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On May 26 2011 04:41 avilo wrote: sooo....a "guide" for 2 rax -> pull scvs allin? lol. I don't think a guide is necessary for something like that -_-
But if you're gonna do this, why don't you just go 11/11 rax or 11/12. You'll have prob 1-3 scvs less than normal, but you'll have more marines sooner.
but with that build.. its more predictable
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That't a lot of replays... you must get tired of playing Protoss a lot xD
Could you add a section in your Protoss opener if they open standard? Like Gate-Cyber with zealot and chrono boosted stalker? I'd rather not go through your reps to find one
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Canada13386 Posts
I just wonder why people want to make so many marine scv all ins >.<
I guess I gotta prepare for this on the ladder, looks like it will take some practice to learn to hold. The worst part is it looks like Selects 2 rax expo >.<
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Sounds interesting but it seems there are too many chances at this strategy failing. Not to plug but I think the recent post made regarding the "3 rax, cheesing your way to GM" build will have more chances at success.
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United States526 Posts
It's funny how you 'say' you use this build because you don't want to play against protoss cheese. So you cheese. Quite the guy
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On May 26 2011 05:03 EvilZergling wrote: Sounds interesting but it seems there are too many chances at this strategy failing. Not to plug but I think the recent post made regarding the "3 rax, cheesing your way to GM" build will have more chances at success.
Exept that pride actually did cheese his way to GM LOL
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Yo Pride, ever been 16 Nexus'ed by the Protoss who also 2 probe harasses? I know when I do 2 probe harass the first marine is taken down to about 20 or 25 hp. I know if I bring a 3rd probe I can kill the marine unless you pull scvs, but I have a 16 nexus routine where I skip WG and stalker and go straight for an Immortal cause it's pretty strong at the 6-7 minute mark. Thoughts?
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Tehemperor's build is probably the best response you could do. Whenever you see any marine/scv pull as protoss what you want to do is get some stalkers and snipe the marines before they get to your base. go check out geiko vs ZyJimmeh in geiko's thread to see it in action.
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On May 26 2011 05:18 tehemperorer wrote: Yo Pride, ever been 16 Nexus'ed by the Protoss who also 2 probe harasses? I know when I do 2 probe harass the first marine is taken down to about 20 or 25 hp. I know if I bring a 3rd probe I can kill the marine unless you pull scvs, but I have a 16 nexus routine where I skip WG and stalker and go straight for an Immortal cause it's pretty strong at the 6-7 minute mark. Thoughts?
i don't think 2 probe harass will work.i think it will put you behind if you harass with probes to kill marine. the success rate is actually higher if they 16 nexus
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Combatex replay chat is great
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LOL the combatex game ahahahah
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Zomg, this game has soooo many openers you have to know exactly how to stop. Damn you Pride. Damn you.
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Pathetic, getting tired of this un-skilled nonsense strategies in a skill rewarding strategy game. For any terran reading this, please go to some Synystyr-like strategy threads to get a really fun and rewarding builds.
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On May 26 2011 06:31 Belha wrote: Pathetic, getting tired of this un-skilled nonsense strategies in a skill rewarding strategy game. For any terran reading this, please go to some Synystyr-like strategy threads to get a really fun and rewarding builds.
why you spamming? This strat is legit
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IM gonna try this, I want to experience the BIT BY BITTTTTT effect.
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On May 26 2011 06:31 Belha wrote: Pathetic, getting tired of this un-skilled nonsense strategies in a skill rewarding strategy game. For any terran reading this, please go to some Synystyr-like strategy threads to get a really fun and rewarding builds. It's totally a legit build; if P wants to say 16 nexus every game, there's gotta be a way for T to punish that. There has to be several options even for the early game to put pressure or macro up otherwise the game would be stale in other ways.
Pride, your comment was kinda unclear to me, you mean 16 nexus with 2 probe harass would be less effective than just 16 nexusing?
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this is the shit brah! so good! imma use it more in bronze, let's get to master!
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On May 26 2011 07:01 tehemperorer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 06:31 Belha wrote: Pathetic, getting tired of this un-skilled nonsense strategies in a skill rewarding strategy game. For any terran reading this, please go to some Synystyr-like strategy threads to get a really fun and rewarding builds. It's totally a legit build; if P wants to say 16 nexus every game, there's gotta be a way for T to punish that. There has to be several options even for the early game to put pressure or macro up otherwise the game would be stale in other ways. Pride, your comment was kinda unclear to me, you mean 16 nexus with 2 probe harass would be less effective than just 16 nexusing?
pulling 2 probes just might hurt u more than you think i believe.
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I don't think this build is very optimal for a marine scv all in. It has a comparably low marine count to other marine scv all ins and does not really hit a lot earlier. Scvs are really there to buffer, not to do dmg so pulling an obscene amount (ie so you can't reinforce marines) is not particularly amazing for a marine scv attack.
You did this build once to me and i think i lost like 6 probes and a zealot against all your workers pulled. It didn't feel as threatening as a 1 rax no gas opener then 2 addition rax proxied (which is really what that "3 rax to grand masters thread should be) because at least that disguises the build as a 1 rax no gas fe. I'm much more scared of that with like half of someones workers to buffer and still the other half at home + the mule to allow for constant reinforcement marines.
heres the replay is anyone wants to know how to defend it
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