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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 03:14:09
April 08 2011 02:11 GMT
#1
You may or may not have seen the purge thread. You may or may not have read the Stickied threads. You may or may not have seen the various awesome guides on TL for improving your gameplay. Hell, you may not even know about the search function. If you haven't read all of these, read them NOW:

Purge: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208101
Strategy Forum Guidelines: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113479
Simply Questions Simple Answers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187808
How to Analyze Replays: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195389
Recommended Threads: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192233
How to Improve: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
Search Function: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php
Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Main_Page

The bottom line is: I've been moderating the Strategy Forum pretty diligently for the past week and I'm getting sick of it. There's a huge difference between where the Strategy Forum is at right now and where we want it to be. No more warnings, no more closures with friendly explanations.

For those of you posting threads:
  • If you don't properly tag your thread, your thread will be CLOSED.
  • If it's clear to me you haven't read one of the threads linked above, you will be BANNED.

For those of you posting [H]/[L] threads:
  • If you do not post a replay, you will be BANNED.
  • If you do not attempt to analyze your game, you will be BANNED.
  • If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve. Basically, this is if I feel you are being lazy and having others do work for you when you have put in minimal effort yourself.

For those of you posting [Q] threads:
  • If I can find the answer to your thread using the search function, you will be BANNED.
  • If I can answer your thread in a few sentences, you will be BANNED (Hint: Simple Questions Simple Answers thread).

For those of you posting [G] threads:
  • If I feel it sucks, it will be CLOSED.
  • If I feel it doesn't contain enough information, it will be CLOSED.
  • If the guide doesn't apply to a high enough level, it will be CLOSED. Why? Because we have quality standards at TL. The Strategy Forum is for helping people be the best they can be. If you have a fun build you want to write a guide about, blog it or post it on the B.net forums.

For those of you posting [D]/[I] threads:
  • If I can find another ongoing discussion on the same topic, you will be BANNED.
  • If you're posting an [I] thread, if it's clear you haven't tried your idea before posting about it, you will be BANNED.
  • If you talk about imbalance or make balance suggestions, you will be BANNED. We're not here to change the game - that's Blizzard's job (or take it to SC2 General if you must). We're here to do the best with what we have.
  • If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.
  • If your thread doesn't apply at a high enough level, it will be CLOSED.

For those of you responding to threads:
  • If you say anything about imbalance, you will be BANNED.
  • If you give incorrect advice, you will be SHOT DOWN. If you aren't sure whether or not you should be giving advice, then don't. That doesn't mean don't give advice if you're not masters. But anyone (masters included) giving advice better be pretty damn sure of their advice before they give it.
  • If you give unhelpful advice, you will be BANNED.
  • If your post pisses me off or is just inappropriate, you will be BANNED.
  • If you argue with a highlighted user/known player without good reason, you will be BANNED. Why? It's a privilege to have these guys posting advice here. They don't gain anything from giving you advice, and treating them with anything less than the respect they deserve only chases them away. So ask yourself this: do you really want pros posting in your threads? If so, be respectful. If not, you probably don't belong here. But fear not, there are plenty of other strategy forums you could be posting in.

Everything else is up to my discretion.

Questions? (read this because I'm not going to respond to questions)
The reason we have such strict moderation is we want people in this community to be self-sufficient, not dependent on others, and we want to keep discussion in the Strategy Forum at the highest level. That means quality guides, meaningful discussion about new builds and strategies, and asking for help only as a a last resort (but giving beneficial responses to any help threads). Being able to help yourself is key to becoming a better player, and it also, it reduces clutter in the Strategy Forum. Think about what your ideal Strategy Forum would look like. What would you rather see on the sidebar:
[H] 6 pool
[Q] How do I stop 4gate?
[D] Void ray balance changes
help me idk what i'm doing wrong
I don't feel like tagging my help threads but help anyways (Replay included)

OR
[G] ZvP 3 Gate Expand
[D] Stargate versus Robo play in PvZ
[G] How to Improve
[G] Basic Openings/Timings
Chrono Boost Math

If you don't feel your thread deserves to be on the sidebar, don't post it. If I don't feel your thread deserves to be on the sidebar, it won't be there.

NOTE: All bans will be temporary Strategy Forum bans. Feel free to PM me about bans/thread closures.
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 02:14:02
April 08 2011 02:13 GMT
#2
+1 Its about time. Here's to hoping strategy forum will have more strategy <cheers>
griffith.583 (NA)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 08 2011 02:18 GMT
#3
damn saracen layin down the law.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
April 08 2011 02:21 GMT
#4
it's like almost every post will get banned. maybe ths will get me banned too lol.
xd
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
April 08 2011 02:21 GMT
#5
Can we get a sticky of the recommended threads thread? It makes it much easier to get to, and I think it probably deserves a sticky. Good Work, though. Thanks to all the mods for all their work trying to maintain quality control. <3
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 08 2011 02:22 GMT
#6
Loveing this post! Yahh more strats in the strat forum wahh?
if you can believe you can concieve
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 08 2011 02:23 GMT
#7
On April 08 2011 11:21 ElusoryX wrote:
it's like almost every useless post will get banned. maybe ths will get me banned too lol.

Fixed.
It's pretty simple - if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say it.
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
April 08 2011 02:25 GMT
#8
Nice! Finally some stricter rules.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 08 2011 02:27 GMT
#9
I like how it's mandatory to read my thread on improving :D
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 02:33:28
April 08 2011 02:32 GMT
#10
You don't know how much i <3 you right now. I seriously sick with all the emotional crap threads about motivation to play and stuff. Oh yeah and the infamous "How to Deal with" threads. Seriously guys grow some balls+ Show Spoiler +
and girls you can grow some balls too
.

I've also been pretty irritated at the surge of crap builds, and people naming themselves after everything as if it were that revolutionary. Seiously do you we really need a build on how to 1 base BC rush? Then you have the audacity to name it after yourself as if your worth something? Bisu gets a build named after him because it was game changing, revolutionary. So did Flash and Fantasy. You want a build named after you make a build thats game breaking and revolutionary. Then win a major tourney convincingly.

Its about time. Thank You
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 08 2011 02:33 GMT
#11
-__- I'm seriously afraid of opening a thread now. But its exactly what Teamliquid should be like. People that put thought into their post, not some brainless retards who can't follow plain rules.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 08 2011 02:34 GMT
#12
I'm a little bit uneasy with the idea of banning people for being wrong, but I get why these measures are necessary. Godspeed, Saracen.
pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
April 08 2011 02:35 GMT
#13
What a relief. Glad the moderation is getting even stricter.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 08 2011 02:35 GMT
#14
Lol now im terrified to post in the strat forum.
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
April 08 2011 02:35 GMT
#15

If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve.


By far the best ban reason in the thread. I hate reading 5 threads about "why did I lose this?" when the answer is clearly macro.
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 08 2011 02:36 GMT
#16
On April 08 2011 11:35 redFF wrote:
Lol now im terrified to post in the strat forum.

Excellent
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 08 2011 02:45 GMT
#17
I hope the strat forum can come out of this stronger and better than ever, thanks for such an enormous undertaking.
Balor
Profile Joined April 2010
United States147 Posts
April 08 2011 02:45 GMT
#18
Really liking this direction TL is taking.

I use to use the strategy forum and browse it everyday when I was silver/gold, now that Im high masters I havent been able to look at it without cringeing.

Saracen fighting!
(your actually in my division 0.o)
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 02:58:17
April 08 2011 02:50 GMT
#19
If your thread is about a new strategy and you do not have a damn good analysis (with replays) (i.e. I think your thread is too theorycrafty), you can play against me in a BO3 with your strategy. If you lose, you will be BANNED.


by far the best rule. but because of you saracen, i might read the strategy forum again! cheers!

edit: also it should be streamed
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 08 2011 02:52 GMT
#20
I completely disagree with macro being the only thing necessary to get to a high level.

Maybe in some matchups, but in volatile matchups like TvZ (both sides) only macroing and never looking at your army will get you a quick loss. Making the wrong unit comp will get you a quick loss. Not knowing the proper response to all common cheeses will get you many losses.

So my response to:

If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED (Hint: read the Analyzing Replays thread and the How to Improve thread). Why? Because if you care enough about your gameplay to clutter up the Strategy Forum with another [H] thread, then you care enough to spend time by yourself to actually improve.


is that it takes time to improve macro and micro, and some people would actually like to win games while improving.
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