No, so what does it matter?
It doesn't matter why you or anyone else finds someone attractive.
On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:The ONLY good thing that this community brings is shallow confidence which IS inportant when meeting people for the first time.
Confidence built from actual experience and success is not shallow confidence. The fact that I've approached with, been shot down by, and made friends/hooked up with/slept with beautiful women makes me rationally confident in my attractiveness.
On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:What these advices do though is creating selfcentered, shallow duchebags that contribute to society as much as a pair of old socks with holes in them.
Oh, really? And I suppose that dating advice for women also turns them into self-centered, shallow bitches? -_-
Because that's what the seduction community really is: a font of dating (or what passes for dating in hook-up culture these days) advice little different from the love advice sections in Cosmo, etc.
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On June 30 2011 04:20 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:I think the problem with this subculture is that all the pickup routines makes someone put on a fake personality that really is not them and could make the interaction even more awkward. So many introverted guys google openers like "What do you prefer: gangsta or thug loving?" or they'll google negs to devalue a hottie 10. They say these things and the girl gets weirder out or get their feelings hurt and now you're just a bag of douche with only his fleshlight. I know from experience.
And those guys are PUAs in the sense that someone who googled how to cannon rush is a professional Starcraft player. Lots of wannabes do stuff wrong.
On June 30 2011 04:20 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:Essentially what it comes down to is the courage to walk up and say hi to a girl. That's probably one of the hardest hurdles to jump and a simple introduction is fine. No gangsta luvin here.
The courage to say hi is a good start, but only gets you so far in some cases. Note that PUAs agree with you that no weird routines are necessary, as the PUAs consider the universal opener to be a simple "Hi!"
On June 30 2011 04:20 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:Just be yourself.
Obviously people have been themselves (most of) their whole lives, and it hasn't worked out for them, or else they would not seek help from the seduction community.
It also equates to telling people that they're doing nothing wrong, which is factually untrue in most cases. You also wouldn't tell a novice Starcraft player that they're doing nothing wrong and that they should just be themselves, would you?
On June 30 2011 04:20 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:It's funny because there's actually an anti-pua community where they expose these so called gurus as sociopaths.
A disproportionate number of PUAs are sociopathic, certainly. But sociopaths are also overrepresented among corporate executives, and other groups that are successful in social interaction, because 'dark triad' personality traits are both attractive and socially effective.
On June 30 2011 04:57 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:Just shows that there is no magic pill to get any girl with socalled techniques and gimmicks.
No, but there are things that most girls find attractive, and a strong understanding of seduction theory means that you can adapt your game towards outliers.
It's similar to how you can't win every game using specific build-orders, but if you have an understanding of how and why build-orders work, you can tailor your game to adapt to any situatino.
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On June 30 2011 06:42 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:
The thing that bothers me with this community is that female people have been reduced to women and not actual persons. How so? People like to toss this around, without actually providing any examples for it. To the contrary, it's emphasized that every girl is different and that you must learn about them, connect with them, and tailor your approach/game to what actually turns them on. Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:
There is no defining word of women since there is no attribute that caracterizes these people (exept perhaps genitals). This is false. However you assign the blame to biology or socialization, there remains the fact that there are general observable trends that hold true for a majority of women. It is absolutely non-controversial that there are some things that most (but not all) women find attractive, just as there are things that most men find attractive, or things that most humans find attractive. You're very naieve, and ignorant of social science, to think otherwise. Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:Atractiveness is also stupid because we people have been told from society what IS sexy and what is not. Does the fact that you have been socialized to find Megan Fox (or insert other celebrity here) change the fact that you find her sexy and would enjoy having sex with her? No, so what does it matter? It doesn't matter why you or anyone else finds someone attractive. Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:The ONLY good thing that this community brings is shallow confidence which IS inportant when meeting people for the first time. Confidence built from actual experience and success is not shallow confidence. The fact that I've approached with, been shot down by, and made friends/hooked up with/slept with beautiful women makes me rationally confident in my attractiveness. Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:What these advices do though is creating selfcentered, shallow duchebags that contribute to society as much as a pair of old socks with holes in them. Oh, really? And I suppose that dating advice for women also turns them into self-centered, shallow bitches? -_- Because that's what the seduction community really is: a font of dating (or what passes for dating in hook-up culture these days) advice little different from the love advice sections in Cosmo, etc.
Now wait a second. Ok, first you say that ACTUALLY the community says that every girl is different and should be approach in different ways. Yes, you you say that every woman is different, but in what way? Is it: perhaps i can not make these asumptions about women since i can not define them. or is it: well bitches are the same, you just have to "approach them differently" and after you have tamed them they are like a kitty.
Second, what are these traits that you speak of? Yes i've seen alot of tall, muscular, nice eyes that girls like in people, even funny, nice guys. But these traits are not even close to be the demanding trait of a man for a girl. Also, in what way are these traits even remotely important for deep interests in people. These are just shallow traits that prevent people from really interact on an adult level. Adult being a level where you do not have any prejudices about the person.
Third, yes attractiveness is nice and all, but do you think in the bigger picture much? Yes, megan fox is nice and all but is your boner there because life would be better if you had sex with megan or is it because it would be awesome to brag to your friends that you had sex with megan? If you think about it sex is like eating is for starving, yes it's awesome and all but isnt the feeling of being full a better feeling (think of love).
Fourth, ok u had sex/shot down/got number from beautiful women. In what way did this give you confidence? Did it: oh I am now a better person where people can recognise that i have accepted myself as a unique creature and can give compasion to others. Or did it: damn, i sexed up that girl. Now people can see how good i am at picking up chicks that they will accept me.
Fifth, does saying that "well they are doing it to us" accept you to becoming selfcentered duches. Cosmo is the most sexist journal a woman can read if she wants to become gender-neutral, and so is the PUA community.
Conclusion, if you want to have sex with people have sex with yourself since less people are involved. Attraction is great and all but what good does it give you in the long run, love atleast gives you a warm feeling of connection (not obsession). Also, dont blame the need to prove yourself when dating on a "well they do it too" card, being shallow does not make you a better person or make you feel like a better person, shallowness makes you stupid.
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On June 30 2011 08:29 Jokithedruid wrote:what are these traits that you speak of? Yes i've seen alot of tall, muscular, nice eyes that girls like in people, even funny, nice guys.
The vast majority of heterosexual women are attracted to charismatic, socially-skilled, dominant men of higher social status. These qualities are more important than money or looks, though both contribute to the former traits. Additionally, the vast majority of women are attracted to men who are confident, strong, secure, laid-back, decisive, non-needy, not desperate, and don't supplicate.
On June 30 2011 08:29 Jokithedruid wrote:Third, yes attractiveness is nice and all, but do you think in the bigger picture much? Yes, megan fox is nice and all but is your boner there because life would be better if you had sex with megan or is it because it would be awesome to brag to your friends that you had sex with megan? If you think about it sex is like eating is for starving, yes it's awesome and all but isnt the feeling of being full a better feeling (think of love).
Seriously? Are you trolling? For someone who talks about how people are individuals, you sure as hell have no problem with extrapolating your personal preferences onto everyone else. Some of us find sex (particularly with attractive women) to be a very fun activity on its own (even if love can enhance it), not because we like to brag about it. Not to mention that people starving for sex can hardly be expected to make the right decisions about love (see Evangelical Christians who get married really early to have sex, and their sky-high divorce rates).
I understand that you don't care about sex or attractiveness, but you can't reasonably expect that other men and women are supposed to think like you. Get off your self-righteous high horse and look around.
On June 30 2011 08:29 Jokithedruid wrote:
Fourth, ok u had sex/shot down/got number from beautiful women. In what way did this give you confidence? Did it: oh I am now a better person where people can recognise that i have accepted myself as a unique creature and can give compasion to others. Or did it: damn, i sexed up that girl. Now people can see how good i am at picking up chicks that they will accept me.
When you play lots of games of Starcraft, it makes you more confident at it. It's the confidence that comes with learning and improving with experience (both winning and losing). Competence leads to confidence.
My thoughts would be something like: "Oh look, that model over there seems interesting, I should introduce myself. If I were most guys, I'd be pretty nervous right now; good thing I've done this tons of times! Hope she's got some brains and a fun attitude to back up that smokin' body. After all, pretty girls are a dime a dozen, but let's see if she's one of the few who can actually hold an intellectual conversation. If she's cool enough, maybe I'll let her hang out with me."
On June 30 2011 08:29 Jokithedruid wrote:Fifth, does saying that "well they are doing it to us" accept you to becoming selfcentered duches. Cosmo is the most sexist journal a woman can read if she wants to become gender-neutral, and so is the PUA community.
You missed the point, which was that dating advice in and of itself is absolutely typical. Not everyone wants to be a gender-neutral Swedish hippie like you.
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Thank you BackHo. I had never heard of this community. I was thinking of getting myself a prostitute for my birthday, now maybe i won't have to.
I'd advice you to update your thread title. It took me a month to open it, PUA just didn't seem worthy of interest. Even including pick-up artist would have made me click it much faster.
edit: good 900th post. <3 TL.
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On June 29 2011 23:57 Jokithedruid wrote:
The thing that bothers me with this community is that female people have been reduced to women and not actual persons.
Completely irrelevant comment based on arguing definitions. Women are people, no one in the pick up community believes that to be untrue. In fact, it's a major tenant of many teachings. Treat them like you would a friend talk to them like you would a close friend
There is no defining word of women since there is no attribute that caracterizes these people (exept perhaps genitals). Atractiveness is also stupid because we people have been told from society what IS sexy and what is not.
You are inexperienced if you think this to be true. Get out there and experience more people and more life and you will realize this. Attraction and attractiveness are somewhat societally dictated but also largely a primal and guttural reaction to our interactions with people. You are dismissing attraction as something that is... false almost? I don't want to live in a world where I can't qualify something as being attractive or not. Sure, some of it is subjective but a lot of it is also something we just can't help.
The ONLY good thing that this community brings is shallow confidence which IS inportant when meeting people for the first time. What these advices do though is creating selfcentered, shallow duchebags that contribute to society as much as a pair of old socks with holes in them.
So, what you are saying is that the only thing the community brings is shallow confidence and that somehow breeds shallow douchebags that don't contribute to society? You don't present any clear line of thought here. Your entire paragraph seems based on pre-conceived and ill-informed notions of the PUA community. I won't lie, I practice game and would consider myself a low level PUA so our views are different at best but I would like to hear your reasoning that since PUA breeds confidence (sure it starts off shallow but as you internalize it and realize the value you have to give it becomes part of who you are and true) it breeds useless douchebags.
PUAs are some of the most successful people in business, the sciences and politics that you will ever meet. Ever met someone who was fun to be around, made you like them and was charming? That's a REAL pick up artist. They aren't out to just lure women into bed. They are out to have a good time and bring value to those who they surround themselves with and are entirely results-independent. [/QUOTE]
Let me put this delicately, a woman is NOT a dog which you learn to tame and do all your biddíngs, she is a unique, delicate creature which should be treated the same as your best buddy. Attraction is a shallow, inferior feeling of love and should be treated as a feeling which makes you human and not as the feeling which controls your daily actions.
That was hardly putting it delicately. PUAs are not calling women dogs, in fact you have a more warped view of women than PUAs do. You probably treat your girlfriend like a queen, someone above you. That view is more warped than a true PUA. We view women as our equals. We view them as people to have open, honest, healthy relationships with and conversations with. They are not above us or below us, they should not be feared nor coveted any differently than their male counterparts. This is what it all boils down to in the end. She is not unique or delicate in her basal emotional and physiological attractions, she is someone who needs to prove her worth to me as much as I do to her. Your view that she should be treated the same as your best buddy is correct but completely counter what you say in the same sentence. How can you say that attraction is shallow? Our sexuality is a huge part of what makes us who we are and what makes us... HUMAN like you said. You marginalize that like it's normal and right. You have the right to an opinion but you also have the right to be wrong and I believe you are here. Attraction is an essential part of any relationship, it's what separates you treating your gf like she is your lover from treating her like your best friend. There is a difference and it is vast.
Save this reply in your browser somewhere. Set a date in your phone 1 year from now and look back on this post of yours. Respond then and tell me if you still feel the same and again the next year. Once you realize how important healthy sexual appetite is to a relationship then maybe, maybe we will see eye to eye.
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On June 03 2011 05:20 PJA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 05:12 Severedevil wrote:On June 03 2011 04:50 dreamsmasher wrote:On June 03 2011 04:19 Delerium wrote:I'm sure if you tell a girl "You don't have free will, and neither do I, and I'm going to use psychology to get you to sleep with me tonight" it will have fine results
I'm just good at quickly and accurately judging the type of troll.
It's a necessary skill in life imo.
true dat, boo surprisingly enough, you could probably deliver that line and have great results. Seems pretty solid. You state your intentions clearly, and take a hard-to-ignore stance on a contentious issue. Likely to spark discussion with its intended target... which, near as I can tell, is the point of a pickup line. Yeah, could work on the right type of girl. In my experience, though, even well educated people look at you weirdly if you suggest that free will may not exist.
Lol. Wut? It is actually the most well educated people that were, and still are unsattisfied with the concept of free will..
Most great minds in human history have tackled at some point the subject of free will and none have truly solved it.. Be it by religious belif, causality, or the advances made in science (phisics, byology, etc), the concept of free will is invalidated all around the board.
I do agree with you on most of the PUA statements that you made, though..
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On July 01 2011 02:21 Nizaris wrote:
Thank you BackHo. I had never heard of this community. I was thinking of getting myself a prostitute for my birthday, now maybe i won't have to.
I'd advice you to update your thread title. It took me a month to open it, PUA just didn't seem worthy of interest. Even including pick-up artist would have made me click it much faster.
edit: good 900th post. <3 TL.
Aw man, a prostitute? How old are you to make such desperate move? No offence in any way.
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On July 01 2011 05:39 DwmC_Foefen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 02:21 Nizaris wrote:
Thank you BackHo. I had never heard of this community. I was thinking of getting myself a prostitute for my birthday, now maybe i won't have to.
I'd advice you to update your thread title. It took me a month to open it, PUA just didn't seem worthy of interest. Even including pick-up artist would have made me click it much faster.
edit: good 900th post. <3 TL. Aw man, a prostitute? How old are you to make such desperate move? No offence in any way.
29 last week :/ being almost 30 is scary when you've spent the last 10y playing video games.
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Nizaris in my opinion, just hire a prostitute. There really is no shame in that. It may not be the greatest investment but if you want something short term: buy an escort. Most pua techniques and theories are mental masturbation. You'll read positive affirmations and have your sure fire techniques and think to yourself: "Damn I can sleep with any girl." but once you get out into the field, you'll go back to your old shy self. Many aspiring pua go through this, including myself.
If you however really want to change into someone who could talk to any girl, you must work on your self esteem and cofidence. That is your BASE. How do you achieve this? You must learn to accept yourself completely--the positives and the negatives. Sun prince also mentions competence and preserverance, which is another key to getting confidence. In starcraft2, maybe you had ladder phobia but once you forced yourself to keep playing, you became calmer and the next game calmer before that until everything was just automatic. It applies to really any activity you try for the first time. So do a new thing every week or month. Go to a gym if you don't workout, take a cooking class if you never cooked. These things build your base and act also as a conversation topic if housing know what things to talk about.
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I think people are getting confused about the term "just be yourself". What I mean by being yourself is just be proud of who you are. Don't be someone you're not. It's not congruent for an introvert to be the life of the party. It's not congruent for the vice versa either. My problem with pua routines is that is what they are: routines. They're made by someone else's perspective, not yours. So an introvert trying to do a canned routine fails and the girl who started to take an interest in you now thinks you are a weirdo and knows it's incongruent with his personality.
What I mean by being yourself is have confidence in yourself and your flaws. If you like to play games all day, dont lie to her and say you climb cliffsides all day just for the sake of increasing your value to her, for example. The common misconception is all girls like the LOUD, LOOK AT ME ATTENTION WHORE frat boy douchebags. If you're introverted and don't like small talk, that's fine. You can be honest and tell her that. She will be more impressed with your honesty than telling her you did a dual kegstand with Bill Murray a San Diego State frat party. Talk about all the nerdy and unusual that you do. Be proud of it.
Look at day9 or destiny. One is as nerdy as they come and the other can be knocked down by a 1 mph gust of wind. But they're both confident and accept their traits by what society considers as non desirable by women.
Now some people are saying "oh you can be yourself but that means to be alone for te rest of your life." Yea maybe that could be true. But you dont flip your whole personality over just to get some poon. What a person should do is simply add and acquire the COURAGE to talk to a girl. How does an introvert do this? I mentioned it in my previous post but basically try a new thing everyday. It definitely takes a bit of effort. And ok maybe you'll procrastinate and rather just play games. THATS PERFECTLY FINE. Play video games all you want. Maybe you'll hit rock bottom, get tired with the way your life is going and finally get the balls to talk to that cute bag girl at the grocery store.
TL DR: Obviously don't be happy and accept if you don't like how your life is going but don't change your personality either. Accept who you are in terms of all your positive and negative traits because essentially nobody is perfect. And if you are content with being alone then that's cool too.
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On July 01 2011 07:53 muaAHhaha charmander wrote:
I think people are getting confused about the term "just be yourself". What I mean by being yourself is just be proud of who you are. Don't be someone you're not. It's not congruent for an introvert to be the life of the party. It's not congruent for the vice versa either. My problem with pua routines is that is what they are: routines. They're made by someone else's perspective, not yours. So an introvert trying to do a canned routine fails and the girl who started to take an interest in you now thinks you are a weirdo and knows it's incongruent with his personality.
What I mean by being yourself is have confidence in yourself and your flaws. If you like to play games all day, dont lie to her and say you climb cliffsides all day just for the sake of increasing your value to her, for example. The common misconception is all girls like the LOUD, LOOK AT ME ATTENTION WHORE frat boy douchebags. If you're introverted and don't like small talk, that's fine. You can be honest and tell her that. She will be more impressed with your honesty than telling her you did a dual kegstand with Bill Murray a San Diego State frat party. Talk about all the nerdy and unusual that you do. Be proud of it.
Look at day9 or destiny. One is as nerdy as they come and the other can be knocked down by a 1 mph gust of wind. But they're both confident and accept their traits by what society considers as non desirable by women.
Now some people are saying "oh you can be yourself but that means to be alone for te rest of your life." Yea maybe that could be true. But you dont flip your whole personality over just to get some poon. What a person should do is simply add and acquire the COURAGE to talk to a girl. How does an introvert do this? I mentioned it in my previous post but basically try a new thing everyday. It definitely takes a bit of effort. And ok maybe you'll procrastinate and rather just play games. THATS PERFECTLY FINE. Play video games all you want. Maybe you'll hit rock bottom, get tired with the way your life is going and finally get the balls to talk to that cute bag girl at the grocery store.
TL DR: Obviously don't be happy and accept if you don't like how your life is going but don't change your personality either. Accept who you are in terms of all your positive and negative traits because essentially nobody is perfect. And if you are content with being alone then that's cool too.
You should obviously change your bad traits if they exist. Its called improvement. There is no concrete definition of "SELF". You were born with a blank slate. Anything you developed has been learned in the process. The "SELF" is always changing. Learning a new hobby, going to school, learning good habits. That's changing yourself. It may not be comfortable at first but once its congruent with you, that's your new self.
Why should you be proud of your flaws? So, if you have bad posture, be proud of it? If you are boring, be proud of it? Nah, that's the lazy mentality. Take an improv class. Take a yoga class.
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On July 01 2011 02:50 HnR)Pride wrote:
PUAs are some of the most successful people in business, the sciences and politics that you will ever meet. Ever met someone who was fun to be around, made you like them and was charming? That's a REAL pick up artist. They aren't out to just lure women into bed. They are out to have a good time and bring value to those who they surround themselves with and are entirely results-independent.
While some PUAs have got the other areas of their live handled, a lot of guys in the industry, including a lot of my wingman fail to take care of other areas in their lives like education, career, manhood, etc. Look at Gunwitch. He looks like he still live with his mom and he shot some girl in the face.
A know a lot of wings who still live with their parents, and they literally sarge 6 nights a week and pull girls every week. Yes PUA can improve other areas of your live, but you still have to work at them separately. Its like a muscle. Doing squats may improve your overall muscle development, but you still have to curl to get big biceps.
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On June 11 2011 04:51 Alexhandr wrote:
I'm hardly a PUA. Do not know if you boys know this, but the easiest way to get a girl to like you? Talk to her. Be yourself. That simple. Be their friend. "But I want more than a friend!" you say? Alright, that is simple too. Be patient. Spend quality time. Love is not something that just flows from your fingertips, fellows. It is a powerful force and works on its own. If you are meant to be together, she'll come around. She'll give you signs, and you step forward and do your thing.
Take to her, Be yourself....
okay..
That's like saying to be a good basketball player, just be coordinated, and make your shots. To have an amazing career, just be educated and skilled.
You see how this is so blatantly vague that it serves absolutely no use to some socially inept guy? Whats with all these guy who never done a single cold approach giving advice?
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