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On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf.
Again.
Convience vs Fairness.
Sports vs Entertainment.
Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU?
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On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all?
I didn't think that getting accounts to play on was at all the issue; it was/is the delay from play on KR servers. Obviously, Liquid would be in a somewhat better position than other teams if games with them were played on alternating servers because they are already relatively acclimated to playing with the extra latency, while other teams are generally not. In my opinion, it's not asking an unreasonable (there's that word again) amount from Liquid that one of their players in korea play with some latency if they are needed. While it may be somewhat unfair to that player and therefore the team as a whole, that's something that someone is going to have to put up with one way or another, and asking liquid to possibly play one game with extra latency is overall both less work and less unfair to the league as a whole than having everyone else play on korean servers for them.
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Russian Federation949 Posts
If there is something to be said about Korea, but why no switching between EU and NA?
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On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf.
But you are also ignoring all the EU teams... You are playing everything on the US servers.
Do not justify your decision because of the KR server. What about the EU players???
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On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU?
Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there.
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I've no issue with either side, although the pissing contest I could do without.
Both sides have legitimate concerns/issues and both sides are sticking to their guns. Neither side is right or wrong because they have separate goals they're attempting to achieve.
I say blame Blizzard and leave it at that.
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On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU?
Eh it's not just about convenience vs fairness. It is also unfair to make 7 other teams having to practice on KR when there is only one KR team. Under this rule, playing against Liquid means your players have to be able to play on 3 servers. NA EU KR because you don't know who they will send for ace. If its against Ret/TLO, you have to play EU. Tyler - NA. Jinro - KR. Whereas the Liquid players only need to prepare for EU-NA mostly.
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On May 02 2011 13:07 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there.
Actually, IF half the league is european teams, they are already playing on the NA server. SO asking them to play on the NA server against koreans.....doesnt change anything? so..... TL's suggestion effects only the NA players.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf.
Considering the games are not played live (thats what the rules I have received say anyway), I have no idea why you are saying casters would have to play on KR?
Secondly, you are acting like this would affect every other player in the league, which it wont. On average we would probably use something like 1 player from Korea per week, and a high % of that time it would become KR vs EU, which is played on NA regardless.
The "inconvenience" is no different from the inconvenience of Europeans playing on NA.
And you bring up quality of games? Why is that only relevant when you are the one being asked to play on a server where you get worse ping? I could easily make the argument that we will have HIGHER quality of games as both sides will play at least one game completely latency free.
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On May 02 2011 13:02 Liquid`Jinro wrote:I think even the Stars War format is acceptable, where in KR vs China you flip a coin to decide if you play on KR or China servers... Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:01 Justanx wrote:
Jinro you made a thread about lag, and how if you need to play on NA, then you need to practice for lag. Yes, and for Europe vs Korea you have no choice but to play on NA. Plenty of tournaments are too small as well to be expected to accomodate something like this, so play on NA. But this is a teamleague, we have lots of players in Korea, our request is not unreasonable. I REALLY wanted to play this league, but at some point you gotta say no and try to change the accepted way of doing things, because its not fair to join a league at a disadvantage, just because that has been the standard for small online tournaments. A 10k league is not small.
Whilst I totally agree with TL's point of view ultimately it is up to the organizers to accomodate or not accomodate the teams who are playing.
Unfortunately this means we will not see Liquid in this event this time, Maybe in the future we will see them in an event similar so they can show what we have missed out on this time. Which will make the fans want them to be in it and let the discussion go more in their favor.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:07 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there.
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GSL: Offline.
Masters Cup: Online.
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On May 02 2011 13:09 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. Again, not 7 teams. Mouz is european, MYM, Mill, are european. Dignitas as well has many europeans. EU v KR are played on NA. EU v NA are played on NA right now. how would you prepare differently for Jinro isntead of Tyler, if your in europe? You'll play on the same server, or well if TL gets its way, youll get better lag playing Tyler. There suggestion only negatively effects the 3-4 NA teams a bit. Im not saying EG is wrong in rejecting it, as it is their tourny, and it will be awesome none the less. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Eh it's not just about convenience vs fairness. It is also unfair to make 7 other teams having to practice on KR when there is only one KR team. Under this rule, playing against Liquid means your players have to be able to play on 3 servers. NA EU KR because you don't know who they will send for ace. If its against Ret/TLO, you have to play EU. Tyler - NA. Jinro - KR. Whereas the Liquid players only need to prepare for EU-NA mostly.
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On May 02 2011 13:07 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there.
I don't understand what being NA hosted has to do with the format.
This is a Team EG hosted event and they make the rules. Yes.
Can we criticize and or abstain from the competition based on this rules? Yes.
GSL is an entirely "offline" event. You can talk about that if you want - it has nothing to do with this discussion.
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On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU?
Did you even read what Incontrol posted? He literally just explained why it's unreasonable. Why should nearly every single player have to spend time practicing on and getting used to yet another server just to accommodate 1 or 2 players from 1 team? How is that unfair to deny that request? I think EG's decision is fair, and by the way, it's their tournament. Some of the comments in this thread are absurd, people acting as if their view of fairness or what's best is objectively the best route to take.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:06 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? I didn't think that getting accounts to play on was at all the issue; it was/is the delay from play on KR servers. Obviously, Liquid would be in a somewhat better position than other teams if games with them were played on alternating servers because they are already relatively acclimated to playing with the extra latency, while other teams are generally not. In my opinion, it's not asking an unreasonable (there's that word again) amount from Liquid that one of their players in korea play with some latency if they are needed. While it may be somewhat unfair to that player and therefore the team as a whole, that's something that someone is going to have to put up with one way or another, and asking liquid to possibly play one game with extra latency is overall both less work and less unfair to the league as a whole than having everyone else play on korean servers for them.
How do you think we became more acclimatized to it? By being forced into playing in bad conditions in leagues and tournaments - I never practiced on NA, ever- -;
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On May 02 2011 13:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:07 Thermia wrote:On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there. ...... GSL: Offline. Masters Cup: Online.
The point I was making is that players have to make sacrifices that they may or may not be able (or willing) to make to play in the GSL, and the Master's Cup is the same way, regardless of being online or not.
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SOTG discussion on this Tyler vs Incontrol, GO!
So excited.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:13 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 13:07 Thermia wrote:On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Because it's an NA hosted league; you're basically complaining that the GSL is only accessible to people willing/able to move to korea and live/play there. ...... GSL: Offline. Masters Cup: Online. The point I was making is that players have to make sacrifices that they may or may not be able (or willing) to make to play in the GSL, and the Master's Cup is the same way, regardless of being online or not.
The difference is that no matter how hard you try, you cant move Korea to the US, but switching servers is quite easy.
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On May 02 2011 13:09 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:05 StUfF wrote:On May 02 2011 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:On May 02 2011 12:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 02 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:
TSL had a huge population of korean invites (so it makes sense to accommodate koreans/KR server)
EG MC has 1 team with people on the kOR server and even then it isn't their whole team. Excluding Sen EVERY OTHER PLAYER is from NA/EU which has 10x better connection than korea.
Why would the majority (VAST MAJORITY) take a hit to the benefit of TL and it's few players in korea?
A NA team hosts a tourney on the NA server where it's casters/teams are mostly located and TL asks for an unreasonable exception and then slanders EG... not your finest moment Tyler. Unreasonable? Unreasonable to say "We will of course provide our opponents with any accounts on any server required"? How is this unreasonable at all? Yes it is unreasonable to ask 7 teams / casters to play on the KR server so that Huk/Jinro and Haypro can play on their home server. What I said had nothing to do with accounts being offered. It's obviously the latency / quality of the games. You will have MORE disgruntled players if TL gets its way. It's like literally 49 players vs 3... wtf. Again. Convience vs Fairness. Sports vs Entertainment. Why is it unreasonable to ask players to play on KR when you are asking KR players to play NA/EU? Eh it's not just about convenience vs fairness. It is also unfair to make 7 other teams having to practice on KR when there is only one KR team. Under this rule, playing against Liquid means your players have to be able to play on 3 servers. NA EU KR because you don't know who they will send for ace. If its against Ret/TLO, you have to play EU. Tyler - NA. Jinro - KR. Whereas the Liquid players only need to prepare for EU-NA mostly.
Again, not 7 teams. Mouz is european, MYM, Mill, are european. Dignitas as well has many europeans.
EU v KR are played on NA. EU v NA are played on NA right now. how would you prepare differently for Jinro isntead of Tyler, if your in europe? You'll play on the same server, or well if TL gets its way, youll get better lag playing Tyler. There suggestion only negatively effects the 3-4 NA teams a bit.
Im not saying EG is wrong in rejecting it, as it is their tourny, and it will be awesome none the less.
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If there are only three players that would want a home game on the KR server wouldn't it just make sense to abide by the rules currently laid out and not sure if you'd be able to but make it so you only field your players residing in korea vs europeans so its even latency on NA? Watching KR vs NA on kr or na server doesn't provide quality games y0
but yeah potentially in-convening any of the players from 7 other teams to train to get used to KR lag( on the off chance they are forced to KR server) as much as possible for just the three players you could field on KR to me sounds i dont know........... slightly selfish?
Both sides have reasonable points though, but i think for just 3 players out of all the teams in the league being based in korea is a bit too much to ask for ;o
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