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What to do vs mass Thors as Protoss
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Fallingtoss
United States14 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Fallingtoss
United States14 Posts
situation is usually - game is sorta stalemate, i can't attack them they can't attack me. so then they switch to massing thors with their already existing marines I can even usually see them when they switch to massing thors but I know also I can't attack them at least not for a bit, but the longer it goes the morethors they will have. I'm not very good btw ;/. | ||
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Happykola
United Kingdom62 Posts
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
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gamerkhang
United States152 Posts
Chargelot/Immortal is good until they get 250mm cannons, but even then that leaves the thor vulnerable for a bit. Sentries with FF/Hallu would bolster the chargelot/immortal if need be, as each zealot hallu makes 2 zealots and immortal hallu has hardened shields, and can also act as a false target for the 250mm | ||
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BinxyBrown
United States230 Posts
So yeah void ray chargelot with 2 or so sentries is what I suggest. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Rodberd
Germany531 Posts
in general earliear aggression might solve such situations, because due to your pressure he cant build up tons of thors. when you dont feel good with pressure, place some observers in his base (take care of detectors) to see what he is up to. the unit-mix to handle this was already posted, so i just add -> upgrades and expos. try to stop T from getting more bases and upgrade your units. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
See TLO vs Sangho(Killer) Game 1 in GSL Open 2 | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
Maybe a massive use of hallucinations can be effective, I don't see anything else. | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
Templar and Carrier is probably it, because you can kill all the marines with storm so they don't own your interceptors. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:11 KevinIX wrote: Mass immortals. You have to outnumber his thors with immortals. Strike cannon will stun and kill an immortal, but then it get's placed in cooldown. When a thor can't strike cannon, it's falls really quickly to immortals. Thors cost 300/200 and immortals are 250/100, so you should be able to outnumber the thors easily. This is flat out wrong, immortals are awful against thors if both sides are in large numbers. Thors will strike cannon and instant kill 2/3 of your immortals almost immediately, and thors do okay against immortals in a straight up fight, especially with marines mixed in, like the OP said there were. Immortals are good in small engagements, but suck against terran mech in large engagements. Go for air units with chargelots. | ||
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I)etox
1240 Posts
Simple questions like this should be asked here. Also, you're not really supplying any good background information here. "You have no fast way to attack them" is pretty ambiguous. Is he massing thors and thors alone? If it's just thors then you can just use void rays. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
But yeah, chargelots, chargelots, and some more chargelots. | ||
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hellohilo
United States68 Posts
A. Terran goes for a 2 Thor rush into constant thor production Go for a zealot heavy force to defend the rush, since sentries are useless and stalks aren't that good against thors when they're being repaired. After you expand, make sure to get charge since it helps out zeals so much. Robo tech is okay, but if you see him starting to get siege tanks then add a stargate. Basically try to keep a higher economy then he can, since he can't move around that much. B. Terran transitions into a thor mix. Honestly, there's no way a terran can just say "OKAY I'M GOING MASS THOR LOL." You'll be able to just kill him much earlier than he can push. I'm going to guess that your macro isn't the best, given your low post count and extremely general question, so in this case focus on outmacroing and outexpanding him. Try to get a good mix of units, though not as many stalkers as normal. Also, if you read it fairly early, add a stargate and start building void rays. Make sure to keep producing out of your gates/robo/stargate, and if you outexpand him you should max faster and be okay. C. Some other problem. So...say he like...insta-remaxes on thors after a big battle or something crazy like that. Assuming this is the lategame, you should have all your tech up and a good gateway count. Go for mainly zealots out of your gates, and carriers out of the stargates. MAKE SURE TO UPGRADE!!!!! Thors can only shoot one target, but you can have 5 zealots attacking a thor at once. Basically, your problem isn't really with mass thors. It's that you don't have a good idea of how to play lategame protoss or your macro isn't good enough to keep up with whoever is building all dem thors. So go play some custom games, find an opener you like, then practice transitioning out of it a bunch. When you go back to laddering you should feel a lot more comfortable. | ||
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redwingxviii
United States101 Posts
because of that issue, i think you should go VR / HT. void rays do very well against thors, and if you can place a few storms on the marines, you'll be in good shape. Chargelots, from my experience, aren't as effective as VR / HT. | ||
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
Fix your post befor you get banned/warned for abusing and misusing this forum. | ||
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Kornholi0
Canada634 Posts
As protoss you should punish the terran in the fact that his bases will be completely defended by static D (really slow army = static D). If he doesn't have static D at his bases you can just kill them with your faster units. I suggest warpprisms. Other than that just make sure his economy can never get at a huge stability (3 bases+) in which to support thors and you are golden. The #1 way to beat mass thor as protoss is to get carriers, mass chargelot carrier will decimate thor armies, as long as you don't clump all oyur carriers in a nice 2x2 square you'll be fine. If you are letting him take 3 bases for thors you should have half the map, his really slow and powerful army can't possibly handle expansions you are taking. A replay would be nice. | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
Mass Carrier/Mothership/Chargelot would work.  | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113479 Read both of these | ||
Chill
Calgary25986 Posts
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